Newcomer Has ??? About The Cornet.

[Joe Milanese]

Hello Everyone!
I am brand-spankity new to JazzCorner. I've just decided, at this late date (on the down side of 50), to take up the cornet. I've always loved the sound of a muted cornet and , so far, have been listening to the old stuff from King Oliver and Louis Armstrong. I am hoping that some of you could give me some names of some more contemporary cornet players. I really need someone to emulate! Also, if anyone knows of some cornet players from the Bebop era, I'd REALLY be interested in that! I am physically disabled and live on a pitiful disability income so I bought a VERY CHEAP cornet from India, actually against the advice of many, MANY people online. It's a TriStar. I have a small assortment of mouthpieces and a copper balloon mute. I downloaded a .pdf fingering chart and that's about as far as I've gotten.
Any suggestions on who to listen to, or, any other advice would be GREATLY appreciated. I'm pretty confident that I'll never play Carnegie Hall, but I'd love to be able to blow a little jazz for my own grins.
Thanks to all of you in advance for any help you can provide.
Again, Thanks,
Joe Milanese

[groover]

Nat Adderley, Thad Jones, and Don Cherry are among the more modern players who used the cornet.

Nat Adderley used the cornet exclusively, and recorded extensively with his brother Cannonball.

You must check out this classic set by Nat:



Work Song
Nat Adderley

[Ron Thorne]

Welcome, Joe. It's never too late to enjoy creating music.

I'm a drummer, not a horn player, so I won't offer any advice on cornet brands, fingering exercises, books, etc., but I will suggest one musician you may enjoy checking out . . . Nat Adderley.

Nat was very popular from the 50's until his death in 2000. He was the brother of saxophonist Julian "Cannonball" Adderley and was mostly involved with what would probably be identified with post-bop and soul-jazz. He played with Cannonball, Lionel Hampton, trombonist J. J. Johnson and many others over his long career. Nat was also a fine composer, and penned a few tunes which are quite well known, among them, Jive Samba and Work Song.



Here's a link to an interesting NPR profile on Nat and Cannonball. Click on the blue underlined link below.

Jazz Profiles: Nat Adderley

Here's a link to a bio on Nat:

Nat Adderley bio

A few album recommendations:

Title - label

Work Song - Riverside/OJC
That's Right: Nat Adderley & the Big Sax Section - Riverside/OJC
You Baby - A&M
We Remember Cannon - In & Out
Autumn Leaves: Live at Sweet Basil - Evidence

I'm sure that some other folks will have further suggestions for you. Just wait until Dennis González shows up.

Have fun!

[Ron Thorne]

I see that groover beat me to the bunch with Nat.

Yeah, Thad Jones is another excellent suggestion. His work with drummer Mel Lewis and the big band (among others) was outstanding.

And Don Cherry has a considerably different approach from either of the other two.

[Jeff Albert]

On the much more modern tip Taylor Ho Bynum and Josh Berman both play cornet, and Dave Douglas said he was going all cornet, but I saw a recent clip of him playing trumpet again, so I am not sure what he is doing.

[Joe Milanese]

Wow! Thanks You Guys! You've given me alot to catch up on. I'm gonna start checking the players out tonite! Thanks again,
Joe

[bigtiny]

Hello Everyone!
I am brand-spankity new to JazzCorner. I've just decided, at this late date (on the down side of 50), to take up the cornet. I've always loved the sound of a muted cornet and , so far, have been listening to the old stuff from King Oliver and Louis Armstrong. I am hoping that some of you could give me some names of some more contemporary cornet players. I really need someone to emulate! Also, if anyone knows of some cornet players from the Bebop era, I'd REALLY be interested in that! I am physically disabled and live on a pitiful disability income so I bought a VERY CHEAP cornet from India, actually against the advice of many, MANY people online. It's a TriStar. I have a small assortment of mouthpieces and a copper balloon mute. I downloaded a .pdf fingering chart and that's about as far as I've gotten.
Any suggestions on who to listen to, or, any other advice would be GREATLY appreciated. I'm pretty confident that I'll never play Carnegie Hall, but I'd love to be able to blow a little jazz for my own grins.
Thanks to all of you in advance for any help you can provide.
Again, Thanks,
Joe Milanese

also, during his mid-late 70s 'Columbia year' Woody Shaw was trading off between trumpet and cornet. I'm not sure he had THAT distinctive a voice on the instrument, hence, it's very difficult to tell when he's playing the cornet (that may be the reason he seems to have stopped playing it at the end of the 70s).

As a 40+ year trumpet player (recently retired) I can tell you that you've got your work cut out for you. The trumpet/cornet whatever is a very demanding instrument, takes a lot of time and energy. However, you might find you even feel better after working with it a while.

Practice scales and pay attention to a comfortable embouchure. There are various aspects to playing the horn and they are all important, But the MOST important thing is to breathe properly. As Diz said "If your asshole ain't tight, you ain't got it right!"

bigtiny

[Dennis Gonzalez]

This last tour, I started playing mostly cornet, and I love it. Much more grounded than even my C trumpet.

For a great cornetist, check out Manfred Schoof as a leader. Most of his really great stuff is OOP on JAPO, but maybe someone has copies for sale.

[Root Doctor]

Olu Dara!

[Sandi22]

Clark Terry; Lee Morgan, and Shorty Rodgers, the master. Many others played the coronet, or flugel horn, they were the ones I saw play it the most, the ones who've stuck with me. There's others, but these are the three who come easily to mind. They were tops.

[stonemonkts]

Greatest ever on cornet: Bix.

[bigtiny]

Clark Terry; Lee Morgan, and Shorty Rodgers, the master. Many others played the coronet, or flugel horn, they were the ones I saw play it the most, the ones who've stuck with me. There's others, but these are the three who come easily to mind. They were tops.

Not sure what you're trying to say here Sandi22. I've never heard of Clark or Lee playing cornet (at least not in public for an appreciable amount of time). I'm not sure I've even heard Lee Morgan play Flugelhorn. Shorty Rogers was a trumpeter who gravitated toward playing flugelhorn exclusively. The flugelhorn and cornet are two entirely different instruments.

Just for clarity.

bigtiny