Novak vs Carville - Round 2

[lynn]

Looks like Novak might have a couple problems at CNN. Hope he gets the sack!

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Cussing, walking off show gets Novak suspended by CNN
August 5, 2005
BY ERIC HERMAN Staff Reporter Advertisement

Chicago Sun-Times columnist Robert Novak swore and then stormed off the set of CNN's "Inside Politics" Thursday, prompting CNN to suspend him indefinitely.

The suspension comes after prolonged pressure on Novak, who is at the center of a federal probe into the leaking of a CIA officer's identity. Novak erupted while he and commentator James Carville were discussing a U.S. Senate campaign in Florida. After the columnist walked off the set, CNN correspondent Ed Henry said he had planned to ask Novak about his role in the investigation.

"Bob Novak's behavior on CNN today was inexcusable and unacceptable. Mr. Novak has apologized to CNN, and CNN apologizes to its viewers for his language and actions. We've asked Mr Novak to take some time off," said CNN spokeswoman Edie Emery.

Novak did not return messages left Thursday evening.

Debate candidate's chances

During the show, Carville and Novak talked about the Senate candidacy of Republican Katherine Harris, who as Florida's secretary of state presided over the tumultuous 2000 presidential recount. Novak argued the opposition of Florida's Republican establishment might not necessarily hurt Harris.

''Let me just finish, James, please,'' Novak continued. ''I know you hate to hear me, but you have to.''

Carville, looking at host Ed Henry, said, "He's got to show these right-wingers that he's got a backbone, you know. It's why the Wall Street Journal editorial page is watching you. Show 'em that you're tough.''

Carville then sat back in his chair, laughing.

''Well, I think that's bull----, and I hate that,'' Novak said. Then, making a sweeping motion with his hands, Novak said to Henry, "Just let it go."

As Henry started to ask Carville a question, Novak stood up and walked off the set.

Carville, known as the "Ragin' Cajun," is a Democratic political consultant who advised Bill Clinton during his 1992 presidential campaign. He and Novak have appeared together often on CNN, frequently sparring on shows like "Crossfire," which feature heated argument as their main attraction. Novak had never left a set before, a CNN source said.

Outed CIA operative

Novak is a political conservative, with views similar to those espoused by the Wall Street Journal's editorial page. The Journal has defended Novak in the furor over the CIA case.

The case involves the outing of Valerie Plame, whom Novak identified as a CIA operative in a July 2003 column. Plame is married to former U.S. ambassador Joseph Wilson, who had criticized intelligence relied on by the Bush administration that it used to justify invading Iraq. Wilson later accused the White House of leaking his wife's identity to discredit him.

A federal investigation led by Chicago's U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald ensued. Novak has repeatedly refused to comment on his role, or say whether he testified before the grand jury. Two other reporters involved fought not to reveal their sources, and Judith Miller of the New York Times is now in jail for refusing to talk.

In June, Henry, who is filling in temporarily as host of "Inside Politics," asked Novak about the case. On Thursday, Novak was told Henry would ask about it again at the end of Thursday's segment, a CNN source said.

In a column that ran in the Sun-Times on Monday, Novak suggested he learned Plame's identity partly from reading Who's Who in America. A CNN source said a producer had placed a copy of Who's Who on the set Thursday prior to the taping, apparently so it could be consulted while Novak was asked about the issue.

[Scott Dolan]

Looks like Novak night have a couple problems at CNN.

Damn.

I'll miss those dollar drafts.

[lynn]

If you weren't such an ass I might even like you. Butt alas, it's too late for you Mr. Perfect.

[Scott Dolan]

Oh my!!



See? You knew I wasn't so bad.

[Monte Smith]

Mr. Novak has been told by CNN to take some time off. Yeah, I should say so. He musta been cranky last night.

Hey! They say Crossfire has been canceled. Though you'd never know it if Novak and Carville are still arguing on CNN. How about a show that pits two cranky octagenarians against one another: Novak and Helen Thomas? It'd be like watching your grandparents fight. TV demographic gold!

[Scott Dolan]

How about a show that pits two cranky octagenarians against one another: Novak and Helen Thomas? It'd be like watching your grandparents fight. TV demographic gold!

Lynn and I love the idea.

But we both agree that you should throw the Byrdmeister in their to keep the show light and entertaining.

Or at least confusing as hell..........................

[acidflower]

Maybe Novak is feeling a bit of pressure here. He may well be aware that he could be a accessory in a treason trial, or at least he should be . Maybe he's feeling a bit guilty about leaking info regarding a HOC CIA Operative, that could've resulted in her death, and may have resulted in the death of other agents around Plame. It certainly damaged an ongoing investigation into WMD, which is what the Bush administration claims is the rationale for the current war in Iraq (oh, I'm sorry, "struggle" ). I have to wonder about the priorities here. Novak was suspended for saying a naughty word on the air & walking off, but has recieved no such treatment for contributing to a treasonous act. Odd...

[willy]

I think Novak finally blew up after having to deal with a bunch of liberal dweebs at CNN for son long. Why he sticks around is beyond me. Crossfire died because nobody watched it. Capitol Gang has a 0.000001 market share.

I hope he gets the sack too Lynn. Anywhere else he goes will be a move up with a larger audience.

Liberalism is a mental disorder and is finally dying out in this country. There are still a few extremists hanging out in college campuses and the newsrooms around the country, but that's about it. Thank God.

[lynn]

I am thinking that there are really dark days ahead in this country. It's moral values have been shifted on their axis. Where kindness and compassion were part of our daily lives, we have literally stooped to embrase a culture that does not allow for compromise or honor.

Thanks Willy for the look into the dark side.

[Slurpy]

Liberalism is a mental disorder and is finally dying out in this country. There are still a few extremists hanging out in college campuses and the newsrooms around the country, but that's about it. Thank God.

When did willy turn into Tony Perkins?!?

[Monte Smith]

When did willy turn into Tony Perkins?!?

I thought he was channelling Michael Savage. Really, there is hyperbole coming from all quarters here. Kindness and compassion are neither abolished nor the possession of one side, and liberlaism is not a mental disorder. Or at least not if it is intelligently done.

[steve(thelil)]

I think Novak finally blew up after having to deal with a bunch of liberal dweebs at CNN for son long. Why he sticks around is beyond me. Crossfire died because nobody watched it. Capitol Gang has a 0.000001 market share.

I hope he gets the sack too Lynn. Anywhere else he goes will be a move up with a larger audience.

Liberalism is a mental disorder and is finally dying out in this country. There are still a few extremists hanging out in college campuses and the newsrooms around the country, but that's about it. Thank God.

My first inclination would be to point out that your effort to equate liberalism with a mental disorder and then extremism paints you clearly as both intellectually inferior and extremist, but realizing that both this analysis and irony itself would be over your head, I've decided instead to narrowcast to your exact intellectual and emotional level by wishing you a hearty "fuck you, douchebag."

[rollhead]

Oh, very well said, Steve. You are speaking in the only language that the rightwing understands.

[lynn]

I thought he was channelling Michael Savage. Really, there is hyperbole coming from all quarters here. Kindness and compassion are neither abolished nor the possession of one side, and liberlaism is not a mental disorder. Or at least not if it is intelligently done.

Quite riding the fence Monte. The old points of light and compassionate conservatism are certainly catch slogans but have actually done little to offset the blows that our social care network has taken since the days of Ronald Reagan. Welfare for the rich has been the actual rule of the day. Every step of the way, you can see their minds at work. First cut off access to bankruptcy ... now pull the plug on peoples insurance coverage. Ooops Here's the bill for little Johnny's appendectomy. Sorry you can't make the house payment .

You're a smart guy, why can't you put 2 + 2 together and see what is actually coming down the pike at us.

As far as liberal thinking is concerned, it is a blessing that there are still people who continue to work to counter the appalling effects of the neo-con svengali's. They seemed to have taken over the bodies and minds of the GOP. (Gut Our Pocketbooks)

Remember, guns don't kill .... bullets do. Look for that legislation soon. Serial numbers on bullets. Right. Pick your special intrest group and look at the record.

Re: Novak - he's a stooge.

[rollhead]

Monte isn't smart

He really thinks we should smile while we are getting screwed up the hindside.

Anyone who votes against the interests of 99 percent of America shouldn't be categorized as especially perceptive, patriotic or compassionate.

He hasn't been around long enough to know that a lot of people died for the things that the Republicans are trying to take away from us -- workplace protections, social security, pensions -- so he has utterly no way to comprehend the anger.

[Scott Dolan]

You'd smile if I were screwing you up the hindside.



I'm just that good!

[Scott Dolan]

You're a smart guy, why can't you put 2 + 2 together and see what is actually coming down the pike at us.

I've noticed this exact same thing around here from the very first day I signed up(god, wasn't that a glorious day, Lynn? ).

Everything is "coming down the pike", "the next thing they will do", "the 'potential' of this bill/ruling", "right around the corner", "will lead to the eventual loss of all civil libreties", etc.

The sky will indeed fall.

[rollhead]

Well, I just wouldn't notice it if it were you.

[JamesH]

The sky will indeed fall.

Metaphorically it already has fallen. Twenty years ago if you told the average citizen that America would start a preemptive war based on manufactured evidence, so it could control oil reserves you'd say that was the beginning of the end.

Today all that's just business as usual.

The sky has fallen.

But at least we have our SUV's, Reality TV, Day Trading, Porn and the Right Wing Church to keep us warm at night.

[Scott Dolan]

Well, I just wouldn't notice it if it were you.

That stretched out are ya?

[lynn]

Dolan get your own thread if you want to solicit sex. I'm hoping you aren't this crude around Mrs. Dolan. Obviously you don't care who reads your bilge here.

[Scott Dolan]

Nope!

[Scott Dolan]

Hey Lynn, that reminds me, have you heard the one about the two conceited people who were having sex?


Lady: Aren't I tight?

Man: Nope. Just full.

[Gordon B]

Monte isn't smart

He really thinks we should smile while we are getting screwed up the hindside.

Anyone who votes against the interests of 99 percent of America shouldn't be categorized as especially perceptive, patriotic or compassionate.

You say that Monte isn't very smart then imply that 99% of Americans have the same interests. Hmmmm.

Novak? He's a jerk. I hope he retires.

[Tom Marcello]

A much better Novak........Gary

[Scott Dolan]

Actually, I think Gary Novak kicks serious ass!!!


Though I'm sure some will disagree.


His work on Chick Corea's Time Warp album completely stomped ass!!!

[Daniel]

awesome news