December-28th-2007, 09:54 AM
Bronwyn's been using honey to heal horse wounds for decades. A long time back, a vet was treating a stubborn wound. She told him to use honey and he scoffed. The next time he saw her, he handed her a jar of honey. He's been using it ever since.
Once about five years ago, our favorite mare Suzy received a terrible pasture wound -- a wire cut at someone else's barn, where they were using electric fences -- we won't. It was serious enough to end her sport-horse career, one of the reasons we decided to use her as a broodmare and build our barn. The whole front of her hock (the mid-leg joint on hind legs) was open to the bone, a large medallion of flesh was hanging by a piece that hadn't torn. Miraculously, there was an exposed vein pulsing away that hadn't been torn. I put the hanging flesh back in place and a pressure bandage, and held it in place by hand with additional hand pressure in case the bandage didn't provide enough. And waited for the vet to arrive, about half an hour later. I was really afraid we were going to have to put her down and had told Bronwyn that the wound was very serious. Thankfully, I freak out after events like that rather than during (as my mom said she did when an RN, both in and out of the service). During them, I'm generally pretty calm and focussed. I learned wound treatment in the service; something everyone should learn.
Anyway, when the vet came, he made sure the wound was clean and then placed the flesh back again, as I had, smeared it with honey, bandaged it tight and told us to leave it there for five days, and then clean and rebandage daily. Three weeks later she was kicking up her heels again. The scar outlining that medallion can still be seen, plainly visible. It was a very serious wound.
We've used it on horse wounds several times since. We always keep some on hand for that purpose.
We've used it on human wounds and it works just as well. Mammals are mammals. At that kind of level, there's not much difference at all.
Note the honey should be real, raw honey, not the candy type that comes in squirt jars shaped like bears ...
Bronwyn uses the manuka honey described below, but any raw honey will do.
Honey makes medical comeback
Potent type used as antibiotic amid fears of drug-resistant superbugs
The Associated Press
updated 12:11 p.m. ET, Wed., Dec. 26, 2007
TRENTON, New Jersey - Amid growing concern over drug-resistant superbugs and nonhealing wounds that endanger diabetes patients, nature's original antibiotic — honey — is making a comeback.
More than 4,000 years after Egyptians began applying honey to wounds, Derma Sciences Inc., a New Jersey company that makes medicated and other advanced wound care products, began selling the first honey-based dressing this fall after it was approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.
Called Medihoney, it is made from a highly absorbent seaweed-based material, saturated with manuka honey, a particularly potent type that experts say kills germs and speeds healing. Also called Leptospermum honey, manuka honey comes from hives of bees that collect nectar from manuka and jelly bushes in Australia and New Zealand.
Antibiotics becoming ineffective
Derma Sciences now sells two Medihoney dressings to hospitals, clinics and doctors in North and South America under a deal with supplier Comvita LP of New Zealand. Derma Sciences hopes to have its dressings in U.S. drug stores in the next six months, followed by adhesive strips.
Comvita, which controls about 75 percent of the world's manuka honey supply, sells similar products under its own name in Australia, New Zealand and Europe, where such products have been popular for over a decade.
"The reason that Medihoney is so exciting is that antibiotics are becoming ineffective at fighting pathogens," said Derma Sciences CEO Ed Quilty.
Another big advantage, he said, is that the dressings' germ-fighting and fluid-absorbing effects last up to a week, making them convenient for patients being cared for at outpatient clinics or by visiting nurses. They also reduce inflammation and can eliminate the foul odors of infected wounds.
Since receiving FDA approval, Medihoney has brought in sales of $150,000 in 10 weeks and Quilty plans to nearly double his 15-person sales force in 2008 thanks to the two new Medihoney products.
Honey dressings and gels, as well as tubes of manuka honey, have been gaining in popularity overseas, fueled by scientific reports on their medical benefits and occasional news accounts of the dramatic recovery of a patient with a longtime wound that suddenly healed.
Regular honey can have mild medicinal benefits. A study published Dec. 3 showed it helps to calm children's coughs so they can sleep. But manuka honey is far more potent, research shows.
Dr. Robert Frykberg, chief of podiatry at the Veterans Affairs Medical Center in Phoenix, said the Medihoney product has worked on about half the patients with diabetic foot ulcers who have used it.
He said the Medihoney dressing can also prevent the dangerous drug-resistant staph infection known as MRSA from infecting open wounds.
"It's been used on wounds where nothing else will work," said biochemist Peter Molan, a professor at the University of Waikato in New Zealand who has researched honey and other natural antibiotics for 25 years.
He's found manuka honey can kill the toughest bacteria even when diluted 10 times and recommends it especially for people with weak immune systems.
"There's more evidence, clinical evidence, by far for honey in wound treatment than for any of the pharmaceutical products" for infection, Molan said. However, it won't work once an infection gets in the blood. "It's not a miracle."
Some U.S. hospitals and wound care clinics are already using Medihoney dressings to treat patients with stubborn, infected wounds from injuries or surgical incisions and nonhealing pressure ulcers on diabetics' feet, which too often lead to amputations.
Kara Couch, a nurse practitioner at Georgetown University Hospital's Center for Wound Healing in Washington, said it works well for patients who have "wound pain" or infected wounds.
One patient who had an open wound that didn't heal for a few years "healed 90 percent in three weeks," she said, adding that the usual rate for chronic wounds is barely 10 percent a week.
David Crosby, a retired insurance claims examiner from Hanover, Massachusetts, began using Medihoney two months ago on a 2 1/2-year-old burn on his leg after high-tech treatments did not help. The burn's size has shrunk by half and it continues to heal.
"At this stage, any improvement's better than nothing," Crosby said.
Dr. Craig Lambrecht, a North Dakota emergency physician, started using a paste version of Medihoney while serving with the National Guard in Iraq last winter.
At a military clinic for Iraqi children, he used it on patients with severe burns from cooking fuels, open fires and explosions. He said Iraqi families soon preferred the honey over other treatments because it was natural and because the honey dressings don't need to be changed as often as traditional ones. The children also healed more quickly and with fewer complications, he said.
After seeing its success in Iraq, Lambrecht, who has five children of his own, is a fan.
"I would use the Medihoney on burns on my children, as the first choice, without question," he said.
Copyright 2007 The Associated Press
Last edited by Gary Sisco; December-28th-2007 at 10:03 AM.
December-28th-2007, 10:05 AM
Honey mixed with peanut butter is even better, especially on mouth and tongue centered wounds.
December-28th-2007, 12:07 PM
Victory at sea!
I'm a devotee of bee pollen. Friend of mine in the Peace Corps who taught bee keeping turned me on to it.
December-28th-2007, 12:25 PM
isn't bee pollen a natural form of viagra?
December-28th-2007, 12:28 PM
Victory at sea!
No. that's a myth. It does stimulate the production of sperm. But mostly it contains a ton of amino acids and other stuff that is good for you.
December-28th-2007, 12:29 PM
Victory at sea!
The wide range of nutrients found in Bee Pollen include polyphenols, enzymes, beneficial fatty acids, free amino acids, vitamin complexes, chelated minerals and trace elements, as well as a large array of phytonutrients that have yet to be identified. This nutritional diversity makes Bee Pollen an ideal dietary supplement as a complement and boost to a well-rounded diet.
December-28th-2007, 12:46 PM
Honey never goes bad. Bacteria doesn't grow in it.
December-28th-2007, 02:54 PM
Oh, that's just luck.
Originally Posted by Noj
December-28th-2007, 04:34 PM
Kills all threads!
Well, the bees picked a great time to start disappearing....
"The challenge of creative music has never been more important than in periods of profound unrest and realignment."--Anthony Braxton
December-28th-2007, 04:38 PM
I think Pumpy does some kind of a bee enema.
December-28th-2007, 10:45 PM
December-30th-2007, 12:37 AM
bee excrement is alot like Viagra!
That's why I smoke it. Regularly in fact. Alot like the old days of Hash Oil. You may not recall. But we had small glass pipes where we would drop a substance often named "honey" oil, into the cabernet-like chamber of the glass Pip and then heat it from below. The ensuing carcenogenic vapors would be sucked from the skinny end for a bit of a rush and to your point, I always got a bit of a woody from it (grin).
Honey is good!
December-30th-2007, 01:56 AM
Each Day Is A Gift.
Originally Posted by brickhead
December-30th-2007, 08:31 AM
Scoff, o ye of little faith.
A lot of people could save themselves a lot of trouble, using honey, with the antibiotics-resistant bacterial strains loose in hospitals and other places, MRSA included. That's not a worry if you treat topical wounds with the honey. They're not honey-resistant, and, as Noj notes, correctly, bacteria can't live on honey. It promotes the growth of new, healthy tissue while effectively eliminating bacterial infections.
We use several things on ourselves that we use on horses because, frankly, they work better. The products for use on sore muscles and tendons of horses, for example, work a lot better than the over-the-counter stuff marketed for people.
January-1st-2008, 01:07 AM
Oh Yeah! Ron, "Yes Indeed" says quite a lot ;~)
You've had the skinny end of the pip in your mouth, no doubt!
Homey is good!
oh yeah, and honey is good too!
Happy new years (homey) honey lovers~