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  1. September-29th-2010, 08:41 AM #1
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    Top Ten Miles Davis Saxophonists

    From his working groups, based on the work they did with Miles (e.g., I love George Coleman from the '80s onward, but am bored by his work with Miles, so he's not a contender for my list, nor is Stitt who just doesn't mesh with the group).

    John Coltrane
    Wayne Shorter
    Cannonball Adderley
    Sonny Rollins
    Gary Bartz
    Kenny Garrett (though not one of my favorite periods, Garrett works well in the context)
    Sonny Fortune
    Dave Liebman
    Hank Mobley

    That's 9. For #10, maybe Carlos Garnett, maybe Azar Lawrence (though there's only a little documentation of him with Miles).
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  2. September-29th-2010, 09:47 AM #2
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    In alphabetical order:

    Cannonball Adderley
    George Coleman
    John Coltrane
    Jackie McLean
    Hank Mobley
    Sam Rivers
    Sonny Rollins
    Wayne Shorter
    Sonny Stitt


    I did not include Lucky Thompson or Dave Shildkraut because I believe they did not work with Miles, only recorded with him.
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    I forgot about Rivers, but not sure if I'd include him in a Miles context.
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    I love Coleman with Miles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monte Smith View Post
    I love Coleman with Miles.
    His playing is rather conservative.
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    If anyone bores me, it's Miles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monte Smith View Post
    If anyone bores me, it's Miles.
    His aggressive playing on the Lincoln Center recordings doesn't work for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monte Smith View Post
    If anyone bores me, it's Miles.
    You really DO swim against the current, 'eh??? =:-)

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  9. September-29th-2010, 11:41 AM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete C View Post
    From his working groups, based on the work they did with Miles (e.g., I love George Coleman from the '80s onward, but am bored by his work with Miles, so he's not a contender for my list, nor is Stitt who just doesn't mesh with the group).

    John Coltrane
    Wayne Shorter
    Cannonball Adderley
    Sonny Rollins
    Gary Bartz
    Kenny Garrett (though not one of my favorite periods, Garrett works well in the context)
    Sonny Fortune
    Dave Liebman
    Hank Mobley

    That's 9. For #10, maybe Carlos Garnett, maybe Azar Lawrence (though there's only a little documentation of him with Miles).
    Pete that's exactly what my list would look like. I've always contended that Garrett was the BEST saxophonist in any Miles post-retirement band. I would have said Sam Rivers for a 10th, but I don't know if his short tenure really qualifies him...

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  10. September-29th-2010, 12:44 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete C View Post
    .

    John Coltrane
    Wayne Shorter
    Cannonball Adderley
    Sonny Rollins
    Gary Bartz
    Kenny Garrett (though not one of my favorite periods, Garrett works well in the context)
    Sonny Fortune
    Dave Liebman
    Hank Mobley

    That's 9. For #10, maybe Carlos Garnett, maybe Azar Lawrence (though there's only a little documentation of him with Miles).
    Exactly my pick but with Dave Liebmann on 10
    Last edited by lonely-at-the-top; September-29th-2010 at 12:44 PM.
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    I agree with all the usual suspects, but a few others worthy of mention:

    Charlie Parker (nominally a sideman on Miles Davis All Star session, 14 August 1947 and 30 January 1953)
    Lucky Thompson and Charlie Ventura (MD Octet, 17 January 1949)
    Brew Moore (MD All Stars, 30 June 1950)
    Zoot 'n Al (MD Septet, 19 February 1953)
    Jimmy Heath (MDSextet, 20 April 1953)
    Barney Wilen (30 November 1957; 4-5, 8 December 1957)
    James Moody (8 May 1949, sometimes under Tadd Dameron's name) Nice live date in France

    Obviously, few, if any working groups here. But some fine sessions.
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    Sorry, I LIKE the Coleman/Lincoln Center stuff - a LOT.
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  13. September-30th-2010, 08:51 AM #13
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    What's to be sorry about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete C View Post
    From his working groups, based on the work they did with Miles (e.g., I love George Coleman from the '80s onward, but am bored by his work with Miles, so he's not a contender for my list, nor is Stitt who just doesn't mesh with the group).


    Sonny Fortune.
    I remember being pretty flipped out by Pete Cosey's first solo on Agharta--really, I'd never heard anyone play guitar like that before--but these days it's Sonny, preceding him, who seems the true standout. In the midst of this really wide-open groove, Sonny is so...organized.
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  15. October-24th-2010, 11:34 PM #15
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    Let's not forget that Sonny Rollins is also a candidate here. He was a member of one of Miles' working groups, and sounds great on the recordings with Miles.
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  16. October-25th-2010, 05:47 AM #16
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    Who forgot?
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  17. October-25th-2010, 06:43 AM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete C View Post
    Who forgot?
    Oops, sorry about that...

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  18. October-25th-2010, 06:00 PM #18
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    I agree with Pete C's original nine too, but with Bob Berg in the #10 spot, mainly on the strength of hearing him live with Miles during his short tenure with the band. The interaction between Berg and Garrett was one of the best things about the show.
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  19. October-25th-2010, 08:55 PM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Barton View Post
    I agree with Pete C's original nine too, but with Bob Berg in the #10 spot, mainly on the strength of hearing him live with Miles during his short tenure with the band. The interaction between Berg and Garrett was one of the best things about the show.
    I never really liked Berg's playing. There's a lot of 70s vintage new york tenor players about whom that is true for me. I don't know if it's the Coltrane worship or what, but they all sound the same to me and I can't stand listening to them....Berg was at the top of the list....

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  20. October-26th-2010, 11:33 AM #20
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    - John Coltrane
    - Wayne Shorter
    - Cannonball Adderley
    - Sonny Rollins
    - Hank Mobley
    - George Coleman
    - Jackie McLean
    - Gary Bartz
    - Sonny Fortune
    - Steve Grossman (let's give him a chance... )

    (did not include Thompson and Rivers for the same reasons explained by others)
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  21. October-28th-2010, 12:28 AM #21
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    I hate to sound a note of caution here, but pretty much everyone raised their game whilst playing with Miles. Despite Mobley (whose stuff I do have more than a ton of, and play regularly) playing his guts out on the Blackhawk stuff, Coleman being cool on 1964 Concert (bits and bobs, but if Mr. C says he's been cool post-80s then that's good enough for me), and Sam River doing the do on the Tokyo gig (close, but just not enough Sammy baby), none of those guys make the cut for me. [Plus, it's funny just how much it has become a muso cliche to say perceive the early 60s 'interim period' as Hamlet without the prince n'est-ce-pas?) It's a four for me, and the ensuing list should be "relatively" self-explanatory (but perhaps revealing my own lamentably boring and predictable nature)

    - Wayne Shorter
    - John Coltrane
    - Sonny Fortune
    - Sonny Rollins
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  22. December-9th-2010, 11:33 AM #22
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    saxes

    Shorter, Coltrane, and Adderley and then all the rest.
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    It doesn't seem like there's that many serious contenders. I can just about make it to ten.

    Sonny Rollins
    Jackie McLean
    Hank Mobley
    Cannonball Adderley
    John Coltrane
    George Coleman
    Wayne Shorter
    Dave Liebman
    Gary Bartz
    Sonny Fortune

    Stitt and Rivers are great but I agree they weren't a great fit with Miles's band.
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