Feedback

[Lois Gilbert]

so

do you want private messages?
do you want to be notified by email of new messages on threads
do you want to see how many people viewed a thread
what other forums do you want me to open?

what else?

[graypencil]

Originally posted by Lois Gilbert
so

do you want private messages?
do you want to be notified by email of new messages on threads
do you want to see how many people viewed a thread
what other forums do you want me to open?

what else?


Can I get an order of Steak Diane, with a Caesar Salad, and a Nice Cabernet?


..delivered around , say .. 10 PM ?? :)

[moneyp]

Originally posted by Lois Gilbert

do you want private messages?

Okay by me. The option to select or deselect is available as desired.

do you want to be notified by email of new messages on threads

Heck no.

do you want to see how many people viewed a thread

Cool by me.

what other forums do you want me to open?

How about a Trading Post?

what else?

No images!!!

http://www.tomatonation.com/MEDIA/glovcomp.jpg

See? This is what you get. Guitar players at Starbucks.

[moneyp]

Hey, and allow us to edit our posts for more than two minutes afterward! That blows!

[Uli]

And thanks for letting us add members to our ignore list.

[BFrank]

Considering that everyone is using this software, Lois, see what you can do to make it look different.

The blue scroll bar is a start.

[Sergio Zamora]

How about toning down those colors a bit? That dominating dark blue is a little too much for my eyes.

Right now, I can't think of any other forums I'd want. I'm going to recommend we don't go crazy asking for other forums. Too many can be overkill.

How about having avatar thingies?

Oh, and the 2 min for editing thingy - that's no good.

[BFrank]

Whoa! What's up with the 2 minute limit on edits?


Also, I think there are too many levels here. For example, to get to this thread you have to go through:
Jazzcorner's Speakeasy > SPEAK OUT > Speakout > Feedback

I think it could use one less "speakout"

+++

Editing.....editing........editing - - - - - - - - - testing......

[moneyp]

No avatars, no pictures, and no f'in SMILIES!!!!

[Lois Gilbert]

B Frank

I think you're right that we can skip one level. Let me figure out how to do that?
I'll still working on the time?

Speaking of which

where do you see 2 min editing time

[Ron Thorne]

Originally posted by Lois Gilbert
so

do you want private messages?
do you want to be notified by email of new messages on threads
do you want to see how many people viewed a thread
what other forums do you want me to open?

what else?

· Private messages are cool with me, but not essential.
· I don't need any more e-mail messages, thank you!
· Seeing the number of views of threads could be interesting.
· I'm reserving my request(s) for new forums for a later date.

· Ditto "what else?"

Since I haven't attempted editing one of my posts since this new software was activated, I can only surmise that there's either something amiss or adjustable with respect to elapsed time to edit, based upon Moné's comment. As far as I'm concerned, there should be NO limitation as to when you can edit a post. I may try here, just for grins.

Hey Lois, why did this new software indicate 0 posts after my very first post on this new software? Shouldn't it have shown one (1)? Just curious. It's my nature. :-)

[moneyp]

Originally posted by Lois Gilbert

where do you see 2 min editing time

When I tried to edit a post, it said that the Administrator placed an editing time of two minutes.

Like so:

"The administrator has specified that you can only edit messages for 2 minutes after you have posted. This limit has expired, so you must contact the administrator to make alterations on your message."

Glad to know it's apparently a mistake.

[Lois Gilbert]

Originally posted by mone peterson
When I tried to edit a post, it said that the Administrator placed an editing time of two minutes.

Like so:

"The administrator has specified that you can only edit messages for 2 minutes after you have posted. This limit has expired, so you must contact the administrator to make alterations on your message."

Glad to know it's apparently a mistake.

JUST FIXED IT PLEASE TRY

[Ron Thorne]

Lois-

Since I wasn't able to edit my last post within the allotted two minutes, for your information, here's what I added:

Edit: Lois, thanks a million for being hip enough and aware enough to eliminate that childish Junior Member/Member/Senior Member crap within the software!

It will take me some time to figure out how to properly use the http:// and vB Code benefits, but I WILL, trust me!

Lois, I demand to know why I still have no credit for my first two posts on this new board. :-) I'm still a zero. I think I'm gonna cry and resign myself to being a JC "old school wannabee".

Wait a minute. How does Moné have seven (7) posts and I have none? Huh?

[BFrank]

OK. Lois - it seems to work now. I edited my post of about 1/2 hour ago.
+++
"Hey Lois, why did this new software indicate 0 posts after my very first post on this new software? Shouldn't it have shown one (1)?"
>>> Ron - that seems to be a quirk of this software. It works the same way everywhere else, too.

===

EDIT - nevermind, Ron. I see what you're talking about. Yeah, the "# of posts" function doesn't seem to be activated.

[moneyp]

Originally posted by Lois Gilbert
JUST FIXED IT PLEASE TRY

It works. Have I told you that I love you?

[Lois Gilbert]

I'm getting this a little -- the reason we need SPEAK OUT > Speakout> Thread Title is because

SPEAK OUT is the Category
Speakout is the forum


Tomorrow I'll look into figure out how to get rid of the replication. The time is still not working right.


BUT WE'RE GETTING THERE! I'm kind of excited!

THANK YOU ALL

[moneyp]

Lois, ya just got this thing up and running, so we understand there are going to be hiccups getting it to where it's perfect. I've been there.

Thanks for doing this.

[BFrank]

Yeah - definitely getting there.

I like this "seat of the pants" launch.

Good luck Lois - quite a project, for sure.

[Ron Thorne]

BFrank-

Thanks for your input.

Apparently, Lois is "burning the midnight oil" once again, making additions, corrections and deletions where necessary. My hat's off to you, young lady!

This is exciting! While we've all become comfortable with and accustomed to a certain look, flow and style on the "old board", I'm confident that we can adapt and flourish with what appears to be a far more flexible, stable, faster software now supporting one of our favorite websites.

Ok, I've been dying to try an attachment, so here's a photo I took in November when Patti and I were in Hawaii. It's a well-timed sunset shot, just offshore from Waikiki while onboard a catamaran.

[Tom Storer]

I think the features you mentioned are pretty cool, Lois. I like the private message thing. It will prevent all the messages that read "Hey, I tried emailing you but your address doesn't work!"

Ron, the difference between this board and the original is that the original showed number of *posts* and this one shows number of *replies.* So when you've created a thread, it shows 0 replies until the second post - the first reply - appears.

Lois, I have a suggestion for one more forum - one for site-related feedback. That way these posts won't get lost in the hustle and bustle of Speakeasy.

One final thing - the "time offset" option in user preferences doesn't seem to work. I set mine to Paris time but at the bottom it still says "All times are EST +1 hour. The time now is 01:10 PM." And in fact it's now 9:10 AM Paris time, so EST+1 ought to be 2:10 *AM*, no?

[Ron Thorne]

Originally posted by Tom Storer

Ron, the difference between this board and the original is that the original showed number of *posts* and this one shows number of *replies.* So when you've created a thread, it shows 0 replies until the second post - the first reply - appears.



With all due respect, Tom, I don't agree. I have yet to create a thread of my own subject on this new board, have responded with several posts (8-10), yet I just recently noticed that I've only been credited with two posts. I've replied to many posts while being credited with virtually none. It's not an issue with me, except that it's confusing.

[Lois Gilbert]

Tom Storer suggested creating another place just for feedback and suggestions on the new Speakeasy so I'm going to attempt to move feedback from Speakout over here

[Lois Gilbert]

it needs to wait till tomorrow. Can't figure it out yet

[mke]

Originally posted by Lois Gilbert
so

do you want private messages?
do you want to be notified by email of new messages on threads
do you want to see how many people viewed a thread
what other forums do you want me to open?

what else?


Private messages: YES

E-mail notification: NO, but that's user-defined anyway, isn't it? Maybe some people will want that.

Number of thread views: DEFINITELY YES!!! I think it gives a more accurate reflection of forum usage than simply the number of posts.

Other forums: Please don't add too many.

As Omar said, I find the blue bars clutter up the screen. Please find something clearer.

I would change the style sheet so that the buttons on the post reply screen look more "natural" and are prettier. The standard grey button look is pretty ugly.

I think the ability to add images is cool, but of course it's up to posters to use their common sense. I like Ron's picture a lot!

As for the multiple levels of navigation, why not put all the forums in one category called "Speakeasy"?

Finally, I find that those rapidly flashing intermediate screens confusing. You don't have time to read what's written. Either get rid of them, or actually give us time to read them.

[Ron Thorne]

Lois, some sleep might be hip. :-)

Goodnight, and sweet dreams.

[Tom Storer]

Lois, you're a hero.

Let us know when the archives from the original Jazz Corner are available from this new site.

[Tom Storer]

Originally posted by Ron Thorne
With all due respect, Tom, I don't agree. [...] I've replied to many posts while being credited with virtually none. It's not an issue with me, except that it's confusing.

Oh, right. I misunderstood the issue you were talking about. Sorry.

[hermann]

Hey, it looks like a lot of features to learn ( for me ). The outfit is interesting, so here are my congratulations from Germany.

Lois, I found my JazzCare-CDs last christmas, my wife had hidden them since 2001.

[Gary Delligatti]

Well, Well, Well,
Just look at da joint now! Really something eh? Uh-I feel like I should be postin' with a black tie on!

Very nice indeed, your efforts and hard work truely do shine here.

Thanks

Gary D

[Kevin Bresnahan]

Hey, where are the "smileys"?? I thought I'd finally be able to post with smileys on the Speak instead of :>)

I do agree that avatars suck... especially when some people make them moving pictures... one of the posters over on All About Jazz's forum made it a cartoon woman with "jiggles". Really annoying.

Later,
Kevin

[Kevin Bresnahan]

Oh, and btw, I think Ron's right. The post counter seems to be turned off.

Later,
Kevin

[Dr Dave]

It does look good. I find the extra options a bit intimidating at the moment, but I'll get over that, I'm sure.

[Al in NYC]

I think Lois, or someone, should clearly post the information that everyone needs to register again, and give some sort of guide to the registration process. It caught me off-guard at first that I had to re-register, and the process itself was a bit cumbersome and may be slightly confusing to some.

Petty complaints aside though, the new board looks great, and, having posted on these types of boards before, I'm sure people will find that it functions much better than the old board. Still, I'll miss the red...

[Tom Storer]

Originally posted by Al in NYC
Still, I'll miss the red...

Red? What red? I didn't see any red in the old board.

[mke]

Will there be board moderators?

I can see the political struggles now...

The way the formatting buttons work (especially the select boxes... ugh) is quite impractical. Is there any way to change that?

There are edit buttons underneath each post. Obviously, if you click on someone else's post, you are told you aren't allowed to edit it, but surely it would be better to just get rid of the useless buttons altogether.

Originally posted by Tom Storer
Red? What red? I didn't see any red in the old board.
Have you been reading JC with your eyes closed? :)

The buttons under each post were red.

[Chuck Nessa]

The site looks nice.

[Sand]

You won't need broadband to access this. Very nice. Thanks.

[Brian Olewnick]

So I've been messing around with the site for about a 1/2 hour here at work and I'm already getting kinda used to it. I edited a post and it worked, noticed the erroneous post count (annoying to see mone stuck up at the top of that pile!). Interesting that it lists the names of the posters at the top of each forum. I've seen a max of four--is there a limit to this? Ron's photo looks very cool.

I'd also vote against avatars. Be nice if you could customize background colors; I have an old-fashioned preference for black on white.

But, hey, it seems to work fine. Happy to be here.

[SinginSumo]

The new look is gorgeous!

Why is EST time now posting 5 hours before the actual time?

[ADR]

Lois:

The new site looks great. Big improvement over the old BBS - thanks.

ADR

[Armando]

Looking real good so far.

I've only come across one glitch. When I tried to stay logged in with cookies (yes, I have cookies turned on in my browser) I had to keep logging in each time I tried to post or view my profile, etc.

So instead, I set the option to keep the session in the URL and it has worked just fine at keeping me logged in.

FYI.

[Canuck Don]

[FONT=times new roman][SIZE=1][FONT=arial][COLOR=skyblue]

Very nice. I like what I see so far.I tip my mug of herbal tea to Lady Lois and her staff for their time and effort in putting this all to-gether.

[SinginSumo]

Originally posted by Lois Gilbert
so

do you want private messages?
do you want to be notified by email of new messages on threads
do you want to see how many people viewed a thread
what other forums do you want me to open?

what else?

Private messages?: WOW! Great!!
E-mail notification?: No (changed my mind on this)
How many viewed?: Another enthusiastic YES

**************************************************

The listed EST time is running 5 hours before the actual EST time.

(I have returned a few hours later to find that my actual time is now corrected.)

**************************************************

MAJOR thumbs up to these photos!

[Chris A]

Originally posted by Lois Gilbert
so

do you want private messages?
do you want to be notified by email of new messages on threads
do you want to see how many people viewed a thread
what other forums do you want me to open?

what else?

Yes to all of that plus images, bolds and itals. Avatars? Yes or No to them.

Love the fact that one can bring up new posts--saves a lot of time looking around.

Thanks, again, Lois--great improvement to a Board we already love.

[BILL KRIEGER]

Thanks, Lois.

[Tanager]

I may be wrong, but I think the timestamps are off - the board preferences/signup page says that timestamps are in GMT and requests that you select your timezone offset...but now (9:50 AM ET) my postings are showing up as being at about 4:50 AM. Not a huge deal, but kinda confusing.

[Valerie]

Mucho congrats, Lois!! You have truly improved our beloved JazzCorner!! Thank you so much for all your hard work. And to think that you're a mother too (no pun intended)!!

xoxoxoxo

[Tom Storer]

Originally posted by mke
Have you been reading JC with your eyes closed? :)

The buttons under each post were red.

Oh... right. I never noticed that.

I'm not great with visual stuff.

[Jazzooo]

What a great start, Lois! Fast and slick.

Chris, where did you see that you can bring up only new posts?

I like making those things Lois asked about user-selectable.

I'm not sure why, when we're simply responding to a post in a thread, we're asked to "post subject." I know it's optional, but...

[Chris A]

Originally posted by Jazzooo
What a great start, Lois! Fast and slick.

Chris, where did you see that you can bring up only new posts?



Doug, when you first sign on, look towards the upper right hand of your screen.

[SinginSumo]

Please restore (enable) private messaging.

[Tom Storer]

I second SinginSumo: private messaging is disabled, but it's a neat feature! Can we have it? Can we, can we, pleeeeeaaase Lois??

Originally posted by Jazzooo
I'm not sure why, when we're simply responding to a post in a thread, we're asked to "post subject." I know it's optional, but...

I just ignore the "Post Subject" line when replying. But you've piqued my curiosity... what happens when you change it? I'll give it a try!

Edit: Oh. It just puts the modified subject at the top of your post in bold, like a little title. I'll keep ignoring it.

[SinginSumo]

By the way, WHERE are Fred K and squaredancecaller???

What is the key to the meanings of those little envelope icons?

[Sergio Zamora]

I should add that even though I suggested avatars, I probably wouldn't use them.

[Jazzooo]

The "read first unread post" turns out to be in my upper left hand corner, Chris--maybe it's on the right on a Mac? Anyway, thanks!

It doesn't really go to the "first unread post" for me--this time it went to the last unread post and then I just scrolled up to the first one. I wonder what will happen when there have been 30 or 40 unread posts...

Can't get over how much FASTER this board is moving. Excellent.

One suggestion: I liked the convenience of having the various board options (Alley, Reviews, etc) at the top of the screen as opposed to the very bottom. Anyone else?

[graypencil]

Originally posted by Uli
And thanks for letting us add members to our ignore list. What Ignore list??? I didn't see that feature ..

[Kevin Bresnahan]

Lois, why are smilies disabled? That seems odd. After all, they're just graphical pictures of time-honored internet "emoticons".

Later,
Kevin

[Uli]

Originally posted by graypencil
What Ignore list??? I didn't see that feature ..

Grey,
look up a member's profile. At the bottom of it you have buddy/ignore options.

http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/tales/frankie.gif

[Brian Olewnick]

Anyone else find it weird to see the list of people browsing a given forum? Odd kind of intimacy. A couple of times, I found myself alone with Uli and had to restrain myself from leaning over and giving him a peck on the cheek.

[elizabethbrion]

Originally posted by Brian Olewnick
Anyone else find it weird to see the list of people browsing a given forum? Odd kind of intimacy.

What's really odd to me is when you go to the "who's online" screen and it tells you exactly what everyone's doing - which thread they're reading, if they're sending an email, etc. I'm not entirely sure what I think of that!

Other than that, thumbs up on the new format so far... it's fast, everything seems to work, Safari can read all the buttons... good stuff. I'll probably be around a lot more now.

[Uli]

Originally posted by Brian Olewnick
Anyone else find it weird to see the list of people browsing a given forum? Odd kind of intimacy. A couple of times, I found myself alone with Uli and had to restrain myself from leaning over and giving him a peck on the cheek.

http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/tales/frankie.gif

[Brian Olewnick]

LOL!

[mjb]

Is it possible to post pictures from elsewhere other than the web - i.e. from one's pc?

I don't understand how similes could be prohibited.

[Brian Olewnick]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by elizabethbrion
[B]What's really odd to me is when you go to the "who's online" screen and it tells you exactly what everyone's doing - which thread they're reading, if they're sending an email, etc. I'm not entirely sure what I think of that!

Where is that? I know I stumbled upon it this morning but can't relocate it.

[Found it. Oddly, it currently lists on one else on-line. And when I visit a forum, I'm the only one there. Spooky!]

[moneyp]

Originally posted by mjb
Is it possible to post pictures from elsewhere other than the web - i.e. from one's pc?

I don't understand how similes could be prohibited.

Smilies suck.

You can post images using the "IMG" button in your posting features. I'm hoping Lois removes that as well.

[mjb]

Originally posted by mone peterson
Smilies suck.



Agreed. I go one further and suggest all emoticons suck. The word "emoticon" sucks.

Similes can be cool though.

IMG does not work ...

[moneyp]

Whoops. Sorry, I meant "Attach File" like so.

[Gary Sisco]

do you want private messages?

Why? What's wrong with just sending an email?

do you want to be notified by email of new messages on threads

No. I get too much junk in my box already. I can see for myself if anyone has posted to a thread.

do you want to see how many people viewed a thread

Yes. I think that's an excellent feature.

what other forums do you want me to open?

All of the forums that were on the old bbs and two new ones: a.g. and eai.

[Martin]

Hello to everybody,

just wanted to check if I ran thru the registration procedure correctly... Obviously I did!

[Uli]

http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/knuddel.gif I like smilieshttp://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/knuddel.gif

[moneyp]

Lois, please restrict Uli's ability to post GIFs.

[Uli]

Lois, please put mone on your ignore list.

[Chris Castelle]

Here I am, posting under my actual name for once. No specific comments on the site from me; I'm just glad that it works.

BTW, here's an image of me which maybe I'll add to my sig:http://www.nyopinion.com/writers/chris.JPG

[moneyp]

Lois, please report Uli's last message to yourself. It was uncalled for.

There are some people griping on the old board that the character name limit isn't long enough. We need our Jesus Marion Joseph!

[Elliot]

Glad to be here. For months, I couldn't get the old Speakeasy to accept my posts.

[Nathaniel Catchpole]

Don't like the dark blue on the scroll bars - could it not be the two shades of grey that are used for posts - very easy on the eye.

If possible, it would be great if no-one could have a signature - biggest waste of bandwith ever invented - lots of wasted time, and no more xxxx, baby - it would just be the same thing all the time.

Only been on for 10 minutes. Seems pretty good. Private messaging makes sense, since people could avoid giving personal e-mail, and it saves problems with updating, as long as it doesn't invite trollish behaviour.

Trading post forum sounds good.

Not a big fan of graphic smileys, but less annoying than auto-signatures, could get used to them maybe.

Seems good so far, pretty smooth running.

[Nathaniel Catchpole]

I have admin options on the bottom of my screen - could these be removed? It would be great to have an omnipresent "back to index button" on the screen somewhere, although I might find it yet. Like it so far.

[Kevin Bresnahan]

Originally posted by Nathaniel Catchpole

If possible, it would be great if no-one could have a signature - biggest waste of bandwith ever invented - lots of wasted time, and no more xxxx, baby - it would just be the same thing all the time.


Nathaniel, you can choose to not have people's signature's displayed. It's an option in your preferences. Ditto for avatars (although Lois has them turned off anyway).

BTW, am I the only one who's "View New Posts" button stopped working? That is one feature that I really need here! :)

Later,
Kevin

[Chris A]

Kevin, my View New Posts button has also ceased working. A temporary thing, I hope.

BTW I agree with Catch, the signature things is clutter.

[Sergio Zamora]

Originally posted by mjb
I don't understand how similes could be prohibited.

Sorry, only metaphors.

[Nathaniel Catchpole]

Thanks, switched them off. With the apparent amount of customisation, I don't forsee having any major complaints, although the message saying your message is being posted seems a bit unnecessary, and still don't like the dark blue.

[catesta]

http://drake.marin.k12.ca.us/students/schoenwaldg/swing/care.gif

[catesta]

Why is the image code off on the other forums?

[jazzfiend]

Lois, this new board looks fine, feels great, and moves QUICKLY.

No problems to report yet.



....the poster formerly known as dononjazz

[moneyp]

I miss the name "dononjazz."

[Lois Gilbert]

Private Messaging will be turned on, but

NO SMILEYS. I DRAW THE ____________
AT SMILEYS.

Thanks for all the good feedback

Oh and I did put a limit on size of images no more than 42k or 400 x 400

I'm wondering if when we took out the categories (to avoid redundancy if that's why the go to newest post isn't working...I'll check it out.....

Meanwhile, if you want to email folks and give them this url - we welcome them to come on in

[Alain]

Lois,

Very good idea to give up the sluggish cfm forums and to use vbulletin!

Long live Speakeasy!

[moneyp]

Originally posted by Lois Gilbert
NO SMILEYS. I DRAW THE ____________
AT SMILEYS.

Hail!

[SinginSumo]

I'd like to see posts numbered in ascending order from earliest to latest for each thread.

[Chuck Nessa]

I keep getting emails when someone posts to this thread in spite of disabling this function 2 times.

[moneyp]

Chuck, disable it in your preferences.

[mke]

The time of last visit is updated all the time, which eliminates the possibility of using the "new posts" function, arguably the single most useful function around.

[Chaney]

Originally posted by Lois Gilbert
Private Messaging will be turned on, but

NO SMILEYS. I DRAW THE ____________
AT SMILEYS.

...

Very wise.

http://www.gamers-forums.com/smilies/contrib/blackeye/Smilecrunch.gif

[graypencil]

Since I'm basically a cyberdummie, can someone explain how to post jpg files on a iMac ..as an attachmets ??

I tries twice and keep screwing up ..


: confused

[moneyp]

Originally posted by graypencil
Since I'm basically a cyberdummie, can someone explain how to post jpg files on a iMac ..as an attachmets ??

I tries twice and keep screwing up ..


: confused

GP, since Mac doesn't require file extensions, make sure that the files end with ".jpg"

[Chris A]

Originally posted by graypencil
Since I'm basically a cyberdummie, can someone explain how to post jpg files on a iMac ..as an attachmets ??

Are you tryng to attach these files to e-mail? If so, are you sending them to someone with a PC?

I find that some PC people can't receive my jpg attachments unless I send them as a zip file. If you have StuffIt, you can use it to create a zip file, otherwise, just go to versiontracker.com, type zip or ZipIt into search and download this little file.

[moneyp]

Chris, I think he's trying to post pics to the bbs.

This BBS requires file extensions to post:

"Valid file extensions: gif jpg png txt zip bmp jpeg"

[Chris A]

Thanks, Moné, but does the bbs not also require that you post from a URL?

[moneyp]

Originally posted by Chris A
Thanks, Moné, but does the bbs not also require that you post from a URL?

No, at the bottom of the posting screen there's an option to attach files.

[tippy]

Wow, Lois. You've outdone yourself. Well done. Lots of really neat features. It will take me a long time to investigate all of them. I might even learn something. And it loads much faster.

I have to admit that I like the look of the old site better--miss the orange buttons--but I think this format reduces the power of the text, it's not so stark and almighty, and I think that's a good thing among us impassioned folk. :)

[moneyp]

Lois, no more HTML? Say it ain't so!

[tippy]

Lois, this software has pretty detailed tracking. Someone ought to recommend it to the CIA to boost their performance.

[Lois Gilbert]

Mone

Html code is on look at the bottom

[Ron Thorne]

Lois-

I have a couple of questions and suggestions:

Questions:

1. What is the purpose of subscribing to a thread, and why should we ... or not?

2. Will we always have the option of the order in which the posts are displayed within a given thread? In other words, in ascending or descending order. That seems to have come and gone, then reappeared. Perhaps you're still experimenting.

Suggestions:

1. Would it be possible to have both a Forum Jump: on the top and bottom of each page like on the "old" JC?

2. Experimenting with various colors for the horizontal bars might yield something more pleasant and offer some variation for everyone. Also, it's been shown in many studies that a minty-green background is very soothing. The author of the following site, ( a web designer) suggests avoiding gray backgrounds. Here's a link for some very useful info, including a look at that minty-green background color.

http://www.dsiegel.com/tips/wonk2/background.html

3. Is there a way to number posts with the new software? It's often very useful to refer to a specific post by number.

[bluenoter]

1. Please don't hate me, Ron, but I for one don't want a minty-green background!

2. I too would like to know more about the "subscribe" function.

3. I started a "Post Test Messages Here" thread, but it was deleted. Lois, do you plan to start a similar thread? Earlier today y'all seemed to be experimenting with one.

4. Ron asked, "Is there a way to number posts with the new software? It's often very useful to refer to a specific post by number."

Yes, it is, but it seems to me that numbered posts and the ability to sort posts by ascending or descending order of posting don't mix. I guess our present option is to cite posts by the poster, date, and time, which I guess will be okay once we get used to it.

[Chris A]

Here's another vote against minty green.

The current dark/stark blue is worse, however, IMO.

[tippy]

Well, I guess you're choice is not popular, but just so you know, Ron, my Windows are set in minty green. I love minty. I love green. Actually the blue and green together looks pretty but the blue is too intense for my eyes I think.

How about a soft pumpkin shade, it's cozy, inviting and stimulates the brain?

Maybe we should consult Martha.

[Ron Thorne]

Sorry folks, I'm not trying to start a color preference war. :-) Of course I don't "hate" you for speaking up and stating your opinion bluenoter.

Chris, I wasn't talking about the separators and surrounds, only the background color, i.e., where the gray is now.

Have either of you actually visited the site whose link I provided and looked at the color "minty-green", or is this a knee jerk reaction to a color name which just sounds putrid? Some colors simply work better to increase readability, reduce eye strain, etc.
The author is pretty damn savvy, in my estimation, at least.

Whether posts are in ascending or descending order, there's still a logical, inescapable order of posting. In other words, the thread creator's post will be #1, the next one #2 ... no matter how you view it. Dig?

[Lois Gilbert]

With the incredible help of Mone (who I just hung up the phone with) the view new threads is working

we're taking subscribing crap off

and report to moderator off

about the color - well go vote on the poll I just created

[bluenoter]

Originally posted by Ron Thorne
Have either of you actually visited the site whose link I provided and looked at the color "minty-green", or is this a knee jerk reaction to a color name which just sounds putrid?

Both! I did look at the color at that site.

Ron, as for your explication re numbered posts, I don't dig, but that's okay. I'm very tired and have trouble grasping number-related concepts even at the best of times. : o

Thanks.

[Lois Gilbert]

I did check out the url and Ron -- I'm sorry, but the minty green makes me think of tums or unemployment offices

Personally I'm not a pastel person but I think the colors we have right eggshell blue and white between threads is fine. What I don't like are the buttons at the top - they look cheesy to me

[mone]

Whomever was asking... you are able to delete your own posts. Just click "Edit" and up at the top you have the option to delete the post entirely.

[tippy]

My vote is for sale.

[bluenoter]

I have the vB code quick links* option enabled in my prefs. This afternoon I used the quick links to play with color, size, font, etc. Maybe I'm dreaming, but the menus for color, size, font, etc. are now *gone.*

Maybe I could re-create a few format features by inserting bracketed codes manually (if I ever learned how), but what a drag!

So are the "menus" that allowed me to quickly choose color, size, font, etc. this afternoon going to be restored?
________________________
*at least I think that's what it's called
_______________________________________________
Edited: Now the quick links are back again! I'm confused, but I'm glad they're back, and I hope they stick around this time. Just saw your message, Moné. Thanks!

[moneyp]

Originally posted by bluenoter
So are the "menus" that allowed me to quickly choose color, size, font, etc. this afternoon going to be restored?

They're back on, pending confirmation from Lois.

Moné

[Lois Gilbert]

Originally posted by mone peterson
They're back on, pending confirmation from Lois.

Moné


That's fine with me. Moné - can we disable please who's currently on line... I agree it's eery....

[moneyp]

Originally posted by Lois Gilbert
That's fine with me. Moné - can we disable please who's currently on line... I agree it's eery....

Done.

Moné

[Ron Thorne]

Originally posted by Lois Gilbert
I did check out the url and Ron -- I'm sorry, but the minty green makes me think of tums or unemployment offices

Personally I'm not a pastel person but I think the colors we have right eggshell blue and white between threads is fine. What I don't like are the buttons at the top - they look cheesy to me

That's cool. I'm not much of a "pastel person" either, as you may have detected from various photos, etc. It was only a suggestion for eye-soothing.

I don't know where I'm supposed to be seeing "eggshell blue", because all of the blue on my monitor is medium dark to nearly navy blue. I've never seen an eggshell the hue I'm looking at right now, that's for sure. :-) There is no light shade anywhere except for the light gray background behind the text on the posts. I see a brighter blue inside the Jazz Corner logo, and a deeper blue surrounding and separating posts.

All of the buttons look cheesy to me, frankly.

These are refinements, though. The board seems to be functioning better and better, and refinements will come in time.

I'm definitely not drastically unhappy with the overall look of the board ... sans the cheesy buttons. :-)

[graypencil]

I'm sure this is a temporary growing pains deal, but:

the last three e-mail notifications came up "file not found" when I clicked on the link. ( I think the senders were Ron, Lois, and Mone ..) ??

ANYWAY ..the FOURTH one ..( I think from Bluenoter ) worked okay ..

just thought I'd point out the gremlin ..




..and pastel colors make me thing of nursing homes ... yeccchh

[bluenoter]

Originally posted by graypencil
ANYWAY ..the FOURTH one ..( I think from Bluenoter ) worked okay ..


???
If only I knew what an e-mail notification was . . .

[Ron Thorne]

One last comment tonight about the overall color scheme of the new site. As much fun as polls can be, and as democratic as voting can be, something as subjective and with as many variants as color hues and combinations can't be determined in this manner, in my experience.

Color combinations, like harmonies in music, must work in concert with one another, and the only way to see if various combinations are pleasing to the eye and complimentary is to view them together, in context.

[moneyp]

Originally posted by Ron Thorne
One last comment tonight about the overall color scheme of the new site. As much fun as polls can be, and as democratic as voting can be, something as subjective and with as many variants as color hues and combinations can't be determined in this manner, in my experience.

There is a way to allow for various color templates that are selectable by the user. We might get something set up as early as tomorrow.

Moné

[Ron Thorne]

Originally posted by mone peterson
There is a way to allow for various color templates that are selectable by the user. We might get something set up as early as tomorrow.

Moné

Moné, that would be very hip, as well as the perfect solution. I have the same kind of options with my e-mail boxes.

Thanks for your input and expertise, young man.

I just realized a couple of days ago that you're a little over a month younger than our youngest child. Please continue to refer to me as Ron, though.

[Ron Thorne]

I just noticed that Tippy lives in Candyland. That cracked me up!

You're too much.

Candyland ... how sweet.

[Uli]

I am having the same problem that Chuck Nessa reported. I am getting e-mails seemingly whenever somebody posts to a thread on which I participated.

I *have* chosen the preference option not to receive such and have not knowingly "subscribed" to any thread.

It's a bit annoying.

[Tom Storer]

This color thing is kind of fascinating. Obviously not everyone is seeing the same thing.

I have the top bar with "JazzCorner's Speakeasy" and the prefs etc. buttons in a blue so dark as to be almost black. I see the same color:
in the bar at the top that identifies the "Author" and "Thread" columns and includes the "new thread" and "post reply" buttons
in the bar at the bottom that includes those buttons and the time information
at the very bottom of the screen that includes the <Contact Us - Jazzcorner> link
in the thin vertical bars framing the left-hand and right-hand sides of the screen
The "Author" and "Thread" columns are black type on a gray background. The rest of the background, including between posts, is white.

Apparently Ron is seeing dark blue where I see white.

I know the whole idea behind HTML is that it's the browser on the viewer's machine that can set significant visual parameters, as opposed to the site itself, but hardly anyone knows this or changes the way things are displayed for them. I suppose the "Display properties" box available through the Windows control panel can be used for some of this, but I'd have to do some trial and error to see.

It would be interesting to know what colors Lois *intended* us to see. Lois?

[tippy]

Ron, thanks. I'm a little taken aback though because my Candyland was manned by gingerbread men. I guess that giant Strawberry Bo Peep ate 'em all in a preemptive attack. Yikes!

[They must have changed it in the last twenty years!]

[bluenoter]

For legibility, to re-create the look of the old board a little, and to make this board look a little different from many others, I suggest the following:

1. Try making Times (New?) Roman (or another font other than the present one) the default font for the text of messages. You'd probably have to experiment with the point size.

2. Or, if you can, give members the option of choosing that font (or other fonts).

3. Experiment just a little with

a couple of different fonts
a couple of different line spacings
a couple of different point sizes


I predict that the present font, point size, and line spacing combination is going to discourage all but very short messages, because long messages would be wearying to read to the point of illegibility.

What would Times (New?) Roman messages look like? Well, they'd look something like this. But if this paragraph doesn't strike you as being very legible either, maybe a different line spacing would be required. At any rate, legibility is such a basic element that it seems well worth striving for--and I say that knowing full well how busy Lois and the other administrators are. This paragraph was formatted from the "quick codes." The point size is 3 (large).

I would love to see Kevin Bresnahan make some more suggestions about the look of the new board now that it's up.

On the old board, Kevin posted the following:

>Kevin Bresnahan 03-14-2003 / 09:14 AM

I have said it before and it bears repeating again: It would be a rather "simple" task to follow UBB's or VBulletin's set-up screens and customize the *look* of these canned bulletin board programs to approximate the current Speakeasy. The Speakeasy is black Times New Roman font on a white background. There is very, very little graphical work around the edges. That's not very difficult to emulate... takes some time, yeah, but not difficult. If Lois takes this route with VBulletin, we should have just about the same "look & feel" as what we have now with better, more-useable software running in the background.

I am looking forward to see what she does with it. The "better" bulletin boards I've been to that use canned software, modify it to the point where you have to search high & low to find out which program is running.

[bluenoter]

Sorry if this is just a trivial housekeeping matter, but I see that the Rating feature is on in the Top 10 thread (but nowhere else?). Is it supposed to be? If so, how does one rate a thread?

I can't quite get my mind around the concept of rating a whole thread.

[Tom Storer]

For what it's worth - just another two cents in a big coffee can full of change - Arial, or whatever the default sans-serif font is that we have now, is if anything easier to read than Times New Roman. Times New Roman looked neat on the old board because the rest of the screen was so uncluttered. This new screen is chock full of stuff and I think I prefer sans-serif in this context.

[moneyp]

Originally posted by bluenoter
2. Or, if you can, give members the option of choosing that font (or other fonts).

An option they already have...

[I predict that the present font, point size, and line spacing combination is going to discourage all but very short messages, because long messages would be wearying to read to the point of illegibility.

I don't think "illegibility" naturally follows "wearying to read" but never mind. I think that's a problem on any message board. I rarely read super-long posts on the old JC.

In any case, this thread gives you the options of "spicing up" your text, so if you're doing a longer post you can practically make it look however you want.

[bluenoter]

quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by bluenoter
2. Or, if you can, give members the option of choosing that font (or other fonts).
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>An option they already have...

What I meant was a blanket preference or option: "Display all posts in X font." And what I meant was that such an option would govern how *all* the messages, not just one's own, would appear.

That's as opposed to using the quick codes in each of one's *own* messages.

BTW, correct me if I'm wrong, but one can apply only one "quick code" option at a time--font OR size OR color, etc. When I want to apply more than one option to the same block of text, I wind up cutting and pasting the codes all over the place. Am I missing something?

I'm not necessarily beating the drum for a serif font (such as Times). However, I don't think that the present combination of default font, line spacing, and point size is easy to read in messages of more than a few lines.

We can't make fine adjustments, but can the administrators, and if so, could they try a few? For example, the same default font with a slightly smaller point size or a slightly larger amount of line spacing might be a big improvement.

[Jim Dye]

Looking great Lois. Nice work too mone.

I agree, it would be nicwe if you had some different color schemes to choose from. Classic Jazz Corner, New Look, etc...

Also, Gary asked why private messages should be turned on. I don't mind people sending me e-mails here, but if you leave your e-mail address accessable to everyone, it's only a matter of time before some e-mail address harvester will come through and get all of our addresses to add to some spam lists. Private messages eliminates this problem.

I don't mind smilies or avatars, as long as we have the option to turn them off.

Kevin, I agree that moving avatars are a bit annoying, but I did make a pretty cool one in Flash over at organissimo. They really don't fit here though.

One last thing. Chuck and Uli, I think since you were originally subscribed to a thread while the e-mail notification prefs were on, you will continue to get e-mails when activity is posted to the thread even though you turned the pref off.

You won't get e-mails to any future threads you post to, but it seems like there is a little glitch in making the preference stick for threads to which you already posted.

Cheers!

[Uli]

Originally posted by Jim Dye
Looking great Lois. Nice work too mone.


One last thing. Chuck and Uli, I think since you were originally subscribed to a thread while the e-mail notification prefs were on, you will continue to get e-mails when activity is posted to the thread even though you turned the pref off.

You won't get e-mails to any future threads you post to, but it seems like there is a little glitch in making the preference stick for threads to which you already posted.

Cheers!

Thanks, Jim. Sounds at least somewhat comforting. The thing however is, that my preference was always off and that I even get e-mails for threads I have not posted on. The glitch seems to be of a more generalnature to me. I have also noticed, that one has the option to overrride your own preferences on somesingle threads by clicking in the box e-mail notification. On some threads Ihave noticed that the default had this option chose.

What doesconfuse me even more is that the e-mails I get say I get them becaus I have subscribed to the thread,which I haven't. Honestly, I would not even know what subscribing to a thread meeans.

Anyway, it is a pain in the neck,because I am getting e-mails in the hundreds.

[moneyp]

Originally posted by bluenoter
BTW, correct me if I'm wrong, but one can apply only one "quick code" option at a time--font OR size OR color, etc. When I want to apply more than one option to the same block of text, I wind up cutting and pasting the codes all over the place. Am I missing something?

No, it does require a little cut and paste, but it's not very complex.

I'm not necessarily beating the drum for a serif font (such as Times). However, I don't think that the present combination of default font, line spacing, and point size is easy to read in messages of more than a few lines.

We can't make fine adjustments, but can the administrator[s], and if so, could they try a few? For example, the same default font with a slightly smaller point size or a slightly larger amount of line spacing might be a big improvement.

Well, that's up to Lois. I don't have a problem with it. In fact, in contrast to some boards, I'm finding it very easy to read. Is anyone else finding the board hard to read?

[moneyp]

Originally posted by Uli
Thanks, Jim. Sounds at least somewhat comforting. The thing however is, that my preference was always off and that I even get e-mails for threads I have not posted on. The glitch seems to be of a more generalnature to me. I have also noticed, that one has the option to overrride your own preferences on somesingle threads by clicking in the box e-mail notification. On some threads Ihave noticed that the default had this option chose.

Uli, what thread does it say you're subscribed to?

[bluenoter]

I'd like to stress that what I find hard to read with the current default appearance settings is messages of more than a few lines--longer messages, such as JC tends to get a lot of.

Again, I know how busy the administrators are, but when it comes to experimentation, especially in the service of such basics as legibility/comfort/ease of use, I'd think that now's the time.

I'd also like to stress that I appreciate all the work y'all have been doing!

[Uli]

Originally posted by mone peterson
Uli, what thread does it say you're subscribed to?

Here is one example of an e-mailmessage

"Hello Uli,

mone peterson has just replied to a thread you have subscribed to entitled - Jazz in France - in the Speakout forum of Jazzcorner's Speakeasy.

This thread is located at:
http://www.jazzcornertalk.com//showthread.php?threadid=28&goto=newpost

There may be other replies also, but you will not receive any more notifications until you visit the board again.

Yours,
Jazzcorner's Speakeasy team"

I have not knowingly subscribed to the Jazz in France thread nor do I believe I posted on it (could be wrong). When I click on the links in the e-mail to unsuscribe, the links don't work.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unsubscription information:

To unsubscribe from this thread, please visit this page:
http://www.jazzcornertalk.com//member2.php?action=usub&threadid=28

To unsubscribe from ALL threads, please visit this page:
http://www.jazzcornertalk.com//member2.php?action=usub&type=allthread

[moneyp]

Uli:

I did a mass unsubscribe for all the threads.

Anyone, post here if you're still getting messages.

[bluenoter]

Unlike the old board, the new board has no pull-down "Subjects in this conference" menu--no alphabetical list of existing threads. I guess most boards don't.

Soon not all of the threads in a given forum will be visible on the same page. So how do we avoid creating six threads about Musician X recs, four threads about the Place X jazz scene, etc.?

True, we have a good search engine that will allow us to locate, say, all threads about Musician X, but how do we avoid creating overly similar threads in the first place (other than to do a search before we start a new thread)?

[moneyp]

Originally posted by bluenoter
True, we have a good search engine that will allow us to locate, say, all threads about Musician X, but how do we avoid creating overly similar threads in the first place (other than to do a search before we start a new thread)?

You can't, so don't worry about it!

[bluenoter]

Originally posted by mone peterson
You can't, so don't worry about it!

What, me not worry? No, if y'all aren't worried, I'm not worried.

[moneyp]

Originally posted by bluenoter
What, me not worry? No, if y'all aren't worried, I'm not worried.

I'all t'aint worried none!

[SinginSumo]

I'd like to see a recipient immediately alerted that he/she has just received a PM.

[moneyp]

Sumo:

If the recipient has set themselves to allow PMs, and set it so that a message window pops up when they get one, they should receive it immediately. In any event, it isn't set for any sort of time delay.

[bluenoter]

SS--In the "Edit Options" section are these two yes-or-no questions:

>Send you an email when you receive a Private Message?

>Pop up a box when you receive a Private Message?
This will pop up a small warning box when you receive a Private Message asking whether you want to view the message.

[bluenoter]

Administrators, sorry to drive you nuts today, but just a reminder: The Top 10 forum inexplicably still has the Rating feature turned on and displayed.

[Ed Swinnich]

Just curious as to why there is no forum for Festivals etc. I used to love to come to this board and have my posts in the Montreal Jazz Festival thread ignored.

[SinginSumo]

bluenoter - As always, I am appreciate of your help. I was really requesting what I was from the perspective of a sender. Now that you mention it, I'll double-check my own settings.

[moneyp]

Originally posted by bluenoter
Administrators, sorry to drive you nuts today, but just a reminder: The Top 10 forum inexplicably still has the Rating feature turned on and displayed.

I could fix it, but I think I'll leave it just because I know it's driving you nuts.

[elizabethbrion]

Regarding fonts: The generally accepted useability rule is that sans serif is easier to read on a screen, serif in print. Pretty much any modern browser has an easy way to adjust the size of the type to your preference; on my laptop, the type here is a little small, so I hit command-plus sign and it moves it up a level. That adjustment stays put until I leave the site. On my iMac, which is at 800X600 resolution, the type's already fairly enormous. Were it any bigger, I'd have to adjust it downward!

Regarding similar threads: Personally, I'd prefer that to having an old 800-post-long thread pulled up to the top and having to wade through it figuring out what you've already seen. But maybe that's just me.

[bluenoter]

Originally posted by Ed Swinnich
Just curious as to why there is no forum for Festivals etc. Good question. Was the omission of a Festivals forum an oversight? We could use one.

Moné--Very funny.

[Sergio Zamora]

hey, this is kinda cool!

[bluenoter]

Sergio--Very cool!

Moné-- Please see my message of March-22nd-2003 05:51 PM in The Top 10. It's a little surprise about the board.

[moneyp]

Originally posted by bluenoter
Sergio--Very cool!

Moné-- Please see my message of March-22nd-2003 05:51 PM in The Top 10. It's a little surprise about the board.

It's been dealt with.

*mumble grumble*

[bluenoter]

Originally posted by mone peterson
It's been dealt with.

*mumble grumble*

So I now see.
*grumble mumble*

But seriously, thanks for dealing with all these things.

[bluenoter]

Admins, the time suddenly got one hour too early. One result (?) is that a message of mine in "Mugshots" in the Alley got posted before other messages that actually preceded it!

[moneyp]

Originally posted by bluenoter
Admins, the time suddenly got one hour too early. One result (?) is that a message of mine in "Mugshots" in the Alley got posted before other messages that actually preceded it!

See it... workin' on it...

[Sergio Zamora]

I keep getting this message saying users can only post one message every 30 secs, even if I haven't posted anything for longer.

Also, the posts and threads seem to be in weird orders.

[moneyp]

Originally posted by Sergio Zamora
I keep getting this message saying users can only post one message every 30 secs, even if I haven't posted anything for longer.

Also, the posts and threads seem to be in weird orders.

Thread order is part of the time problem. I'll set it to Atlantic time temporarily to alleviate the problem.

[patricia]

Originally posted by Lois Gilbert
so

do you want private messages?
do you want to be notified by email of new messages on threads
do you want to see how many people viewed a thread
what other forums do you want me to open?

what else?

By private messages, do you mean a special thread for exchanges between posters, expanding on topics of special interest to them?
Being notified by e-mail of new messages is a good idea, so yes.
I think we already try to keep up with what new releases are available, as well as re-releases, but how about a source centre for vintage vinyl, continent-wide, pinpointing their locations and how we can contact them? Probably those posters who live in the source cities could pass on recs for both vinyl and good compilations on CD of interest to us?

[bluenoter]

Originally posted by patricia
By private messages, do you mean a special thread for exchanges between posters, expanding on topics of special interest to them?


Patricia--No. There's a f.a.q.s button at the top of the page, and in the FAQs is a topic called "What Is Private Messaging?" You can read all about it.

[Kevin Bresnahan]

Well, I've been locked out of this place for almost two days now... let's see if I can post this.

[Kevin Bresnahan]

Aye carumba!! BFT. Man, I couldn't get this server to send me a cookie for nuthin'.

Thanks for fixing it, Mone.

Later,
Kevin

[BFrank]

Hey, Kevin, I had the same problem. I couldn't get cookies to "stick" either. Looks like Mone fixed it for us.

[moneyp]

Originally posted by Kevin Bresnahan
Aye carumba!! BFT. Man, I couldn't get this server to send me a cookie for nuthin'.

Thanks for fixing it, Mone.

Later,
Kevin

Cool, yer in. I think that's everyone!

[patricia]

Originally posted by bluenoter


Patricia--No. There's a f.a.q.s button at the top of the page, and in the FAQs is a topic called "What Is Private Messaging?" You can read all about it.

Thanks for clearing that up. DUH, BASIC, as my daughter would say. :)

[Jim Sangrey]

Hate to complain, Dude, and I suspect you're already on it in some form or fashion, but the button on the scroll bar is just too darn hard for me to see in it's present black-on-blue configuration. It's cool on my main box, cause I got a wheelmouse. But on the other one, I don't, and I'm telling you man, it's rough.

'Preciate your work. Thanks.

[moneyp]

Originally posted by Jim Sangrey
Hate to complain, Dude, and I suspect you're already on it in some form or fashion, but the button on the scroll bar is just too darn hard for me to see in it's present black-on-blue configuration. It's cool on my main box, cause I got a wheelmouse. But on the other one, I don't, and I'm telling you man, it's rough.

It's actually dark blue-on-medium blue, but it appears that people are seeing it differently.

But yeah, I'm looking at new optional styles so that people can try other color schemes.

[Jim Sangrey]

Can't ask for more than that! (insert "thumbs up smilie here)

[bluenoter]

Admins--Robin Eubanks expressed some urgent concerns in his thread. Please see them.

[bluenoter]

Admins--

Speakeasy is the name of "the house."
Speak Out, now being spelled Speakout, is the name of a forum.

The two are easy to confuse, and I've seen several people confuse them!

To reduce the possibility of confusion, I strongly suggest that you spell Speakout the way it was spelled on the old board: Speak Out.

If you do, you would need to change the spelling

1. in the linked name of the forum

2. in the legend beneath it

3. in the Forum Jump drop-down menus.

Thanks!

[Tom Storer]

Originally posted by Ed Swinnich
Just curious as to why there is no forum for Festivals etc. I used to love to come to this board and have my posts in the Montreal Jazz Festival thread ignored.

Ed, just post anywhere! We'll be glad to ignore it!

;-)

Actually, I'm glad you're posting more frequently. I personally ignored your Montreal Jazz Festival posts because I'm far from Montreal - nothing personal!

[moneyp]

Originally posted by bluenoter
To reduce the possibility of confusion, I strongly suggest that you spell Speakout the way it was spelled on the old board: Speak Out.

Boy, you sure are strongly suggesting it. I'll leave that decision up to Lois.

[Pete C]

I would also like to see a separate Festivals forum.

[Ed Swinnich]

Originally posted by Tom Storer
Ed, just post anywhere! We'll be glad to ignore it!

;-)

!

Thanks for the advice Tom. And thanks in advance to those of you who continue to ignore my posts ;-)

[Uli]

For consistancy sake with the old board, could the buddy button be renamed the minion button?

[bluenoter]

Originally posted by mone peterson
Boy, you sure are strongly suggesting it. I'll leave that decision up to Lois.

Hmmm. Maybe I'm overdoing the boldface. Sorry.

[bluenoter]

Edited: You fixed it. Thanks!

The IMG function is now off in some of the forums (and on in others). Did y'all do that on purpose? It's a little cumbersome to have to look at the bottom of the screen in each thread to see whether images are permitted.

[Sergio Zamora]

Is there anyway to add the last posted thread for each forum in the main page?

[moneyp]

Originally posted by Sergio Zamora
Is there anyway to add the last posted thread for each forum in the main page?

The main page is due to be completely overhauled. Have patience.

[bluenoter]

Originally posted by mone peterson
The main page is due to be completely overhauled. Have patience.

Moné, when that's afoot, I'd really appreciate your running my "Speak Out, not Speakout" request by Lois (assuming that she hasn't been through all the feedback messages). I promise not to bring it up again.

[GoodSpeak]

I'm friggin' LOST here.

How the hell do you use this BBS now?


Crimony.

[moneyp]

Originally posted by GoodSpeak
I'm friggin' LOST here.

How the hell do you use this BBS now?


Crimony.

The way you're using it now, man. Hit reply and submit. The rest is gravy.

[bluenoter]

GoodSpeak, you just got here! Relax and try out this and that (if you feel like it). I see you already were experienting with the codes for colors, typefaces, etc. We can edit our posts, as before, and now we can delete them too, so if something doesn't work the way you want it to, no harm done.

I strongly suggest that you ask any *specific* questions you might have. If you do, someone will come along and answer them for you. We've all been helping each other figure things out.

As for losing the old board, not exactly. If you read through some of the posts in the Feedback section, you'll see that Lois apparently still hopes to archive all the old board's posts over here and have them be searchable, read-only--at least, that was the plan.

[cookie]

I think it's pretty cool here. I've seen similar BBS set ups, but never really took the time to get into them.

After playing around here for a couple of days, I find that I like it. More options and more organized (after you catch on).

So far, I think I'm gonna like it here.

Congratulations, Lois!

[Lois Gilbert]

Originally posted by cookie
I think it's pretty cool here. I've seen similar BBS set ups, but never really took the time to get into them.

After playing around here for a couple of days, I find that I like it. More options and more organized (after you catch on).

So far, I think I'm gonna like it here.

Congratulations, Lois!

Thanks Cookie and everyone and
please remember this is a work in progress.

Tomorrow, or later today for some of us, Moné and I going to attempt to customize and allow you to customize.

The archives from the old speakeasy will be in later in the week. It is a really tedious process which we had to wait till the last day of the old board to start....

Love and blintzes
Lois

[Ron Thorne]

Originally posted by Lois Gilbert
Tomorrow, or later today for some of us, Moné and I going to attempt to customize and allow you to customize.

The archives from the old speakeasy will be in later in the week.

Great news all around, Lois! Hats off to you, Moné, and whomever else has been lending a hand. I think you've done a remarkable seat-of-the-pants launch of something far more complex than most people appreciate.

With respect and admiration,

Father Thorne

[tippy]

Last night I posted an image for the first time so I had to turn on the vb thing. Shortly thereafter, when closing out of the internet, my graphics froze up and I noticed my computer wasn't running quite as well so I turned off the vb thing and then when to defrag my disk. During disk defrag it asked me to run scandisk and I did that, anyway to make a long story short now I can't run windows on my computer. All modes lead to "It Is Now Safe to Turn Off Your Computer" and when I go to run Win from dos, I get the above error "HIMEM.SYS is missing"

Anybody know what I can do to fix this? (I am posting from work this a.m.)

[SinginSumo]

Mone - Would you be kind enough to transfer graypencil's and jazzooo's photos from the Attach File thread to the Mugshot thread? Thanks.

[Kevin Bresnahan]

Originally posted by tippy
Last night I posted an image for the first time so I had to turn on the vb thing. Shortly thereafter, when closing out of the internet, my graphics froze up and I noticed my computer wasn't running quite as well so I turned off the vb thing and then when to defrag my disk. During disk defrag it asked me to run scandisk and I did that, anyway to make a long story short now I can't run windows on my computer. All modes lead to "It Is Now Safe to Turn Off Your Computer" and when I go to run Win from dos, I get the above error "HIMEM.SYS is missing"

Anybody know what I can do to fix this? (I am posting from work this a.m.)

Tip, can you boot it from a recovery diskette? If you can, boot it into DOS (which should come up with a prompt for C:). Type D: to switch to your CD-Rom drive and load your Windows CD-Rom into it. You should be able to run the set up program by simply typing setup and pressing enter.

I am almost positive Windows installers check out the current system and should find Windows already loaded. You should get an option to "repair" the system.

[bluenoter]

I'm quite ignorant of such things, but I'm going to offer this anyway: It sounds as if Tip can already get into DOS, so wouldn't it be simplest for her to do a SCAN REG RESTORE? (That's the term I know it by.) I've fixed many a screwup by switching to a registry from a day or two earlier.

[tippy]

Kevin, I appreciate your response. I have a startup for '98 but someone loaded Office '97 (so I could have Word) for me last year when my power supply went out so that means I will need an Office '97 startup and my '98 disk won't help, right?

Anyway, that is a relief, I expect that will work if I get a hold of the disk. I know I'm low on disk space but I just need my comp to last for word processing for the next two months--I knew if I went back on i'net I would get in trouble but i'net is so fun.

Thanks for your help.

[Gary Sisco]

Why are the timestamps so far off for "EST"? It's confusing as all hell.

[tippy]

Blue, that sounds like a good suggestion too. I'll run that right when I get home tonight. I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks a lot!

[bluenoter]

Tip, do you know how? It's very simple to do, but one has to know how. Again, I'm assuming that you can get into DOS now.

I can give you the instructions that work for me if necessary, tonight or whenever you need them.

[tippy]

Thanks, Bluenoter. I am able to get into dos...not sure I remember how...oh yeah, I did some step by step thing (one of 7 options, including "safe" mode, etc.) that made big noises at JAVASETUP.vx? and at MSMOUSE.vx it really made noises and took a long time. After that I don't remember but eventually I got a c: prompt and typed in "win" and that's when it told me HIMEM.SYS is missing.

[tippy]

And, NO, I do not know how. I was just going to type "SCAN REG RESTORE" at the c: prompt...was that naive? ;)

[bluenoter]

Originally posted by tippy
I was just going to type "SCAN REG RESTORE" at the c: prompt...was that naive? ;)

Tip, it wasn't naive, and I see your smiley, but please don't do that! It's a several-step process, not a one-step process. Again, it's very simple, but you've gotta do things right when you're dealing with your registry. I'll post the steps that I use either when you ask for them or this evening, in this thread.

DISCLAIMER: I can tell you how to do it correctly, but it may not solve your problems! Reading over your messages again, I'm wondering whether your having done whatever you did to the vB codes (which I didn't understand) was just coincidental and whether your computer would have acted up regardless.

[tippy]

Bluenoter, I started having freeze problems right after I turned on the VBcodes in my options in order to post a couple of chinchilla images for my hero Steve (thelil) (who I now blame for my broken computer but if he does eventually show up, it will all be worth it).

In seriousness, if your method doesn't work, I know of course that it ain't your fault. But I can appreciate your need to post the disclaimer.

I *would* love it if you could post the steps when that is convenient for you. I wouldn't be able to read them off the i'net from home where I will need to perform the work.

And lastly, I really really appreciate your taking the time.

And yes, my computer's disk space I think is about full and I think the hard drive is about to fail. (Just a *little* problem. hee hee)

[bluenoter]

Originally posted by tippy
I *would* love it if you could post the steps when that is convenient for you. I wouldn't be able to read them off the i'net from home where I will need to perform the work.

Duh! Of course you wouldn't! I need to go out and do a few errands, but as soon as I get back, I'll post them.

[Ron Thorne]

Lois or Moné-

I was under the impression that we were no longer going to receive e-mail alerts when someone responded to something we posted. There were over 160 e-mails from Jazz Corner in my mailbox this morning! Please do whatever is necessary to take me off any list for auto-response or whatever this software calls this feature. I did not request this feature and can't handle my mailbox being filled up in this manner.

Thanks.

[moneyp]

Originally posted by Ron Thorne
Lois or Moné-

I was under the impression that we were no longer going to receive e-mail alerts when someone responded to something we posted. There were over 160 e-mails from Jazz Corner in my mailbox this morning! Please do whatever is necessary to take me off any list for auto-response or whatever this software calls this feature. I did not request this feature and can't handle my mailbox being filled up in this manner.

Thanks.

It's done, Ron, but just so you know, you *did* have "e-mail notification" selected in your options. I turned it off for you.

[Ron Thorne]

Originally posted by mone peterson
It's done, Ron, but just so you know, you *did* have "e-mail notification" selected in your options. I turned it off for you.

Thank you. My mistake, apparently. I should have looked at my preferences/options before posting. There's more that's "new" here than not, obviously. I think I may have checked the box inadvertently. No matter ... glad that you turned it off for me, Moné.

[bluenoter]

HOW TO DO A SCAN REG RESTORE

--The theory: You'll be telling your computer to go back in time and use a Registry from a date *before* things got screwed up.

--The practice:

1. Restart the computer in MS DOS. (Start button>Shut Down>Restart in MS DOS). Or *be* in MS DOS.

2. See a prompt that says

C:\WINDOWS>

(If you don't see it, take a look at steps 3. and 4. and see if you can "improvise.")

3. Right after the prompt, type

cd\

(note the backslash), then hit Enter.

4. See a prompt that says

C:\>

5. Right after the prompt, type

scanreg

and hit Enter.

6. See a big gray box that says "Check Your Registry." At the bottom, see Start (and other choices).

7. On your keyboard, hit S (for Start). (I don't *think* you'll need to hit Enter.)

8. See a big gray box that says "Good Registry." At the bottom, see View Backups (and other choices).

9. On your keyboard, hit V (for View).

10. See a big gray box that contains perhaps four dates. At the bottom, see Restore (and other choices).

--HOW TO DECIDE WHAT DATE TO CHOOSE: Choose a date that's at least 24 hours *before* things got screwed up. Your documents and other "personal stuff" won't be affected, but your computer settings *might* be affected. So choose a date that's not only *before* the screwup but *after* you did anything major on your computer. Hope that makes sense!!

11. Choose a date, using the arrow keys on your keyboard to move from date to date.

12. On your keyboard, hit R (for Restore).

---Now we might get *a little* imprecise because when going through the process in order to write these directions, I in fact hit Cancel instead of Restore. But the hard part is behind you, and all that remains is to "get out."

13. See a big gray box that says "You have restored a good registry," etc. At the bottom, you may see a choice that says Exit, or you may see a choice that says Restart.

14. On your keyboard, hit X (for Exit) or R (for Restart).

15. See a prompt that says

C:\>

16. Right after the prompt, type

exit

and hit Enter.

17. Your computer should automatically restart--in Windows, we hope.

Just one more disclaimer: I know almost nothing about computers. I just happen to know how to do this (for myself, at least).

Good luck!

[tippy]

Okay, thanks, Bluenoter. I don't know if I'll be able to get c:/windows though but this morning I was able to get c:/. I'll see what I can do. Thanks for your help with this.

[bluenoter]

Tip, don't forget, those are backslashes \, not forward slashes /.

I've been adding more to the directions constantly, so please make sure you've seen the whole thing. I'm about to finish now.

[bluenoter]

Tip, I'm done with the directions now. I'm sorry to noodge you, but it's sort of a delicate process, so *please* make sure you've seen (and printed?) the *whole thing.*

[moneyp]

Just saw Tip's problem. No offense to BN, but I highly recommend she try Kevin's solution first. Do a repair from the CD. It shouldn't effect your Office/Word setup. If that doesn't take, attempt the registry restore.

[bluenoter]

Moné--No offense whatever! Mercy, you and no doubt Kevin know infinitely more about these things than I do.

[tippy]

Hmmm, I guess I better take it into the shop. I don't know where I'll find an Office '97 startup. Best to take it to the place that installed it I suppose.

Bluenoter, I think you know more than you think you know. :) Really, your assistance is greatly appreciated.

And thanks to Mone and Kevin too.

Anyway this non-computer-literate non-non-geek is signing out til Tuesday. Have a good evening and a pleasant tomorrow.

[Pete C]

Originally posted by tippy
Have a good evening and a pleasant tomorrow.

Did someone say tomorrow?

Today I may not have a thing at all
Except for just a dream or two
But I've got lots of plans for tomorrow
And all my tomorrows belong to you

Right now it may not seem like spring at all
We're drifting and the laughs are few
But I've got rainbows planned for tomorrow
And all my tomorrows belong to you

As long as I've got arms that cling at all
It's you that I'll be clinging to
And all the dreams I dream, beg, or borrow
On some bright tomorrow they'll all come true

And all my bright tomorrows belong to you

http://www.classicmoviemusicals.com/cahn2.jpg

[Sergio Zamora]

I'm thinking there are gonna be some threads that are ongoing and should be put on a separate forum. Specifically, the 'scene' threads for different cities might be well-served on their own forum. Since we don't have the drop-down list anymore, it might make it easier to find threads that occasionally get buried but which we might want to revive every once in a while.

I'm not sure what other threads would qualify, but I'm sure others will think of something. I wouldn't put the WAYLT on a different forum because that one has a life of its own.

Anyway, not a request - just a suggestion. I realize it's kinda vague, but it's food for thought.

[Gary Sisco]

Whoa. No drop down lists. I hadn't thought of that, yet. Sheeit. I used those a lot. I'll miss that feature. What is it's similar feature here, if any? It won't be long before threads start dropping down.

[Reid]

Does anyone know if there is a way to get back to the forum page after posting (instead of going back to the thread you just posted on)? Thanks.

Lois,

Would it be OK to have a thread on ebay stuff we're selling, or is that a no no?

[bluenoter]

Originally posted by Pete C
Did someone say tomorrow?

Today I may not have a thing at all
Except for just a dream or two
But I've got lots of plans for tomorrow
And all my tomorrows belong to you . . .


Canhttp://www.comicbookradioshow.com/trapped/orphanannie.gif be far behind?

TOMORROW! TOMORROW! . . .

[bluenoter]

Admins, suddenly the line of graphics consisting of

JAZZ CORNER'S SPEAKEASY banner and buttons--user cp, register, calendar, members, f.a.q., search, home

is too wide to fit on my 17-inch screen.

The whole button "home" no longer fits and no longer shows. (Considering that the "home" button now extends to the right of everything else on the screen, it's not surprising that it no longer shows.)

This situation is a *major* impediment to using the board, because the "home" button is constantly used for navigation.

[Lois Gilbert]

Originally posted by Reid
Does anyone know if there is a way to get back to the forum page after posting (instead of going back to the thread you just posted on)? Thanks.

Lois,

Would it be OK to have a thread on ebay stuff we're selling, or is that a no no?

Sure

maybe we should have a for sale and classified category?

whaddaya think

[moneyp]

Originally posted by bluenoter
Admins, suddenly the line of graphics consisting of

JAZZ CORNER'S SPEAKEASY banner and buttons--user cp, register, calendar, members, f.a.q., search, home

is too wide to fit on my 17-inch screen.

The whole button "home" no longer fits and no longer shows.

BN, your screen resolution must have changed. The site isn't any different on my machine (in either IE or Opera).

[bluenoter]

Moné, thanks, but please see the edited version, quoted here:

Originally posted by bluenoter
Admins, suddenly the line of graphics consisting of

JAZZ CORNER'S SPEAKEASY banner and buttons--user cp, register, calendar, members, f.a.q., search, home

is too wide to fit on my 17-inch screen.

The whole button "home" no longer fits and no longer shows. (Considering that the "home" button now extends to the right of everything else on the screen, it's not surprising that it no longer shows.)

This situation is a *major* impediment to using the board, because the "home" button is constantly used for navigation.

I'm in IE. On your machine, do you not see the "home" button extending to the right of everything else on the screen? That being the case, no wonder it doesn't show.

I didn't do anything intentional to change my screen resolution, and other sites still look fine.

Are you *sure* that neither Lois nor you recently added an extra button or made the JC SPEAKEASY banner bigger?

I must admit, I'm getting a little panicky. What can I do, other than a "scan reg restore" such as I recommended to Tippy? : )

[moneyp]

Originally posted by bluenoter
[Are you *sure* that neither Lois nor you recently added an extra button or made the JC SPEAKEASY banner bigger?

Yeah, I'm sure.

And the home button is right in line with everything else on the screen, which is set to conform to your browser window size. Again, I think this is a local problem on your system, probably an issue with your display settings.

[bluenoter]

Originally posted by mone peterson
And the home button is right in line with everything else on the screen, which is set to conform to your browser window size.

Okay, I actually did a "scan reg restore," going back to yesterday's Registry. The home button still appears to the right of everything else on the screen. Everything else on the screen fits fine! Other sites look fine!

Again, I think this is a local problem on your system, probably an issue with your display settings.

I have no idea what to do next. Can you suggest anything?

[Reid]

Lois,

A sales section would be cool. I would like to recommend having ebay in the title somewhere.

[Lois Gilbert]

Originally posted by Reid
Lois,

A sales section would be cool. I would like to recommend having ebay in the title somewhere.


I don't want to put ebay cause people may sell through their own pay pal set up or their own ecommerce plan

What about a trading post as well

[GoodSpeak]

Still TRYING to post.

[GoodSpeak]

OK. So I have to PREVIEW each Post BEFORE I post it...??? What is THAT all about?

[GoodSpeak]

IT is RIDICULOUS...if I may be so BOLD...and THIS is what passes for a more efficient BBS...??? Oh, my Lord...HEY, I'm PRE-VIEWING here.

[bluenoter]

Originally posted by GoodSpeak
OK. So I have to PREVIEW each Post BEFORE I post it...??? What is THAT all about? No, you don't. Just hit "submit reply."

[GoodSpeak]

THAT is what I have been DOING.

It flat does not WORK.

[GoodSpeak]

http://

[bluenoter]

Originally posted by GoodSpeak
THAT is what I have been DOING.

It flat does not WORK.

GoodSpeak, you've been posting messages, so what do you mean it doesn't work? Can you be a little more clear about what the problem is?

[GoodSpeak]

http://photos.yahoo.com/goodspeak

[bluenoter]

Okay, GoodSpeak. I have a little hunch about what you're doing wrong.

Forget about the colors and the other special codes, and compose your message in the BIG GRAY BOX.

You can learn how to post with colors and the other format features later. As you would say, "trust me."

[GoodSpeak]

OH yeah...this works REALLY well.

^UP

[GoodSpeak]

Hit and MISS, bay-bee.


Sometimes it works and sometimes it don't.

[Ron Thorne]

Ummmm, Reid, I'm pretty certain the eBay would not like it very much if Lois set up a sales area using their trademarked name. A Trading Post would be cool. We used to have one on the "old" board.

Goodspeak, relax, man. This isn't rocket science. Don't make it more difficult than it truly is, my friend.

1. To post, click on the Post Reply button, type your message, then click on Submit Reply. You're done! Simple.

2. No, you don't have to Preview any post before you submit it. That's simply an option so that you can check for spelling errors, layout, content, etc. It's desi