vBulletin 3.0

[Gentle Giant]

Pretty spiffy! I dig it.

[moneyp]

Thanks!

(Huh. There's a character limit. Gotta fix that.)

[Sergio Zamora]

It's new and it's different. I'm scared. Make it look the same, mone.

[moneyp]

What, the same? The boring old same styles that vbskinz decided they wouldn't be updating? That would be too easy!

[Jazzzoline]

[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=7][COLOR=Plum][B][CENTER]Whoa... A new TOY !!!!!!!!

But.. does it work??

[Dr Dave]

What Sergio said. It seems like there's an awful lot of stuff on the pages.

No fear. I'll get over it. Sergio will, too, I bet.

[moneyp]

There is a bunch of stuff on the page, but a lot of it is new and cool, giving you guys more ease of accessibility. And of course, we have some surprises in store.

[Monte Smith]

Very cluttered and over-sized, but I look forward to the new toys.

[moneyp]

I'll be fixing the oversized look by lowering the text size of the usernames and ditching those icons. Hopefully, that will make it less gaudy looking.

[Chris A]

I like the button that says I'm invisible while other either are or aren't present. Can you leave that one?

[GoodSpeak]

Ya done good, Mone...ya done good.

[GoodSpeak]

Could you get it to eliminate 99% of the white space in Goody's posts?




Hey, hey, HEY!


That space is put there for a reason, Bo'Trick.






You think I LIKE making so much space? Huh...do ya?




Geez.

Ya think ya know a guy...




















































sheesh.

[tippy]

I like Sergio's response. Hee hee. My therapist is talking me through this as I post. I've been telling her about what happened...that there was no warning...I was so disoriented... What my therapist and I have formulated so far is that yes, I should have been warned ahead of time, my upset feelings are verified; however, I have accepted it as a small infraction and I COMPLETELY forgive Mone now (really I do!). Forgiveness is something I can do for MYSELF to help release angry feelings.

just kidding. My first feelings for the new site are positive. Although I was complaining earlier that it was hurting my eyes, either my eyes are adjusting or Mone is monkeying with it to better effect.

[tippy]

Hey Mone, what are these little symbols attached to our names, what's a green dot and what's a red dot? Are those gender symbols? I don't like that. Why is that necessary? To verify the sex of who we're cybershtupping? That's sort of perverse as a standard protocol. Also, how come I don't have a danger sign by my name??? But it looks like most other people do. You don't think I'm dangerous? What is the meaning of this? Is it CIA code?

[moneyp]

Ya done good, Mone...ya done good.
Thank yuh, Goody.

Tip, I would have sent you all a warning, but I didn't want the spontaneity to go out of our relationship.

And the ocular adjustment is part of this software's keen new features. Prolonged exposure will cause you all to see the world as I do and think as I would.

Pretty cool, huh?

[moneyp]

Hey Mone, what are these little symbols attached to our names, what's a green dot and what's a red dot? Are those gender symbols? I don't like that. Why is that necessary? To verify the sex of who we're cybershtupping? That's sort of perverse as a standard protocol. Also, how come I don't have a danger sign by my name??? But it looks like most other people do. You don't think I'm dangerous? What is the meaning of this? Is it CIA code?
Tip. The green light/red light allegedly tells you whether a user is on or not, but that's such a banal explanation. Let's call it a karma light. If the good karma is flowing, it's green. If not, it's red. You'll notice mine is always red.

The danger sign is a "report post" function. It's disabled, so it does nothing, and will be gone soon.

[tippy]

Prolonged exposure will cause you all to see the world as I do and think as I would.

Pretty cool, huh?

Mone, is this some kind of I'm-the-same-age-as-when-Jesus-died pre-midlife crisis?

[moneyp]

Mone, is this some kind of I'm-the-same-age-as-when-Jesus-died pre-midlife crisis?

Exactly. And you all thought Mel's film only hit the Christians hard.

[GoodSpeak]

And the ocular adjustment is part of this software's keen new features. Prolonged exposure will cause you all to see the world as I do and think as I would.

Pretty cool, huh?

Um...


Thank yuh, Goody.



No charge ;)

[tippy]

Okay, thanks Mone, for splaining to me. I am finished with my 100 questions. :)

[moneyp]

Okay, thanks Mone, for splaining to me. I am finished with my 100 questions. :)

No problem. You wouldn't be amenable to washing my feet, would you?

[tippy]

Well I would have until I found out you weren't a Christian. This changes EVERYTHING.

[GoodSpeak]

Long as it doesn't involve toenails.



Ack.

[bluenoter]

Silly me. I posted the following in the "Suggestions, Feedback" forum.

Yo! Adminses!

1. I have "Invisibility" checked in my User Options, but now my name shows up in the Active Users list anyway. I tried unchecking and rechecking "Invisibility," logging off and on again, closing my browser, etc. But instead of my being invisible, there's an asterisk after my name in the Active Users list. (Oh, and the area to the left of my posts shows a "bad karma" icon and the announcement that I'm invisible.) :confused:

2. I hate "Yesterday" and "Today" for post times! Can you restore the actual dates of "yesterday" and "today," or give us an option, or take a poll or something?

Thanks!

[GoodSpeak]

'Sup, Blue'?


Nice to "see" you posting again ;)

[Jon Abbey]

Or how about ignoring Abbey only on the baseball thread, but only during the regular season?

you'll be happy to know I wore my baseball hat that just says "1918" around town on my errands today.

[bluenoter]

Goodster--

Thanks! I was going to post a message about my star-studded evening as a famous Democratic politicians' groupie last night (and a few words about my long absence from the board), but like Tippy, I'm traumatized by all the changes. :)

[BFrank]

I like the new look. It will be better when the text is smaller, but other than that, it works for ME.

As everyone said, I'll have to check out the new "toys" to see what there is to do now.

[Pete C]

Will the PM button next to each post come back? It's easier than looking up the potential victim in the member list.

ANd what about URL & image links?

[bluenoter]

M to the O-N-Easy fo' sheezy--

Please see #28. And please make the post numbers visible all the time, not just when the mouse is hovered over them.

[moneyp]

Taking 'em one at a time:

Bluenoter: Welcome back!

You're always visible to yourself (sounds very zen). The asterix next to your name indicates your invisibility. "Yesterday and today" may be held up to a vote at some point, but right now it's about 864,392nd on my list of new things to deal with in this upgrade. Sorry.

Pete, click on the person's name, and you'll see a ton of things you can do with them! Uh, so to speak. But those tons of things include PM'ing.

[moneyp]

M to the O-N-Easy fo' sheezy--

Please see #28. And please make the post numbers visible all the time, not just when the mouse is hovered over them.

Say what? I'm seeing them just fine without mouseovers. What browser are you using?

[Pete C]

Thanks, Mone. What about shortcuts to IMG & URL links? I may have added that to my query above after you saw it.

[Monte Smith]

Welcome back, Rita.

Thanks for the hard work, Mone. I'm sure this update will be fine when you get all the kinks worked out. And hey! We're all getting our money's worth.

[moneyp]

Thanks, Mone. What about shortcuts to IMG & URL links? I may have added that to my query above after you saw it.

Pete: they're in there. The IMG function is the http://www.jazzcornertalk.com/speakeasy/images/editor/insertimage.gif picture and the url function is the http://www.jazzcornertalk.com/speakeasy/images/editor/createlink.gif picture.

[bluenoter]

Moné and Monte--Thanks for the welcome! (Goody, thanks again.)

Moné--

Say what? I'm seeing them [the post numbers] just fine without mouseovers. What browser are you using?All is cool. I'm in IE6, but the problem was that I had stubbornly chosen to use my crappy lo-res blue skin despite what you said, and in that skin, the post numbers require a mouseover to be visible! So now I'm using the default skin, and I can always see the post numbers.

Likewise, BTW, when I was using a skin other than the default skin, my Post Reply form didn't show the automatic Image and Hyperlink icons, so that may be Pete's problem.

Thanks for the explanation of my new Zen invisibility, and I can certainly understand that you don't have time to deal with "Today" and "Yesterday" right now.

Pete--

See above. If you can't see the icons for Images and Hyperlinks (URLs) in the Post Reply form, get in the default skin if you're not already.

[moneyp]

Ah, alright... the other skins aren't working to well, people. I'm going to disable them. We have some brand new ones coming up very soon, so hang in there!

[GoodSpeak]

I kinda like my skin how it is...sorta off-beige.











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[bluenoter]

Moné--

All I ask is that you ultimately include one low-res or at least medium-res skin, because for me, the default is glaringly bright and harsh, and I don't want to adjust my monitor just for this site.

So far, I like what I see of the new features, by and large, and I thank you for your work too!

[moneyp]

BN: I'll at least add a darker version of this particular layout, for those finding it too bright.

[Ron Thorne]

Welcome back, Rita. We missed you.

I experienced something similar to you today when I clicked on my chosen lo-res blue skin and the post numbers virtually disappeared. They're actually there, but it's a blue-on-blue color scheme, so almost invisible until you place your cursor over it.

I agree with many who feel that the text, especially our names, is completely out of proportion, so welcome that change.

[moneyp]

Aside from the names, I think everything else is the same size. Am I missing something?

[Ron Thorne]

Aside from the names, I think everything else is the same size. Am I missing something?

Probably not, Moné. I thought that there were some other text pieces out-of-scale when I first saw the new software for the first time today, but since I can't access that particular skin now, can't confirm that.

I'm using a default skin (2, I believe) now. Are you still working on the skin options?

I wish there were a quicker, less cumbersome way to get back to the front page of a given forum without having to scroll up or down to a "go" button or the forum name at the top of the page. It's nice to have a "preview changes" feature, by the way.

[bluenoter]

Moné--

Not only our names in display type but all the text to the left of the messages is larger (including our little signature lines). The text of the messages themselves is not larger.

Re a less-bright, less-harsh skin: Can you achieve that without making it darker, just duller? The whole screen is kind of flooded with intense light, including the white areas! Anyway, please don't make it so dark that some tone-on-tone text isn't visible. But whatever--thanks!

Ron--

Thanks! I missed y'all too! I actually snuck back via Record Reviews a few days ago.

[moneyp]

I lowered the names to 12 point, but I'm hating the font.

This is the only skin available now. I can't confirm functionality for any of the other skins, which are written in a code that doesn't work with the new board, so they're gone. We'll be adding some skins that work with the new board.

BN: Flooded with intense light? I swear, there's no setting that allows me to flood the board with light. What I think it is is that there's a dominant white space on the board. If I can turn it gray, that may help. How is the blue in the actual post areas?

Keep the suggestions/problems coming, peeps. I can't promise that I'll hit everything right away, but you all give me some ideas where to look.

[bluenoter]

Moné--

Not only our names in display type but all the text to the left of the messages is larger (including our little signature lines). The text of the messages themselves is not larger.Also, I think that the measure [width] of the area/window/pane to the left of the messages is larger and that the measure [width] of the message area itself is smaller. That means more scrolling to read messages, and I'll bet it means narrower images.

[BFrank]

Yes, the width seems a little off - too wide.
Don't know if that's controllable.

[bluenoter]

BN: Flooded with intense light? I swear, there's no setting that allows me to flood the board with light. What I think it is is that there's a dominant white space on the board. If I can turn it gray, that may help. How is the blue in the actual post areas?What can I say? I don't understand these things, but it's high-res, or what I think of as high-res. It's glaringly bright (to me). If you could turn the white space (which is outside the frames) some shade of gray, that might help. And can you make the color in the actual post areas a smidgeon darker?

And as I wrote earlier, all the text in the area/window to the left of the message area is larger than it used to be, and I think that the area on the left is wider than it used to be and that the message area itself is narrower than it used to be.

[Ron Thorne]

What's the purpose of the Quick Reply feature?

I agree with bluenoter that the entire window area where our name and avatar is has grown considerably. I don't object to the overall brightness, or the font style used for our names, but it definitely does not like 12pt., more like 18pt*. The text in the message area looks like 12pt. to me.

*Edit- Moné, as you're probably aware, different fonts have considerably different size appearances, which is what I think is happening with the font used for our names. This particular font looks like USALight, which is not particularly exciting, if readable. In a similar sans serif style, I much prefer Eras demi or light.

[moneyp]

Ron, the quick reply feature (which I'm using now) is to be able to reply without having to load another screen. You just click the icon at the lower right of any post and then type in the text space in the quick reply area.

I'm trying to shrink the username area as we speak.

[Ron Thorne]

Thanks, Moné. Cool!

[moneyp]

How's that?

[moneyp]

Okay, what do y'all think of the left side now?

[Ron Thorne]

Much better, in my estimation.

[bluenoter]

Okay, what do y'all think of the left side now?

It's great! And just as important, you made the message area correspondingly wider.

And as for my glare problem with this skin, I'm thinking that changing the areas outside the frames from white to any shade of gray, however light, might be all that I'd need, if that's possible.

[Squaredancecalling Steve]

Great having you back here, Rita!

[moneyp]

It's great! And just as important, you made the message area correspondingly wider.

And as for my glare problem with this skin, I'm thinking that changing the areas outside the frames from white to any shade of gray, however light, might be all that I'd need, if that's possible.

How's that, Rita?

[Ron Thorne]

Damn, Rita's burnin' the post-midnight oil. You go, girl!

[bluenoter]

SqDC--

Thanks! It's great to be back.

Ron--

Yeah, but I gotta stop burnin' the post-midnight oil real soon.

Moné--

The gray outside the borders helps a little, but I'm afraid that the whole display is still too high-res for me. The gray isn't even displaying properly for me--on top of the gray, I see a faint penumbra of shadows that are horizontal and sort of fan out.

In the Additional Options box under the Reply form, just as an example, I see a whole rainbow of light blue, gray, and light purple shades blending into each other. And the Topic Review area seems even more glaring than the "first page." The Post Reply form, of course, is still white, and probably oughta be.

But lookit--am I the only one having this problem? Isn't it possible to just add a lo-res option when you add more skins? I really appreciate your help, but I'm beginning to feel bratty. I'd like to say that everything is better, but I can't.

A couple of other thoughts:

1. Do you want to get rid of "Number of Posts" in the window/area on the left? That's what you and Lois decided to do last time.

2. Edit: Cockamamie complaint about crookedness deleted. It's true of what I see, but it's also true of what I see on my Yahoo home page!

I really appreciate your help, and I don't mean to be a troublemaker--honest!

Edit: It's probably better to get other people's feedback anyway.

Good night, and thanks a million for the welcomes, folks!

[Ron Thorne]

The gray isn't even displaying properly for me--on top of the gray, I see a faint penumbra of shadows that are horizontal and sort of fan out.

But lookit--am I the only one having this problem?

A couple of other thoughts:

2. Okay, brace yourself: All the boxes on the screen are crooked--They tilt downward on the right. I wouldn't have thought that was possible, but I swear it's true. Look at the left margin (gray area) at the top of a page, then scroll down and look at the left margin at the bottom of a page. Doesn't it look narrower at the bottom? Or better still, go to the top of a page and look at the top of the box in relation to your browser's bars. Doesn't the box slant downward to the right?


1. I don't see the "faint penumbra of shadows" or striation of colors you mentioned ... anywhere. The gray surround looks fine to my eyes.

2. The boxes (all of them) are in proper alignment on my monitor. That's something I'm very keen about, so if they were askew (even a little bit) it would drive me up the wall. I see absolutely no tilt, whatsoever. It almost sounds like you have a problem with your monitor, Rita. How old is it? Perhaps an adjustment would help?

[moneyp]

The gray outside the borders helps a little, but I'm afraid that the whole display is still too high-res for me. The gray isn't even displaying properly for me--on top of the gray, I see a faint penumbra of shadows that are horizontal and sort of fan out.

In the Additional Options box under the Reply form, just as an example, I see a whole rainbow of light blue, gray, and light purple shades blending into each other. And the Topic Review area seems even more glaring than the "first page." The Post Reply form, of course, is still white, and probably oughta be.

BN, this is a low-res skin, so that isn't the problem. The problem is either with your monitor, or we're using a color-scheme that's playing havoc with your eyes. But we will be adding other skins, and hopefully one of them works for ya.

1. Do you want to get rid of "Number of Posts" in the window/area on the left? That's what you and Lois decided to do last time.

Yeah, those will be gone soon.

2. Okay, brace yourself: All the boxes on the screen are crooked--They tilt downward on the right. I wouldn't have thought that was possible, but I swear it's true. Look at the left margin (gray area) at the top of a page, then scroll down and look at the left margin at the bottom of a page. Doesn't it look narrower at the bottom? Or better still, go to the top of a page and look at the top of the box in relation to your browser's bars. Doesn't the box slant downward to the right?

Uh, no. There's defnitely something amiss on your end. The boxes absolutely do not tilt. The code only recognizes horizontal and vertical, not diagonal.

But welcome back!

[Squaredancecalling Steve]

>>Sorry! The administrator has specified that you can only do one search every 4 seconds.<<


Never mind that the first search seem to stall out -- one is compelled to admire the sheer authoritarian precision of the statement.

[bluenoter]

1. I don't see the "faint penumbra of shadows" or striation of colors you mentioned ... anywhere. The gray surround looks fine to my eyes.

2. The boxes (all of them) are in proper alignment on my monitor. That's something I'm very keen about, so if they were askew (even a little bit) it would drive me up the wall. I see absolutely no tilt, whatsoever. It almost sounds like you have a problem with your monitor, Rita. How old is it? Perhaps an adjustment would help?Ron--

1. My monitor is about five years old. I'll try to make some adjustments tomorrow. I'm really curious about the striations of color; they're quite pronounced, but I see them in only one place, which is the Additional Options box under the Post Peply form. Did you look there?

2. I edited my previous message to delete the whole remark about the crookedness of the boxes. Although I do perceive it, I discovered that I also perceive it on my Yahoo home page!

You seem to see things (literally) pretty much as I do, in at least some respects, so I'll let you "represent" about what changes might be improvements. Conversely, it's helpful for me to hear how you see things differently (and I really will fool with my monitor). I've really gotta quit burning the post-midnight oil right now.

[bluenoter]

Moné--

Thanks! I edited out the whole crookedness remark because I discovered that I perceive my Yahoo home page the same way. I'll fool with my monitor, and I'll gladly wait to see if any of the future skins work better for me. You've already improved some things. Thanks again.

'Night, all. It's great to be back in the Alley!

[john williams]

Hey Mone the new look and functions get the thumbs up from me.

Nice work!

[Jimmy Cantiello]

Mone, I deleted my avatar and can't download a new one. When I click on "edit avatar" it brings me to a page but there's no option offered to download a new one. Also, I selected "invisible mode" but I noticed that it doesn't work................

[Chris A]

Love it, Rita returns and immediately suffers the dreaded penumbra plague!

Welcome back from Deansville.


Mone, I love the thread-starter previews, but why do they only work on some threads?

[moneyp]

Mone, I deleted my avatar and can't download a new one. When I click on "edit avatar" it brings me to a page but there's no option offered to download a new one. Also, I selected "invisible mode" but I noticed that it doesn't work................

Jimmy, read the whole thread. Invisible mode works.

And if you scroll down on the "Edit Avatar" page, there are options to put up a new one.

[tippy]

Having Rita back is a Great new toy! Welcome back, Rita!

[tippy]

I can't figure out how to activate the quick reply option. It says "press one of the quick reply icons" or something like that when I try to activate the box but I don't know to which icons the message is referring because I've tried pressing all the icons in the vicinity of the quick reply area and always get the same message. (I'm sure this has something to do with my lack of user-friendly intuitiveness...I need a special remedial version.)

[moneyp]

Tippy, the "Quick Reply" button is this button: http://www.jazzcornertalk.com/speakeasy/images/buttons/quickreply.gif which is on the lower right hand of every post.

[moneyp]

Love it, Rita returns and immediately suffers the dreaded penumbra plague!

Welcome back from Deansville.


Mone, I love the thread-starter previews, but why do they only work on some threads?

Thread starter previews? 'Splain yourself, sir.

[tippy]

Right on. Cool feature!

[Squaredancecalling Steve]

Thread starter previews? 'Splain yourself, sir.

If you hold your cursor over the thread starter, a box appears to show you the opening lines.

[Jazzooo]

This is a test--do not panic, it is only a test.

[moneyp]

This is a test--do not panic, it is only a test.

Whoo hoo!

[Ron Thorne]

And if you scroll down on the "Edit Avatar" page, there are options to put up a new one.

Jimmy isn't the only one confused by the Edit Avatar page. I don't see those "options" you referenced, Moné. This vBulletin 3.0 page is much more vague than the previous version. I spent several minutes on the Edit Avatar page and could not find a way to either (a) upload a new avatar,or (b), use a standard one.

[tippy]

Another terrific features is thread title fade out indicating that thread has no new posts since you last visited. That's so considerate.

[moneyp]

Ah, okay... it's not available to registered users. Fixing right now!

[moneyp]

And..... done. The Edit Avatar function should be working properly now.

[Ron Thorne]

Thanks, Moné. Mo' betta!

[BFrank]

Hey, that thread preview function is pretty cool.

[BFrank]

... and so is the "Quick Reply" window. A definite plus!

[bluenoter]

Chris and Tippy--

Hiya! Thanks for the welcomes!

Moné--

First, I find that I have no problem with glare or brightness in natural daylight, whereas at night, the problem persists no matter how I adjust my monitor. C'est la vie. By day, at least, the default skin is looking mighty handsome.

Second, you fixed several things before I or anyone else could even bring them up, one such thing being the out-of-control rows of page numbers at the top of long threads. Thanks!

In case you're running out of things to fix, :)

1. We have a tantalizing new menu of fonts, but only the same few fonts as before are enabled. Could you enable some or all of the other fonts?

2. We have two new options for thread displays: threaded and hybrid. But if I'm not mistaken, we can't use them unless you add a Reply button to each post. Is that in the cards?

Thanks again!

[moneyp]

BN: You can't use all the fonts? What happens when you try? So far as I can tell, they're all enabled.

As for the thread displays you can reply in all of them. You'll notice in the threaded display, that the Quick Reply window is automatically active.

[moneyp]

Arial
Arial Black
Arial Narrow
Book Antiqua

Just testing....

[bluenoter]

Garamond--NOT ACTIVE?

Georgia--NOT ACTIVE?

Trebuchet MS--NOT ACTIVE?

Okay, am I losing my mind? Each of the three lines above is supposed to be in the named font as well as bold and size 3. Moné, can you look at my coding? What the hell am I doing wrong?

Century Gothic--okay

Fixedsys--okay

Franklin Gothic Medium--NOT ACTIVE?

Lucida Sans Unicode--okay

And so on.

[Ron Thorne]

Ok, bn, here are all 21 fonts displayed in size 3, standard weight. Do these look normal on your computer? They do on mine. The word choice was random, by the way. :-)

Your sample post #88 looked ok to me, too. If you're concerned about the slight variation in size/weight from font-to-font, don't be. That's normal. The very design of each font causes those variations when constructed, then assembled as words.


Testicles-Arial
Testicles-Arial Black
Testicles-Arial Narrow
Testicles-Book Antiqua
Testicles-Comic Sans MS
Testicles-Courier New
Testicles-Fixedsys
Testicles-Franklin Gothic Medium
Testicles-Georgia
Testicles-Impact
Testicles-Lucida Console
Testicles-Microsoft Sans Serif
Testicles-Palatino Linotype
Testicles-System
Testicles-Tahoma
Testicles-Times New Roman
Testicles-Trebuchet MS
Testicles-Verdana

[moneyp]

BN, your fonts look fine from here. I think they're not active in your browser.

[Chris A]

Apparently, several fonts are here in name only:

Arial
Arial Black
Arial Narrow
Book Antiqua
Century Gothic
Comic Sans MS
Courier New
Fixedsys
Franklin Gothic Medium
Garamond
Georgia
Impact
Lucida Console
Lucida Sans Unicode
Microsoft Sans Serif
Palatino Linotype
System
Tahoma
Times New Roman
Trebuchet MS
Verdana

[moneyp]

Again, Chris's fonts all look fine on my PC. Maybe you should make sure your precious Safari has them all, Chris! :-)

[moneyp]

It should be noted that not all fonts come in all sizes, especially the largest sizes. But for size 3, they all should have a different appearance.

[bluenoter]

Thanks. Some of the fonts, whether chosen by Chris, Ron, or me, are showing up for me as being identical to each other. My browser is IE6, for cripe's sake. I never heard of fonts being inactive in a browser, much less in the mother of all browsers. How do I activate more fonts in my browser?

As for the thread display options, let's see if I have this correct: We can reply to a specific post using the Quick Reply button, which indeed appears on each post. But you'll notice that the Quick Reply posting form omits most of the format options, so we can't use those format options to reply to specific posts (other than the last post). Would it be hard to add a "full-fledged" Reply button to each post?

[Chris A]

The colors are all active, but must be entered without spaces, as in palegreen.

Black
Sienna
Dark Olive Green
Dark Green
Dark Slate Blue
Navy
Indigo
Dark Slate Gray
Dark Red
Dark Orange
Olive
Green
Teal
Blue
Slate Gray
Dim Gray
Red
Sandy Brown
Yellow Green
Sea Green
Medium Turquoise
Royal Blue
Purple
Gray
Magenta
Orange
Yellow
Lime
Cyan
Deep Sky Blue
Dark Orchid
Silver
Pink
Wheat
Lemon Chiffon
Pale Green
Pale Turquoise
Light Blue
Plum
White

[bluenoter]

Chris, I didn't try all the colors, but if I select Pale Green, the code comes out without spaces automatically. Are you selecting from the color chart and clicking on the color of your choice, or are you typing in the color codes manually? If the latter, why bother? :)

It was valiant of you to try out the colors. I'm still fussing over the fonts.

[Chris A]

Rita, when you select color from the drop-down menu, it is placed at the end of your text. I tend to want more control, so I do it manually--ditto fonts, images, etc.

Of course I take full advantage of such shortcuts as dragging text around, duplicating text, etc.

[moneyp]

As for the thread display options, let's see if I have this correct: We can reply to a specific post using the Quick Reply button, which indeed appears on each post. But you'll notice that the Quick Reply posting form omits most of the format options, so we can't use those format options to reply to specific posts (other than the last post). Would it be hard to add a "full-fledged" Reply button to each post?

Than you would use the "Quote" button, which is in each post, and allows you all the formatting options.

[Chris A]

Again, Chris's fonts all look fine on my PC. Maybe you should make sure your precious Safari has them all, Chris! :-)

My Safari, though it is indeed precious, does not have its own fonts, but I have close to 2000 installed and about 400 activated at any given time. I did not know that the BBs drew upon my own font sources--is that really so?

[moneyp]

No, the BBS simply inserts code when you post which references a style sheet, which references common True Type fonts, that all the large browsers should already have installed.

[moneyp]

Here's a way to check which fonts are on your system. Go to C:\WINDOWS\FONTS or C:\WINNT\FONTS

I'm not sure where the font directory is offhand on the Mac.

Each font should be viewable by double-clicking on it, and it should show all the sizes that the font is available in.

[bluenoter]

Rita, when you select color from the drop-down menu, it is placed at the end of your text. I tend to want more control, so I do it manually--ditto fonts, images, etc.Chris--

Not anymore! You're going to be a happy and less-overworked camper in our new system, vBulletin 3.0 (unless your browser is an impediment)!

1. Get in Enhanced Mode (not Guided Mode)--the selection is just above the blank posting form.

2. Now try out all the format codes that you used to insert manually. Click a code at the point that you want it to open, and click it again at the point that you want it to close (or use Close Current Tag, but clicking the code again is foolproof). Voila! The codes now work intuitively, opening and closing where they oughta!

Moné--

Thanks. Developing . . . :)

Edit: Developing after I get out in the sunshine for a while.

[moneyp]

No problem, BN. And hey, even I was missing a font, Franklin Gothic Medium which can be downloaded here (http://www.webpagepublicity.com/free-fonts-f3.html) along with a bunch of other fonts.

[Jimmy Cantiello]

Jimmy, read the whole thread. Invisible mode works.

And if you scroll down on the "Edit Avatar" page, there are options to put up a new one.

Mone, I see the options for editing an avatar now but yesterday they weren't there. Maybe it was a problem on my end. Also, the only reason I thought the invisible mode was not working is because I can see my name as being online along with all the others. The only difference is my name has an asterisk after it. I'm assuming other users can't see my name. Thanks for your help............http://www.jazzcornertalk.com/speakeasy/images/icons/icon14.gif

[moneyp]

Mone, I see the options for editing an avatar now but yesterday they weren't there. Maybe it was a problem on my end. Also, the only reason I thought the invisible mode was not working is because I can see my name as being online along with all the others. The only difference is my name has an asterisk after it. I'm assuming other users can't see my name. Thanks for your help............http://www.jazzcornertalk.com/speakeasy/images/icons/icon14.gif
Jimmy, a change was made, so that's why you're seeing it today. And regarding the invisibility, you assume correctly. Glad to be of help, sir.

Hey everybody, if you want the absolute coolest in functionality, go to your User CP, click on Edit Options and scroll all the way to the bottom, to "Miscellaneous Editor Interface." Change that from "Standard Editor" (the default) to "Enhanced WYSIWYG Editor" and save the changes.

Then you will see all of the nifty options you can use in posting a reply.

[moneyp]

We have automatic numbering, folks.
Isn't that cool?



Bullets, too!
I love bullets.
And of course, you can tab text as well, to start anywhere within the thread that you like.

Right alignment. Why would anyone want to do this?

Center alignment is kind of keen, though.

Ah, and my beloved new Franklin Gothic Medium. :-)

[Valerie]

I'm liking it too, Mone, especially as I get used to it since I'm not generally "big" on changes. Must be my advanced age!! LOL!!

What I really love is that I can now easily get New Posts. It used to be a very "iffy" thing where it would tell me that there were none since my last posting when it wasn't true. Really like the consistency of this now and hope it continues.

One "problem" I'm having though is that in the Personal Messages, it is indicating that I have an "unread post" when I don't - as far as I can see. Is it possible for you to look into it when you get a chance? I certainly wouldn't want to "nut" on receiving/responding to a message!

Thanks muchly and y'all are to be commended!

[moneyp]

Val, thanks for the compliments.

PM me your password so I can log on and see what's up.

[Ron Thorne]

Rita, you may want to consider "losing" IE6 in favor of a browser with more functionality and fewer security risks. I've been using (as has Moné) Mozilla's latest brainchild, Mozilla Firefox, which is a quick, FREE download. It's a terrific, feature-packed browser.

http://www.mozilla.org/images/mlogo.gif

Here's the link (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/). I highly recommend visiting their site and checking out the features and rave reviews, at the very least. Ask Moné what he thinks of this new browser.

[moneyp]

Ask Moné what he thinks of this new browser.
I want to have kittens with it, I love it so much. The problem with browsers other than Internet Explorer is that a lot of sites specifically designed for IE don't work very well with them, but so far Firefox has handled all of them with hardly any problem, way better than any other browser I've used, including Mozilla's previous offerings. In some cases, it handles them even better than IE would. If you're on Windows, you need to keep IE installed for functionality purposes, but you'll rarely use it. I consider this the first suitable replacement for IE, and if there's any justice in the world, it will become the pre-eminent Internet-wide browser, and the standard to be measured against. It's that good.

[bluenoter]

Rita, you may want to consider "losing" IE6 in favor of a browser with more functionality and fewer security risks. I've been using (as has Moné) Mozilla's latest brainchild, Mozilla Firefox, which is a quick, FREE download. It's a terrific, feature-packed browser.

http://www.mozilla.org/images/mlogo.gif

Here's the link (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/). I highly recommend visiting their site and checking out the features and rave reviews, at the very least. Ask Moné what he thinks of this new browser.Ron, IE is so basic to my experience of the Internet that I want to stick to the status quo. I do have Windows, so I'd apparently have to keep IE around, and the idea of having to choose from more than one browser (or hoping that Windows chooses correctly) boggles my mind. (I must be the ideal brainwashed Microsoft customer.) But thanks for the presentation (and thanks for the endorsement, M.)! The time may come when I'm both more knowledgeable and more frustrated with IE.

On to trying to add fonts--which, BTW, must be an OS matter, not a browser matter, right? It's not that IE doesn't recognize some fonts; it's that my version of Windows didn't come with those fonts.

[moneyp]

On to trying to add fonts--which, BTW, must be an OS matter, not a browser matter, right? It's not that IE doesn't recognize some fonts; it's that my version of Windows didn't come with those fonts.
Exactamundo.

[Jazzzoline]

Ok, I just changed my avatar ( it gave me the nausea ). Now, How do I change the text above or under it : " Dontcha like toenails" ?

[moneyp]

It's available now Jazzy, under "Edit Profile."

[Jazzzoline]

Ok, Thanks

[Ron Thorne]

Jazzzoline, I really like your new avatar!

bluenoter, I fully understand that "comfort zone" thang. I'm certainly no computer tech or guru, but have found Firefox to be extraordinarily user-friendly ... and cool. If you get itchy and care to check it out some time in the future, send me a PM or e-mail and I'll try to assist if you'd like.

Damn, this upgraded vBulletin software is light years ahead of the original version to which we'd become accustomed. Spoiled once again!

[Ron Thorne]

I did what you suggested in post #105, Moné, but it will take me a while to assimilate and appreciate some of the changes.

• I'm not sure what Remove Text Formatting will do for me. Oh, now I see, and I like it!

• I've noticed that it's very sluggish when you place your cursor over an icon, before we see a descriptive.

• I've always had bullets available, Moné ... Alt+149. Where are they here?

• I don't know what an "Ordered" or "Unordered List" is.

• I've never understood the "Wrap" and "Tag" prompts.

I really don't like smilies, so please consider this gesture a very generous tip o' the hat! http://jazzcornertalk.com/speakeasy/images/icons/icon6.gif

[mke]

Hey everybody, if you want the absolute coolest in functionality, go to your User CP, click on Edit Options and scroll all the way to the bottom, to "Miscellaneous Editor Interface." Change that from "Standard Editor" (the default) to "Enhanced WYSIWYG Editor" and save the changes.You're right, it's awesome! When you copy formatted text into the text area, the formatting stays! Fantastic!

Ron,

Unordered lists show up as bullets (or other types of signs) while ordered lists are made up of differentiated, ordered symbols: 1, 2, 3; a, b, c; i, ii, iii etc.

[Jazzzoline]

[QUOTE=Ron Thorne]Jazzzoline, I really like your new avatar!

QUOTE]

Thanks. It's part of 2004 Montréal Jazz fest Logo.

[Ron Thorne]

Moné, apparently there's a problem with the new software with respect to attachments. As you probably know, jmj has been having difficulties on the Favorite Mountain Photos thread, so I thought I'd try a test tonight with two separate attachments.

• Neither attachment was included in my post.
• Apparently, there's a new (inexplicable) 39.1kB limit, down from the already smaller-than-a-normal-4x6-print limit.
• One of my images (my avatar) was 100x100 pixels, the other, reduced to 38.5kB.
• I went into my attachment area and tried to remove the two images which are shown as an Attachment In Progress, and was unable to delete them. I tried unsuccessfully four times.

[moneyp]

Ron: that's the same size limit that was on the old site. It comes out to 40,000 bytes, because I was too lazy to do the math to get it to a real 40kb. I've raised it to an even 40k, which should be more than enough for a web resolution. I'll see what I can do about your attachments in progress.

[Ron Thorne]

Moné, it's likely that it's my lack of understanding of all of the dynamics at play here, including Pixel Size and Resolution (nominally set at 72 pixels), etc. which are complicating part of my picture. However, even after meeting the size requirements, my images were not uploaded. Why?

The bottom line for me is simple when I upload an image of mine.

• Maximum resolution, which to me as a photographer has only one meaning ... sharpness/clarity. Perhaps there's a semantic problem here with the word "resolution".

• Maximum possible size, so that the image can be appreciated. If it's smaller and less crisp than a typical print from Wal-Mart, what's the point?

If there are any guidelines you can share in this regard, it would likely be helpful to many here, including me.

[Ron Thorne]

I'm really not trying to overload you with tasks, but you asked for us to provide input, so here's another problem area, apparently. I haven't been able to properly utilize the search feature since the new software was installed. I keep getting messages indicating that there's no such thread subject, when I know there is because I created it, and found it by looking page-by-page, after becoming frustrated.

Example: Fly Fishing (in The Alley)

[moneyp]

I've queried the software designers regarding our search function issue.

Ron, I'm not sure why your images weren't uploaded. They're not showing up on the admin side, so PM me your password so I can take a look.

As for the imposed limits, 400x400 is large enough. On an 800x600 resolution monitor, that's half the screen. If I could set linked image size to that limit, I'd do it. If you want everyone to see a bigger picture, you can find plenty of photo hosting sites that will store it for you and you can link to it.

As for the actual file size in kilobytes, keep in mind that everyone who accesses the page essentially downloads the picture into their cache, so limiting the file size keeps the pages running faster and keeps the bandwidth down.

[moneyp]

And just an FYI, the usual standard for web images is 72 ppi (pixels per inch).

How big each pixel appears on a monitor depends on the monitor's dpi (dots per inch) resolution. Most monitors run at a standard 96 dpi, but some older Macs are in the 72-dpi range.

[moneyp]

Ron, which attachments were you trying to delete?

[Ron Thorne]

As for the imposed limits, 400x400 is large enough. On an 800x600 resolution monitor, that's half the screen. If I could set linked image size to that limit, I'd do it. If you want everyone to see a bigger picture, you can find plenty of photo hosting sites that will store it for you and you can link to it.

As for the actual file size in kilobytes, keep in mind that everyone who accesses the page essentially downloads the picture into their cache, so limiting the file size keeps the pages running faster and keeps the bandwidth down.
I'm even less certain than you as to why my images weren't uploaded, especially since I saw all of the telltale signs that things were good, such as icons indicating that they were loaded.

• You stated that you like bullets, so ...

• I agree that, in principal, 400x400 pixels should be large enough, but that's not been my experience, as you well know. Simply setting my maximum size (within Photoshop, for instance) to 400 pixels has never proven satisfactory. There are other ingredients as I alluded to in an earlier post above. Those need to be discussed, too.

• How about showing us the many ways in which we could best utilize uploading of images within a limit of 400x400 pixels? Details are essential here.

• I still don't think that you fully understand my complaint regarding the size of images which are attachments on JC. I'm not simply looking for BIG, nor do I feel that I should seek an independent hosting site to accomplish what seems to be a rather routine task right here.

• I'm all for preserving bandwidth for Jazz Corner, as you may have noted on previous threads.

[Ron Thorne]

Ron, which attachments were you trying to delete?
The only two shown (and made today) were never attached to anything ... yet they've mysteriously disappeared. How were they deleted?

For the record, they were jpeg files including my 100x100 pixel avatar. The other image was the one below, which I reduced in size several times in order to comply.

[Ron Thorne]

And just an FYI, the usual standard for web images is 72 ppi (pixels per inch).

How big each pixel appears on a monitor depends on the monitor's dpi (dots per inch) resolution. Most monitors run at a standard 96 dpi, but some older Macs are in the 72-dpi range.
That standard (72 ppi/dpi) utilized w/Photoshop, along with a known restriction of 400x400 pixels, has not been sufficient for me to avoid the complications and frustrations about which I've complained, dammit. I'm hip to all of that, yet it still hasn't meant that I can relax and enjoy the moment.

More detail is desired.

[moneyp]

• I agree that, in principal, 400x400 pixels should be large enough, but that's not been my experience, as you well know. Simply setting my maximum size (within Photoshop, for instance) to 400 pixels has never proven satisfactory. There are other ingredients as I alluded to in an earlier post above. Those need to be discussed, too.
Okay, so what you're saying is that you've tried to upload a picture within the supposed limits and it told you it was too large? Am I reading you right?

• How about showing us the many ways in which we could best utilize uploading of images within a limit of 400x400 pixels? Details are essential here.
Maybe you could give me a specific problem you're having, and I can propose a solution instead. Keep in mind, high-res print quality photos (in the 200 dpi range) that get lowered to 72 dpi aren't going to look great.

[Ron Thorne]

Okay, so what you're saying is that you've tried to upload a picture within the supposed limits and it told you it was too large? Am I reading you right?


Maybe you could give me a specific problem you're having, and I can propose a solution instead. Keep in mind, high-res print quality photos (in the 200 dpi range) that get lowered to 72 dpi aren't going to look great.
Yes to the first supposition, in a general sense.

I'll have to deal with more of this tomorrow, since I'm too tired, frustrated, and anxious about more important things.

Thanks, Moné.

[moneyp]

Fair enough, Ron. Sorry it's been frustrating for you.

For anyone looking for some free image editors, here are a few recommended:

GIMP (http://www.gimp.org/) is probably the best of the lot. It does a lot (maybe most) of the things Photoshop can do, it works on all platforms, is always being updated with plugins, and it's free.

IrFanView (http://www.irfanview.com/) If you don't want to worry about layers and only want a simple, free image editor, this one will most likely server your needs.

And, if you don't want to download anything, you can always edit your images at MyImager.com (http://www.myimager.com/)

[mke]

Hmm, the much-vaunted WYSIWYG is kind of glitchy (carrying on the long WYSIWYG tradition, I guess...).

[moneyp]

Hmm, the much-vaunted WYSIWYG is kind of glitchy (carrying on the long WYSIWYG tradition, I guess...).
Hey, what you see is...

The admin controls mention that the WYSIWYG panel may be problematic on some machines, which is why I didn't make it the default.

[Sergio Zamora]

I like how the tooltips show the first message of the thread (by hovering over the thread title), but it'd be kinda cooler if it showed the last message instead.

[clinthopson]

The only two shown (and made today) were never attached to anything ... yet they've mysteriously disappeared. How were they deleted?

For the record, they were jpeg files including my 100x100 pixel avatar. The other image was the one below, which I reduced in size several times in order to comply.


Thorny we've got to get together and discuss the care and feeding of facial hair.

[Ron Thorne]

Thorny we've got to get together and discuss the care and feeding of facial hair.
We may be able to arrange that, Clint. I've learned a great deal about both aspects over the past few decades.

[Gentle Giant]

Is the Quick Reply feature supposed to automatically quote the last post? Seems to me the first couple of times I used it, it didn't happen, but now it happens all the time. I prefer it not to happen, or at least to have the choice.

Piling on,

GG

[Ron Thorne]

Is the Quick Reply feature supposed to automatically quote the last post? Seems to me the first couple of times I used it, it didn't happen, but now it happens all the time. I prefer it not to happen, or at least to have the choice.

Piling on,

GG
No, that's not my understanding. There are two similar icons in the lower right of a post, one larger than the other, with the word "Quote".http://jazzcornertalk.com/speakeasy/images/buttons/reply_small.gif That's the one I clicked on to make this post. To the right of the Quote icon is a smaller one, which is the Quick Reply button, and doesn't quote anything, it just provides an immediate window for responding below.http://jazzcornertalk.com/speakeasy/images/buttons/quickreply.gif

I hope this helps, GG.

[moneyp]

You'll note that below the Quick Reply box is a little checkbox that says "Quote message in reply?" If that's checked, you'll quote the message of whatever box you clicked the Quick Reply button in.

Hey, you all can do me a favor. Try out the search function and let me know how it's working. I started a rebuild of our search index, but the server timed out in the middle of it and I don't know if it ever completed.

[mjb]

... Try out the search function and let me know how it's working. I started a rebuild of our search index, but the server timed out in the middle of it and I don't know if it ever completed.Moné, I tried a couple of one word searches and a) it worked and v) was mfing fast!

[Sergio Zamora]

Hey, you all can do me a favor. Try out the search function and let me know how it's working. I started a rebuild of our search index, but the server timed out in the middle of it and I don't know if it ever completed.
Fast as hell! Hey, you know the little popup to do a quick search? Any way you can make it return the posts instead of the threads. In the advance, you have a radio button, but none on the quick search (afaik).

[moneyp]

It is indeed fast, but I don't think the index is complete. Ron's fly fishing thread still doesn't come up. I'll do another rebuild this weekend.

[john williams]

Yes, the whole board seems to be faster, even on my crappy dial up at home.

[john williams]

Rita, you may want to consider "losing" IE6 in favor of a browser with more functionality and fewer security risks. I've been using (as has Moné) Mozilla's latest brainchild, Mozilla Firefox, which is a quick, FREE download. It's a terrific, feature-packed browser.

http://www.mozilla.org/images/mlogo.gif

Here's the link (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/). I highly recommend visiting their site and checking out the features and rave reviews, at the very least. Ask Moné what he thinks of this new browser.


I agree Ron, since using Firefox 8 point something, I've stopped using IE altogether. I love the "Open in new tab" function. With IE 6 you have to open a new window, which seems inefficient to me.

[Ron Thorne]

I agree Ron, since using Firefox 8 point something, I've stopped using IE altogether. I love the "Open in new tab" function.
Glad that you're diggin' it, JBW. It's an awesome browser, and damned user-friendly, too.

Thanks for noting that my Fly Fishing thread is not being called up by the Search function, Moné. I was attempting to locate another recent Alley thread today, unsuccessfully. I don't recall the thread title, but it was related to motorcycles and riding. I remember that Scott Dolan and claude contributed substantially, along with a few others. I was unable to locate it using Advanced Search features, even after inserting many different key words.

[Ron Thorne]

It is indeed fast, but I don't think the index is complete. Ron's fly fishing thread still doesn't come up. I'll do another rebuild this weekend. Mone-

It may be a moot point if you're able to restore everything in the index, but I discovered another thread which the Search feature didn't find ... BushWatch-2004 (http://jazzcornertalk.com/speakeasy/showthread.php?t=4004).

Curiously, when I inserted bushwatch in the Search feature it turned up only BushWatch-2003. When I entered bushwatch-2004, it turned up nothing.

Overall, this new software is splendid, however.

[moneyp]

Yeah, the search index is not complete. I'll give it an entire rebuild this weekend.

[Gentle Giant]

You'll note that below the Quick Reply box is a little checkbox that says "Quote message in reply?" If that's checked, you'll quote the message of whatever box you clicked the Quick Reply button in.

Here's the thing: at home on my PC, the Quick Reply works fine. At work, on my Mac, I get it quoted regardless of whether I've checked that box or not. For some reason, it doesn't work right on Macs.

[moneyp]

How odd. What browser are you using, GG? And are you on Jaguar or Panther? If you say 9.x, I'm having nothing to do with you. :-)

[Gentle Giant]

IE on both platforms; and yes, on the Mac I'm not yet on OS X but apparently will be at some point (probably when XI comes out!).

[Ron Thorne]

It would appear that vBulletin Version 3.0.0 did not make any adjustment for Daylight Saving Time. Do we need to adjust our clock in User CP?

GG, could we interest you in a new browser? :-)

[moneyp]

I set the adjustment for Daylight Savings Time. Should be working now. Sorry 'bout that.

GG, Panther is pretty tits. Since it will hopefully be a while before Mac jumps to a new OS, it's not a bad time to make the change.

[bluenoter]

GG, Panther is pretty tits.Say what? Is that an expression these days? :confused:

[moneyp]

Yeah, I picked that one up from a co-worker. "Tits" means really good. Of course, the word itself refers to those cute little birds, not anything else.

[bluenoter]

Yeah, I picked that one up from a co-worker. "Tits" means really good. Of course, the word itself refers to those cute little birds, not anything else.Of course! Here's a nice pair.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/wildfacts/factfiles/picpops/images/tit06.jpg

[moneyp]

That is a fabulous pair of tits you've shown us, Rita.

[bluenoter]

That is a fabulous pair of tits you've shown us, Rita.Well, we could go on and on, but I think I'd better end this early. (See? I couldn't even say "nip it in the bud.") I did, however, immortalize your post #157 in Memorable Quotes from Posts.

[Jon Abbey]

I set the adjustment for Daylight Savings Time. Should be working now. Sorry 'bout that.

my GMT-5 still says 9 PM now, and it should say 10 PM.

[moneyp]

Well, we could go on and on, but I think I'd better end this early. (See? I couldn't even say "nip it in the bud.") I did, however, immortalize your post #157 in Memorable Quotes from Posts.
Whoo hoo! That's two entries. My genius is finally being recognized.

[bluenoter]

my GMT-5 still says 9 PM now, and it should say 10 PM.I'm on the East Coast too, and mine is fine. From the bottom of the page: "All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:09 PM" (and it is 10:09 PM).

[moneyp]

Jon, should be set right on your end now. Folks, if it's still off for some of you, speak up.

[Jon Abbey]

thanks, Mone!

[moneyp]

Okay, folks, I rebuilt the search index. Give it a try and let me know how it flies.

[mjb]

Okay, folks, I rebuilt the search index. Give it a try and let me know how it flies.

Search for Wesseltoft does not find Wesseltoft's.

Search for Wesseltoft's gets no results.

Is there a wildcard operator?

[stonemonkts]

Mone - The search function works swell. Whatever you did worked (at least for me).

[bluenoter]

I haven't tried the search engine, but thanks for getting rid of Yesterday and Today as posting dates!

[mke]

Hey, when typing a quick reply, alt+s is a shortcut to post.

[Ron Thorne]

Moné, I just noticed that my time setting is incorrect. It's an hour behind, as if DST isn't being factored in, but I haven't changed any settings in my Users CP. It's showing as GMT -8 hours, which should be correct, but the time displayed is an hour off (GMT -9).

[moneyp]

Ron, for whatever reason, you weren't set to automatically detect DST. I've corrected that.

[Ron Thorne]

Ron, for whatever reason, you weren't set to automatically detect DST. I've corrected that. Moné, do I need to change anything in my settings? The time shown is still an hour behind.

This time setting error occurred sometime today. It's been fine until now.

[moneyp]

Ron, I set you to -8:00. Are you normally on PST, or one hour behind that?

[Ron Thorne]

The time is correct now, Moné. We're one hour behind PST.

However, as I indicated above, it showed that I was set to GMT-8, which is correct, but the time wasn't. Now it shows that I'm at GMT -7 but the time is correct. I'm confused, but that's not a difficult task.

GMT time is 7:24:10 am as I hit Post.

[Ron Thorne]

Sorry to be a pest on this time issue, Moné, but something's still not right. I just restarted our computer and it's now indicating GMT -8, yet the time does NOT reflect that. GMT -8 is correct for us in Alaska now, but it's 12:30 am not 11:30 am.

[moneyp]

Howzit look now, Ron?

[Ron Thorne]

Howzit look now, Ron?
It's correct! Thanks, Moné.

[mjb]

Search for Wesseltoft does not find Wesseltoft's.

Search for Wesseltoft's gets no results.

Is there a wildcard operator?

Mone

Any idea about this?

Michael

[moneyp]

Nope. Where's the Wesseltoft thread?

[frankenmeister7]

i take it that this is the response to mones announcement of his changing of the board and the new look of jazz corner.

first of all, i never knew that mone was part of the staff here. maybe because i haven't visited jc in over 1 1/2 years more or less. even when i do this place gets a new look every six months. this time it took awile to finger on how to post.

i like the simplification of when jc first started right after JCS went off the air. then again beggers can't be choosers.

other than that it seems pretty simple. one aggrevating complaint like most is how to get a avator. smiley face and simple pictures, like y'all.

Sooooo.....mone this place is cool but will somebody please give me an educated break an inform if i need to go to jc school or what. i still haven't figured out how to avator my name page. what a bummer as my son would say.

frank

[mjb]

Nope. Where's the Wesseltoft thread?Right ... it's in Jazztronica Redux - http://jazzcornertalk.com/speakeasy/showthread.php?t=1283

[bluenoter]

Moné--

You know how you fixed the page number arrays at the top and bottom of forums and long threads so that they wouldn't sprawl out indefinitely on the right? Well, they somehow got unfixed. Could you please fix them again? Know what I mean, jellybean?

[moneyp]

Yeah, I noticed. I'm working with the vBulletin people on this. Have patience.

[bluenoter]

Thanks, Mo. (Cheez--I would have deleted my O/T post in the hockey thread myself.) ;)

[Pete C]

I don't know if this was addressed yet, but have we lost the admin options on threads we start, like correcting typos in thread titles?

[moneyp]

Pete, you didn't have those options pre-upgrade. Were they there after the upgrade?

[bluenoter]

Pete, you didn't have those options pre-upgrade. Were they there after the upgrade?Answering for Pete--

Yes, we did, before the upgrade. (I mean the upgrade to vBulletin 3.0.) Maybe we weren't intended to have them, but we did, and some of us figured out how to use them. At the lower right corner of each forum's thread menu page (IIRC) was a drop-down menu called something like Administrative Options, and through a submenu called something like Editing Options, we could access a special Edit form that would allow us to

-- correct typos in the titles of threads that we had started

-- delete threads that we had started, even if they contained posts by other people (which at least once proved to be a very handy safety valve for the thread starter)

--and possibly do other things that I forget.

Several of us did those things, honest!

We haven't had those options since the upgrade because the drop-down menu called something like Administrative Options no longer appears (to us).

[moneyp]

You sneaky kids.

Well, I'll see what I can do as far as restoring the ability for people to change their own thread titles and such, but not having known about it in the first place (and so far not having seen any options in the permissions list), I can't promise anything. But I'll look around.

[Ron Thorne]

My memory of this feature is exactly the opposite of bluenoter's. I remember the Administrative Options area at the bottom of the page being pointed out to me by someone after the upgrade. I distinctly remember accidentally clicking on them in the earlier incarnation and being denied access. Now those words are not even visible to me, let alone an accessible link.

[bluenoter]

I will search for posts referring to using those options--we discussed them a bit and instructed each other--and will thereby prove that Father Thorne is mistaken about the time frame. ;)

First, not all of the submenus under Administrative Options (or whatever) worked; only the Editing Options submenu worked. Second, whereas several of us used the "secret powers," I remember that Chris couldn't. Ron, if you couldn't either, maybe the problem was you guys' browsers!

But indeed, no Administrative Options drop-down menu appears now.

[bluenoter]

--Deleting a thread:

See #3, #4, and #5 (from December 2003) (http://www.jazzcornertalk.com/speakeasy/showthread.php?p=109969&highlight=delete+thread#post109969) (contains instructions)

See #4, #5, and #6--GoodSpeak discovers a secret power (from October 2003)! (http://www.jazzcornertalk.com/speakeasy/showthread.php?p=85917&highlight=delete+thread#post85917)

--Editing a thread title:

See whole thread (#1 through #12)--Uli changes a thread title, others (including Ron and Moné) comment (from October 2003) (http://www.jazzcornertalk.com/speakeasy/showthread.php?t=2992&page=1&pp=10&highlight=thread+title)

[Ron Thorne]

I stand corrected, I think. Bluenoter, please refer to the 2nd word in my post #188. Some shit just ain't the same during the aging process. I should have known better than to get you on a Search mission. :-)

Edited to reflect yet another senior moment.

[moneyp]

By the way, bn, there were only 10 posts, not 12 in Uli's thread, and Moné's post was nowhere to be found. Curious, huh?
There's a second page, Ron. :-)

[Pete C]

Mone, how come the quote button now says "reply"? The old reply at the end of the page still replies without quoting, but it's rather confusing now, as evidenced by the thread on the women's march on Washington.

[moneyp]

I'm missing something, Pete. I still have "Edit" and "Quote" in the messages, not "Reply."

[gnhrtg]

Mone, you might but I, for one, most certianly don't.

edit: I have "edit" and "reply" - where "reply" quotes.

[moneyp]

Sorry, I just opened it up in a different browser and I can see what you're talking about.

Good question! I just upgraded to 3.0.1, but that seems like an odd change to me. I'll see if I can switch 'er back.

[moneyp]

Done!

[gnhrtg]

That was quick, Mone, thanks.

[chuckyd4]

Not entirely sure if I'm talking about the same thing here, but this is a (admittedly minor) glitch I'm having. In my PM's, I can't seem to find a "Reply" button anywhere. I've taken to just hitting "Quote", but with the character limit, if I forget to erase the quoted message, this gets to be a little annoying each time.

Any way to get a straight up "Reply" (without quoting) in the PM section? Is it just me?

[moneyp]

Not just you, Chuck. One of the oddball decisions made in the new upgrade. Just remember to kill the quote.

[tippy]

This version loads more slowly for me. And has too many select buttons that get accidentally pressed when I'm in the middle of my posts. End of gripe.

[Enforcer]

The only major problem with the board, and it is easily the biggest concern in the history of the Internet, is the fact that it won't allow Chris A to fix the title of his thread. Which thread? Well, the one that includes the word, "behaviortreatment," of course. I'm sure everyone knows about that thread, because we see it on the main page every day and have to resist the urge to fly into a MURDEROUS RAGE over the sight of that typo each and every day.

This is not a complaint, by the way. Nor a call to have someone fix it. Not at all.

Lying,
Larry

[moneyp]

I would've fixed it, but I kinda like it. "Behaviortreatment." Sounds very Orwellian.

[Enforcer]

Goddamn, power wielding moderators...‡




‡ Generalization does not apply when Larry Nagel is the moderator in question

[moneyp]

Yeah, I should come over to LGW and start bitching. It's too red! Don't you people know anything about ocular comfort levels?

[Enforcer]

You'd be banned in short order for that. We don't tolerate that kind of behaviortreatment at LGW.

Thoughtcrime, baby.

Larry

[Ron Thorne]

Moné, were you able to complete the work on the JC search feature? I ask because I was unable to find a known thread today in The Alley, so had to scan eight pages to eventually find it.

Thanks.

[moneyp]

Ron, there may be a few holes in there. Unfortunately, the fix is a several hour process, so, uh.... if the holes aren't too big....

[Ron Thorne]

That's cool. I understand that it was/is an arduous process. I guess I'm more flustered when it works on a given day/week and not another for the same thread title.

[Ron Thorne]

For some unknown reason, the JC clock is one hour behind today. I'm pretty certain that is was correct yesterday. Anyone else notice a discrepancy? Mine is set for GMT -9 Alaska.

[Jazzzoline]

For some unknown reason, the JC clock is one hour behind today. I'm pretty certain that is was correct yesterday. Anyone else notice a discrepancy? Mine is set for GMT -9 Alaska.
The same here.. -4 here. I checked the user CP options and it's set to GMT -5 with automatic DST detection

[bluenoter]

The same here. . . . I checked the user CP options and it's set to GMT -5 with automatic DST detectionYep, I have the same settings and the same problem. The clock reads 9ish when it should read 10ish.

[Enforcer]

Let's go, Moneyp. Get it fixed!

A demanding prick,
Larry

[Jazzzoline]

Where is Moné when we need him?

[Enforcer]

My best guess: On a hammock out in the back yard at his new digs, pink tropical drink (complete with umbrella) in hand, enjoying the beautiful outdoors in his Detroit Red Wings Kirk Maltby t-shirt.

Larry

[moneyp]

Yeah, where is that lazy bastard?

You got everything right but the t-shirt, Larry. My shirt was depicting the Steve Rucchin overtime goal in Game Four last year. *cough cough*

Annnnnyway, I'll get it fixed in a bit.

[Ron Thorne]

With the JC clock on-the-fritz, Moné can fudge on "in a bit" by an hour. http://jazzcornertalk.com/speakeasy/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[moneyp]

Hey, my bits are longer than most people's bits.

[Jazzzoline]

Hey, my bits are longer than most people's bits.Proove it!

[moneyp]

Is the time fixed yet?

Well there you go.

[Ron Thorne]

Yep. Thanks, Moné.

[bluenoter]

http://www.jazzcornertalk.com/speakeasy/images/icons/icon14.gif

[Pete C]

Hey, my bits are longer than most people's bits.

Mone's bits are worse than his byte.

[bluenoter]

Mone's bits are worse than his byte.Just back from

TWO HOURS

of


SOLOMON BURKE

LIVE

at B.B. King's Blues Club.Your Burke is worse than your byte (whatever that means).

[Enforcer]

I've been getting IE errors that prompt me to debug. Now, I'm having all kinds of computer problems that are definitely unrelated to this site, so it's probably just my laptop. But I've also had problems posting here a few times over the past couple of days. Is it just me?

[Ron Thorne]

I haven't had any problems posting here recently, Larry.

Moné, do I need to access and change a setting to copy a specific thread or post URL? I don't see anything specific in the URL window on JC, yet thread or post #'s on other bbs, even ones using the identical software and version.


This is what I can usually copy, which is worthless for directing someone to a thread or post:

http://www.jazzcorner.com/speakeasyframe.html

[bluenoter]

Ron--

I sent you a PM.

(It tells you a way to get thread URLs, but not post URLs, so Moné, please reply anyway.)

[Ron Thorne]

Ron--

I sent you a PM.

(It tells you a way to get thread URLs, but not post URLs, so Moné, please reply anyway.)
Thanks, bluenoter.

[Enforcer]

Starting today, I'm seeing threads in bold (as if they're unread) for a few minutes after I read them. Then, after a few minutes passes, they look read again.

Something with my browser or the board (cookies)?

[moneyp]

Yeah, doing a little tinkering behind the scenes, which may affect cookies. Should be resuming normal behavior soon. The board, I mean, not me.

[Enforcer]

Thanks, Moné.

Next question: Would the presence of a program running in the background by the name "monescreditcardtheftworm.exe" be a part of the tinkering, and should I be concerned?

[Scott Yanow]

testing, testing, 123....

[Fred K]

Sometime in the last week we lost the ability to post more than 2 images at a time. Was that on purpose?

[Lois Gilbert]

We upgraded to the latest version this past week & it possible that that feature is not an option, but I'll check with Moné

[Fred K]

Thanks

[bluenoter]

I noticed the same thing--that we're now back to a limit of two IMGs (plus one attachment) per post. During much of our time in vB 3.0, we've been allowed at least five or six images per post (plus one attachment)--I never did figure out what the max was. And I too request that we be allowed more IMGs per post (plus one attachment) again--especially because smiley icons are counted as IMGs.

[Chris A]

There seems to be an annoying glitch that gives the following message whenever one hits the back arrow rather than take one back to the previous page.

Of course you would be able to read it if JC was not quite as stingy when it comes to image size limit (hint hint).

[bluenoter]

Of course you would be able to read it if JC was not quite as stingy when it comes to image size limit (hint hint).Just to clarify that, Chris is talking about the size limits, in both pixels and KB, for attachments. Images posted using the IMG function, rather than uploaded as attachments, have no size limit.

[moneyp]

Of course you would be able to read it if JC was not quite as stingy when it comes to image size limit (hint hint).

Contributions to increase the size of our server capacity/bandwidth are welcome, I'm sure.

I'm not getting any of those errors when using the back arrow in IE, Foxfire or even Safari. Are you doing it from a search page? It looks like a search timeout error.

[moneyp]

I'll check with Lois on the image thing, to see what her take on it should be... I'm sure it happened in the upgrade to 3.0.3.

[moneyp]

I'll check with Lois on the image thing, to see what her take on it should be... I'm sure it happened in the upgrade to 3.0.3.
Sorry, missed this.

You can right-click on a post-number and open it in a new tab or window, and it will give you the URL.

[moneyp]

Like so. (http://www.jazzcornertalk.com/speakeasy/showpost.php?p=210961&postcount=241)

[Chris A]

Thanks, Mone.

I am using Safari, but this does not happen when I visit AAJ, which uses the same software.

[Enforcer]

I'm sure nobody cares, and I can easily live with it, but I still don't see threads show as "read" until several minutes after I've read them.

Larry

[Enforcer]

OK, it's only threads I just replied to. For some reason, those threads remain in bold as if they are "unread."

[Ron Thorne]

Moné -

Here's another example of multiple images being problematic when they weren't in the very recent past. This procedure used to work fine, but not lately.

Here's the error message I'm getting:

The following errors occurred when this message was submitted:

1. You have included too many images in your signature or in your previous post. Please go back and correct the problem
and then continue again.

Images include use of smilies, the vB code [img] tag and HTML <img> tags. The use of these is all subject to them being
enabled by the administrator.


For examples of similar types of things I've posted in the past with no problem (from the same source URL), see posts #113-116 on the following thread, the same one on which I attemped to cut and paste a story yesterday, and received repeated error messages.

http://www.jazzcornertalk.com/speakeasy/showthread.php?t=520&page=4

Something has changed, but I haven't a clue what or why. Perhaps a setting is different following the recent software update? It was working fine as recently as June, 2004.

This is a link to the complete story which I was unable to cut and paste yesterday.

http://www.adn.com/front/story/5452498p-5389083c.html

Thanks,

Ron

[Enforcer]

My problem with threads staying "unread" after I've posted to them is more specific than I thought: The threads aren't marked read after I post and I'm taken to the last (my) post, then leave and go back to the index. I have to go back into the thread again and exit again, and then it finally shows read. No idea why. It sucks.

[Ron Thorne]

Thanks to Moné or whoever corrected the IMG/links limitation. It's nice to have things return to the way we've grown accustomed to posting.

Mahalo nui loa~

http://www.nutscaper.com/yabb/jim/smilies//banana2.gif

[Lois Gilbert]

Yes Ron it's all fixed.

Please email me or pm me if there are problems. I try to check in here regularly, but don't always remember to do so.

Thanks
Lois

lois@jazzcorner.com

[Ron Thorne]

Thanks, Lois.

... and, "Doc".

[Ron Thorne]

NOTE:

The clock (time stamp) is not correct on JC at this time for some reason. I'm posting this at approximately 2:25am EDT. Please note the discrepancy with the time shown on my post.

Edit: According to my computer's clock, the JC clock is :57 minutes SLOW. I'm posting this edit at 3:00 am EDT.