Rush Limbaugh hospitalized due to chest pains

[Jeffrey Wozniak]

For all the haters here who take pleasure in the pain and suffering of others. Especially if that person is of a different political persuasion than yourself.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091231/...gh_hospital_32


Happy New Year

[rollhead]

It was probably just a case of gas.

[Jeffrey Wozniak]

That may be the case here. After all, he IS full of hot air.

While I agree with almost everything I have heard him comment on when it comes to politics and the like, he is definitely full of himself.

But then again, how many radio,TV, or cable talk show hosts aren't?

[steve(thelil)]

For all the haters here who take pleasure in the pain and suffering of others. Especially if that person is of a different political persuasion than yourself.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091231/...gh_hospital_32


Happy New Year

Do you mean that this information is not of any interest to fans of Rush or people who believe he serves a valuable role as a political analyst? Is he that expendable to those people?

[bluenoter]

For all the haters here who take pleasure in the pain and suffering of others.

That describes Limbaugh perfectly, except that he's not here.

[Jeffrey Wozniak]

That describes Limbaugh perfectly, except that he's not here.

Please give some examples of his reveling in the illness, hospitalization or death of another person. Other than maybe someone like Joseph Stalin or the like dying, can you list a few?

Also, can you provide references with this list? Most people only know about his show by what others have told them they heard from a third party.

If you can provide such a list with reliable references I will concede this point to you.

If not, will you promise to reconsider your stance on "forcing" someone to care about another person and/or his/her situation in life?

[Jeffrey Wozniak]

Do you mean that this information is not of any interest to fans of Rush or people who believe he serves a valuable role as a political analyst? Is he that expendable to those people?

No. I do not. However, they would not be the ones reveling in his pain. Nor would most people who disagree with him politically.

Only real haters would be happy upon hearing about something like this.

[Monte Smith]

I, for one, pray that God lets humanity benefit from the genius that is Limbaugh for decades to come. Hang in there, O Maharushi, you are not done with the liberals yet.

[Ron Thorne]

Jeffrey, is everything, including music, black & white in your world?

Perhaps we should commission Pete Seeger to work on a full set of lyrics for Where Have All The Haters Gone?

Happy New Year!

[Jeffrey Wozniak]

Perhaps we should commission Pete Seeger to work on a full set of lyrics for Where Have All The Haters Gone?

Or at least persuade Rita to furnish a fresh copy of the list I alluded to in my #6 above.

Happy New Year to you as well Ron!

[steve(thelil)]

Top 10 Racist Limbaugh Quotes
By Casey Gane-McCalla October 20, 2008 9:45 pm



We never anticipated the popularity of this article, nor the controversy that it would cause. But all we can say is, “Thank you, Rush, for being you.”

THE TOP TEN QUOTES
1. Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?

Source

No, but I’ve noticed that all racist bigots think like Rush Limbaugh. Comparing a respected black politician and minister to common criminals is Jim Crow racism. Maybe all black people look alike to him, but I’ve never seen a picture of a wanted criminal that looks like Jesse Jackson. A serial killer that looks like Rush Limbaugh on the other hand.

John Wayne Gacy





2. Right. So you go into Darfur and you go into South Africa, you get rid of the white government there. You put sanctions on them. You stand behind Nelson Mandela — who was bankrolled by communists for a time, had the support of certain communist leaders. You go to Ethiopia. You do the same thing.

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The communist connection is an old way of dealing with black leaders. They used it on Martin Luther King, they’re using it on Barack Obama and Limbaugh used it on Nelson Mandela. By siding with the racist apartheid regime over a world-wide symbol of peace and freedom, Limbaugh has shown he’s a global racist.

3. Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.

Source

Limbaugh is once again fear mongering and race baiting by associating professional black athletes with criminals and gangmembers. He continues the fear mongering association of good, decent, hard working African Americans as criminals.

4. The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.

Source

Now Limbaugh is saying that an organization with a storied tradition of representing the positive black people for change in their communities are criminals and rioters. An organization that has been represented by intelligent professional African Americans, that has played a part in the Civil Rights movement and continues to be an intelligent, concerned voice for the African American community is degraded to common criminals. There you go Rush. Keep racism alive!!!!

5. They’re 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?

Source

Decent human beings care Rush. Someone out of that 12% is the President of the United States. Not caring about black people? Even George Bush wouldn’t admit to that.

6. [To an African American female caller]: Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.

Source

Okay, Rush, that’s classy. The old African bone in the nose stereotype. Wasn’t funny when the racist white school kids called the black kids that and it’s definitely not funny when a grown man with audience of millions of easily influenced dittoheads says it either.

7. I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They’re interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there’s a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn’t deserve.

Source

I wasn’t super offended by this, the whole black quarterback/coach thing has been going on for years in sports, but the quote was so offensive that Retired General Wesley Clarke said:

There can be no excuse for such statements. Mr. Limbaugh has the right to say whatever he wants, but ABC and ESPN have no obligation to sponsor such hateful and ignorant speech. Mr. Limbaugh should be fired immediately.

When a respected, retired general condemns the statement of a sportscaster, you know he’s gone too far.

8. Limbaugh’s many attacks on Obama.

Limbaugh has called Obama a ‘halfrican American’ has said that Obama was not Black but Arab because Kenya is an Arab region, even though Arabs are less than one percent of Kenya. Since mainstream America has become more accepting of African-Americans, Limbaugh has decided to play against its new racial fears, Arabs and Muslims. Despite the fact Obama graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law school, Limbaugh has called him an ‘affirmative action candidate.’ Limbaugh even has repeatedly played a song on his radio show ‘Barack the Magic Negro’ using an antiquated Jim Crow era term for Black a man who many Americans are supporting for president. Way to go Rush.

So Rush Limbaugh has managed to make racist attacks on four of the most admired and respected people of African descent in the past one hundred years, in Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela, Colin Powell and Barack Obama. He has claimed that Joe the Plumber, who isn’t even a plumber is more important in this election than Colin Powell, a decorated military veteran who has served honorably in three administrations. How can the Republican party stand by this man and let their candidates appear on his show? Rush Limbaugh’s comments are so racist, they’re funny, in a Borat, Archie Bunker kind of way. What is not funny is the millions of dittoheads who listen to him, who take in and re-spout all the racist rhetoric that he spits. Limbaugh’s statements are echoed in the racist, angry Palin/McCain supporters who shout ‘kill him,’ ‘terrorist,’ ‘communist,’ ‘traitor,’ ’socialist’ and ‘off with his head.’

9. We need segregated buses… This is Obama’s America.

Source

Okay Limbaugh let’s take back all of the Civil Rights movement and bring segregation back. But you’re not a racist.

10. Obama’s entire economic program is reparations

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Source

The sources for these quotes are cited at
http://newsone.com/obama/top-10-racist-limbaugh-quotes/

[Squaredancecalling Steve]

thelil: Thanks! I can now resume my visceral hatred of the man free of any of those vague reservations I had before.

[Jeffrey Wozniak]

While I appreciate the attempt thelil, we both know that is not even close to what Rita alluded to above.

Surely you (or Rita) can furnish a list of quotes referred to in #6 above.

Please allow me to post the sentence in question again, since it was at least three of four posts ago, and I know what a pain it can be to have to scroll up the screen an entire inch or two:

"For all the haters here who take pleasure in the pain and suffering of others'"

[kenny weir]

For all the haters here who take pleasure in the pain and suffering of others. Especially if that person is of a different political persuasion than yourself.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091231/...gh_hospital_32


Happy New Year

Yes - what sort of straw man BS is this?

Expecting, with glee it seems like, those who despise the man and his views to revel in any sort of illness is so ... Rushian.

And no matter how crook he is, he's still scum.

[graypencil]

The implied schadenfreude here is getting a bit thick.

Even though I despise every syllable that's ever been egested from Limbaughs pie hole, I would wish ill health on no one.

It would be fortunate if he was forced to retire from his public position and
take care of his health issues out of view of the public.

After all, we still have Sean Hannity and O'Reilly available to bloviate the
right wing reichspiel ...

( Hannity and O'Reilly - two of the sorriest crosses ever borne by the
Irish since the potato famine )

[steve(thelil)]

While I appreciate the attempt thelil, we both know that is not even close to what Rita alluded to above.

I have no idea what Rita alluded to and wasn't referring to it. I just posted the Limbaugh quotes because I think they are relevant to any discussion on why people might find Rush Limbaugh to be deplorable.

[Ron Thorne]

Yes - what sort of straw man BS is this?

Expecting, with glee it seems like, those who despise the man and his views to revel in any sort of illness is so ... Rushian.

And no matter how crook he is, he's still scum.

Indeed!

[steve(thelil)]

More Fun Rush Limbaugh Quotes:

“Frankly, I'm fed up... no, I'm weary of even having to express sympathy for Cindy Sheehan. Oh, she lost her son. Yes, yes, yes. But we all lose things.”

“Some of these babes, I'm telling you, like the sexual harassment crowd, they're out there protesting what they actually wish would happen to them sometimes.”

“Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. ... And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up.”


“From my point of view, the end result will be as if I had gone to court and won, but the matter is concluded much sooner. I have spent thousands of hours and millions of dollars with lawyers over the past 27 months fighting this at every stage.”

On Michael J. Fox (Parkinson's disease)
"He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. . . . This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting. This is the only time I've ever seen Michael J. Fox portray any of the symptoms of the disease he has. He can barely control himself."
Rush Limbaugh
Source: Rush's Radio Show 10-24-06

Rush Lies

1) Limbaugh: "Don't let the liberals deceive you into believing that a decade of sustained growth without inflation in America (in the '80s) resulted in a bigger gap between the have and the have-nots. Figures compiled by the Congressional Budget Office dispel that myth" (Limbaugh, The Way Things Ought to Be, p. 70).

Reality: CBO numbers for after-tax incomes show that in
1980 the richest fifth of our country had eight times the
income of the poorest fifth. By 1989, the ratio was more
than 20-to-1.

2)Limbaugh: "The poorest people in America are better off
than the mainstream families of Europe" (radio, 1993).
Reality: The poorest 20 percent of Americans can purchase
an average of $5,433 worth of goods with their income.
Meanwhile, in Germany, the average person can purchase
$20,610 worth of goods; in France, $19,200;
in Britain, $16,730 (World Development Report 1994,
published by the World Bank).

[Jeffrey Wozniak]

2)Limbaugh: "The poorest people in America are better off
than the mainstream families of Europe" (radio, 1993).

Reality: The poorest 20 percent of Americans can purchase
an average of $5,433 worth of goods with their income.
Meanwhile, in Germany, the average person can purchase
$20,610 worth of goods; in France, $19,200;
in Britain, $16,730 (World Development Report 1994,
published by the World Bank).

While I certainly do not claim to be an expert on the numbers, I do find it hard to believe that one out of five Americans only has about $5,000 to spend a year after taxes and the like. Either everybody in the metro Detroit area where I live is very well off (this is not likely, since Michigan is probably hurting more than any other state in the country), or the numbers are misleading. Do these numbers including children (i.e. a family of four only has on average $5,400 per person in that family to spend), or do the numbers only those who have a job? Do the numbers include kids working part-time at McDonald's and Burger King? Maybe a teenager working part-time as a baby sitter?

While Limbaugh may have been stretching a bit with the claim above, I find the numbers in the response to be quite misleading as well.

I also notice that Limbaugh's claim and the numbers in the reponse are only 15 years old.

[Uli]

Especially if that person is of a different political persuasion than yourself.

If it was not for the woozy, I'd be amazed that Limaugh's gibber is considered a political persuasion.

[steve(thelil)]

It really is funny when someone in almost the same breath supports Limbaugh and criticizes his detractors for being people who demonize those with differing viewpoints.

I like and respect many people of different political persuasions than myself, but as for hate-stoking and fear-mongering gasbags like Limbaugh, not so much.

His recent shtick that Obama is a sleazy hypocritical undisciplined and unethical guy like Tiger Woods is racism that is veiled so thinly that it is effective only with respect to unintelligent and delusional Rushofiles (in fairness, there are many of them, but they're NOT all like that). The only "logic" behind it is that if Tiger, a well liked and respected black man turns out to be a fraud, Obama must be as well. IOW, Tiger is further proof that "they're all like that (wink wink)"

[Jeffrey Wozniak]

I like and respect many people of different political persuasions than myself, but as for hate-stoking and fear-mongering gasbags like Limbaugh not so much.

His recent shtick that Obama must be a sleazy hypocritical unethical guy like Tiger Woods is racism that is veiled so thinly that it only is effective only with respect to unintelligent delusional Rushofiles (in fairness, there are many of them). The only "logic" behind it is that if Tiger, a well liked and respected black man turns out to be a fraud, Obama must be as well.

You are stetching quite far if you can draw racism out of what Limbaugh said (or what you claim he said). Labeling Obama a sleazy hypocritical unethical guy like Tiger Woods is racist? Why? Because both guys are black and famous? If they weren't black then it wouldn't be racist? Good Lord...You may feel Limbaugh's claim is ridiculous, but how is it racist?

Based on the way you judge something to be racist or not I take it you would have claimed that Obama lost the election in 2008 (if he had lost) because of racism? Or if he is not re-elected in 2012 it's because of racists like Limbaugh?

It's thinking like this that makes it hard for most people to take any cries of racism seriously. You are tirivializing a very serious issue.

[Jeffrey Wozniak]

It really is funny when someone in almost the same breath supports Limbaugh and criticizes his detractors for being people who demonize those with differing viewpoints.

How in the hell did you come to this conclusion? Where have I demonized you or anyone else in this thread simply because you don't agree with Limbaugh?

I started the thread making the claim that there are those out there who take joy in the pain and suffering of others (in this case Limbaugh having chest pains which could have been a heart attack). I have also called you out on your claims that Limbaugh is racist and hateful by giving examples that are not racist in nature. It appears that you can't take the heat when called out for making ridiculous statements. However, I did not attack you. I attacked the ridiculous claim.

Most people who post here on politics disagree with me. However, I do not demonize them because of that. If I ever attack anyone personally it is not because of their views. It is because of the way they present those views. Tim is a perfect example: I feel no ill will towards the man, and I can even respect his opinion. However, he often argues like one of the teenagers in his class, and the fact that he never opposes the DNC or Teacher's Union on anything doesn't doesn't strike me as someone posessing an independent mind. If I attack him it is by pointing this out. Couple this with the fact that he appears to believe that everyone is out to get him and I have a hard time dealing with him. However, I do not hate the man. He and I even agree on a few things (God is an example).

Having said that, maybe you can point out where I have attacked you personally on this thread. I call you out on your assinine comments, but I do not believe I have gone after you. If I have then I aplogize. I do not desire to attack anyone personally. I'm trying to attack the issue itself, whatever the topic is at the time.

[LennyH]

Labeling Obama a sleazy hypocritical unethical guy like Tiger Woods is racist? Why? Because both guys are black and famous?

It would not be so blatantly obvious if not for Limbaugh's history.

What's the reason for drawing a comparison between these two guys? Why would Limbaugh choose to make this specific comparison when their stories don't line up in the least?

There's an easy answer. But I'm guessing you won't stumble upon it.

[Jeffrey Wozniak]

Please see the last sentence in my #22 to understand why I pull my hair out when someone draws conclusions like the one you just came to above.

Maybe if he used someone like Bill Gates or himself, since they are both white, you would have found the comparison acceptable?

This line of thinking is just sad. There is no other way to put it.

I applaud the efforts of those trying to convince others that racism is not only obscene and wrong, but that it should be attacked unmercifully at all times. However, conclusions like this and the examples thelil has provided often have people walking away in frustration. You certainly are not helping a very important cause, which is the fight against racism.

If Limbaugh is racist the example provided by thelil certainly does not prove it to anyone who doesn't automatically label him as such simply because they disagree with his politcal bent.

[steve(thelil)]

It would not be so blatantly obvious if not for Limbaugh's history.

What's the reason for drawing a comparison between these two guys? Why would Limbaugh choose to make this specific comparison when their stories don't line up in the least?

There's an easy answer. But I'm guessing you won't stumble upon it.

The right wing has gone to every length to find incidents suggesting that Obama was sleazy and unethical in his personal life, and come up with nothing. When evidence comes out that another well liked black man has been sleazy and unethical in his personal life, that's all Rush needs (albeit all he has) to suggest that Obama is sleazy and unethical in his. Any intelligent person who isn't trying to deny his or her own racism will certainly recognize this.

What's even worse than Rush's racism is that he tries to cunningly appeal to others who prefer to deny their own racism. (eg. those who don't prefer the real Rush telling a black caller to "Take the bone out of your nose").

So Rush's recent equating of Tiger and Obama despite a total lack of anything suggesting Obama is unethical in his private life is cunningly effective for dumb fuck racists - even if it is blatant and ugly to smarter. less bigoted people.

[LennyH]

Please see the last sentence in my #22 to understand why I pull my hair out when someone draws conclusions like the one you just came to above.

Please illustrate for us how Obama and Tiger Woods share similarities that invite a comparison?

[Jeffrey Wozniak]

Please illustrate for us how Obama and Tiger Woods share similarities that invite a comparison?

Both are famous people who Limbaugh appears to believe are "sleazy hypocritical undisciplined and unethical" (taken from thelil's post above).

Limbaugh probably feels this way about Woods because he is currently all over the news for exactly that. And I certainly do not have to tell you, or anyone else here, that Limbaugh is a tried and true conservative, and that he disagrees with Obama and his policies. Since both are famous and always in the news he can more easily make his point by using them as examples.

You may disagree with Limbaugh's take on this, but to try to run with this and scream "racist" is beyond the pale.

I see I am making no headway here. Not even making a dent. You and thelil seem to have your minds made up on this issue (Limbaugh is definitely a racist), even though the examples you give to support your claim are very weak.

Have a happy New Year. Maybe we will continue with this discussion in the near future.

[steve(thelil)]

I'd agree with you that there's nothing insidious about making that kind of connection, except I think it's your oxycontin addiction talking.

I slightly regret posting this, because if you've really been sincere on your last few posts, you won't get it and will consider it a personal attack, which it isn't.

[kenny weir]

I see I am making no headway here.

But wasn't that the precise point of starting the thread? Getting the sort of responses you expected/wanted thus vindicates your views. Lenny makes much the same point in the following post.