Bourne you dupe. You didn't know that progressives are just a front for the hard line right wing agenda? Shame on you.
Is that what I said?
Because what I thought I said was:
Originally Posted by GoodSpeak
Both the radical right and the looney left hate Obama, blame the Democrats for everything since Moses, won't compromise on anything and have no meaningful solutions for all the stuff they bitch about 24-7-365.
Gee.
Reading comprehension must be at an all-time low on this BBS.
Tsk, tsk.
Last edited by GoodSpeak; February-4th-2012 at 10:41 AM.
The polling is starting to look strong for Obama. It's way too far out to tell, but I was surprised to see today that the latest polls have Obama handily beating Romney:
Romney is going to have to figure out a way to restore his credentials among independents without alienating the base. If the economy continues on its present course, I think that will be impossible to do.
The polling is starting to look strong for Obama. It's way too far out to tell, but I was surprised to see today that the latest polls have Obama handily beating Romney:
Romney is going to have to figure out a way to restore his credentials among independents without alienating the base. If the economy continues on its present course, I think that will be impossible to do.
I think the Independent vote will go to Ron Paul. Besides, Gordon and I have a CD riding on that
That Gingrich is going to remain a consideration is such a bad sign. I haven't been following around here...but is there a president who has inherited Worse circumstances than Obama? We've been kinda desensitized in the last decade but, boy, he got some Sheeeeit.
Boy, this Mitt Romney character sure is an unstoppable political force. Voters are just flocking to his banner left and right. The enthusiasm is truly impressive.
Boy, this Mitt Romney character sure is an unstoppable political force. Voters are just flocking to his banner left and right. The enthusiasm is truly impressive.
It's much too early and I know it's probably wishful thinking but to me it almost looks like he has alredy shot his wad. Interesting to see what else he has up his sleeves.
It's much too early and I know it's probably wishful thinking but to me it almost looks like he has alredy shot his wad. Interesting to see what else he has up his sleeves.
It's much too early and I know it's probably wishful thinking but to me it almost looks like he has alredy shot his wad. Interesting to see what else he has up his sleeves.
Oh, probably more of the same. He'll spend tens of millions of dollars trying to destroy Santorum, who will be harder to attack than Gingrich. I still think he wins the nomination in all likelihood. But now I think the chances of a brokered convention are much higher. If Santorum stays strong in the Midwest and Gingrich manages to hold on in the Southern states, (Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, etc.) Romney might not get the number of delegates he needs to win.
Boy, this Mitt Romney character sure is an unstoppable political force. Voters are just flocking to his banner left and right. The enthusiasm is truly impressive.
Did anybody (here or in the press) expect last night's results?
Again, while in some ways I should be Newting for Root, I'm instead loving that the strong showing by the anybody but Willard group revealed that the "anybody" doesn't include the old evil sourpuss (Newt that is, apologies to Ron Paul who is also vying for that title)
Last edited by steve(thelil); February-8th-2012 at 09:31 AM.
In politics like sports (and much else) it's funny how different things look with hindsight.
Like the South Carolina primary. With hindsight it's significance seems NOT that it was a launching pad for Newt (as it sort of seemed for one shining moment). Rather, it only established him as an early target for demolition.
Did anybody (here or in the press) expect last night's results?
I can tell you that I did not. I recently read an article that explained the effect of super PAC's on the Republican primary. It is my opinion that we're seeing a perfect storm of a divided and unsure electorate along with super PAC manipulation.
I think now it's starting to become apparent how real Romney's weaknesses are as a candidate. If you took Gingrich and Paul out of the race and made it a pure Santorum-Romney showdown, I'm not sure Romney could get 50 percent of the vote among Republicans. But yesterday was a very bad sign for Romney: Missouri, Colorado and Minnesota are states where Republicans NEED to be competitive in the fall, and it seems that Romney cannot generate any enthusiasm among Republicans there. If Romney can't put states in the Midwest and Southwest in play, he has no chance--none--against Obama.
Romney is a centrist which makes it impossible to figure how he would do in a general election. He could sway enough Democrats to negate his losses from the far right. This is not to say he will, just that he could.
In politics like sports (and much else) it's funny how different things look with hindsight.
Like the South Carolina primary. With hindsight it's significance seems NOT that it was a launching pad for Newt (as it sort of seemed for one shining moment). Rather, it only established him as an early target for demolition.
Did Florida have the same significance for Mitt?
Steve, you should read Nate Silver at least once a day. He's an extremely smart guy, a good writer and statistician who spends hours every day thinking about and writing about politics. There's almost no need to read anybody else. I've made a lot of money on InTrade in both 2008 and 2012 partly from what I've picked up reading Silver.
Romney is a centrist which makes it impossible to figure how he would do in a general election. He could sway enough Democrats to negate his losses from the far right. This is not to say he will, just that he could.
No, Romney was a centrist when he was governor of Massachusetts. Now he's a conservative, anti-immigration, anti-gay marriage, pro-life, pro-military, hawkish politician who wants to cut taxes on the wealthy and reduce government spending. His entire political platform now is standard conservative boilerplate. It's not his message that Republicans are rejecting; it's his personality and his past.
No, Romney was a centrist when he was governor of Massachusetts. Now he's a conservative, anti-immigration, anti-gay marriage, pro-life, pro-military, hawkish politician who wants to cut taxes on the wealthy and reduce government spending. His entire political platform now is standard conservative boilerplate. It's not his message that Republicans are rejecting; it's his personality and his past.
He is pandering to the right because he has to to win the nomination. Politics 101. All potentially serious candidates do it and then run to the middle when the general election kicks in.
Think about this line:
he was governor of Massachusetts.
One of the most liberal and progressive states in America. That makes him one of the most talented tightrope walkers in politics. We only happen to be watching his act played out in slow motion at this time. He is astutely playing his cards in the correct order.
He is pandering to the right because he has to to win the nomination. Politics 101. All potentially serious candidates do it and then run to the middle when the general election kicks in.
Think about this line:
One of the most liberal and progressive states in America. That makes him one of the most talented tightrope walkers in politics. We only happen to be watching his act played out in slow motion at this time. He is astutely playing his cards in the correct order.
I disagree pretty strongly. He won Massachusetts by bullshitting everybody. He lied and said he was pro-gay, pro-choice, etc. Even still, at the end of his first term he was unpopular in Massachusetts and never ran again. That's the only election he's ever won, and any move Romney makes to the center in 2012 will cost him with conservatives, who don't trust him at all and aren't enthusiastic about him at all. He is a weak and damaged candidate. Everybody now is talking about a poll that came out earlier this week finding that the more Americans get to know about Mitt Romney, the less they like him.
Obama's odds of reelection are now up to about 60 percent on Intrade. That's still too low by far.
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