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    Quote Originally Posted by steve(thelil) View Post
    I was very impressed with the Celts' 4th quarter. Gamers all.

    PS. MJ was GREAT, GREAT, GREAT. No doubt. BUT (I like a big but) If Lebron was on Jordan's team instead of Jordan during MJ's career, with the same teammates as MJ had. I can't imagine that he wouldn't have as many rings. The year MJ left, his team they had the 2nd best record in the NBA and came damned near winning it all without him. The year LeBron left the Cavs - after leading them to the best record in the NBA in his final season with them, the Cavs were one of the worst teams in history.

    I guess without the titles, LeBron is only as great a basketball player as Ted Williams was as a hitter. Or, maybe better, since Ted never even played in "the Finals" (World Series)
    Yes he did....once.....1946.....7 game series....first Red Sox appearance since 1918
    Not a very good series.....reportedly injured but played anyway. Cardinal's won

    5-25 .200
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    P.S. Lebron vs the Celtics.

    Anyone really think Lebron doesn't go off in this series? They might still lose, but I don't see him personally going out easy.

    "There are two kinds of music. Good music, and the other kind."

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    Just saw this. Not only is he taking lessons from Wade (no matter what the Kool-Aid drinkers think....one of the dirtiest players and one of the biggest floppers.) on being a dirty player but acting lessons.

    I think this might be the Lebron Zapruder film with his reaction in comparison to what it should have been from the force and angles involved.


    http://instntrply.com/wp-content/upl...4/BronFlop.gif


    P.S. It's definitely a foul, but still hilarious.
    Last edited by Blue Train; May-27th-2012 at 12:19 AM.
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    “Hatred is the coward's revenge for being intimidated.”

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    "As iron is eaten away by rust, so the envious are consumed by their own passion."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Train View Post
    Just saw this. Not only is he taking lessons from Wade (no matter what the Kool-Aid drinkers think....one of the dirtiest players and one of the biggest floppers.) on being a dirty player but acting lessons.

    I think this might be the Lebron Zapruder film with his reaction in comparison to what it should have been from the force and angles involved.


    http://instntrply.com/wp-content/upl...4/BronFlop.gif


    P.S. It's definitely a foul, but still hilarious.
    You don't like flopping. I don't either, but compared to being a selfish player, demanding trades, dissing his teammates in public, flopping is practically saintly. It has nothing to do with whether he is a great player or great teammate. It's clearly the kind of largely irrelevant bullshit people who look for reasons to dislike a great player are forced to focus on. Maybe you should expand your ethical editiorializing to other important topics and convince people that they shouldn't think Miles Davis as a musician due his personal issues. Or that Ted Williams wasn't a great hitter because he was rude to fans and was even known to spit at them.

    Even with all the casual and/or clueless fans out there looking for anything to smear Lebron with based on "the Decision" and the "not 5, not 6, not 7" pep rally, you never hear anything that suggests he isn't an incredibly hard worker and fantastic teammate. (He's also always been pleasant and friendly to fans and the media, despite all the shit he gets hit with) I guess you don't find that as interesting as your Zapruder film. Also, Nice touch equating trading flopping tips with assassination. Insightful.

    PS. It's slightly flattering that you've chosen to use my my "drink the kool-aid analogy" back at me. However, even if Magic, Barkley, Pippen and I are wrong about Lebron being the greatest basketball player in the world, it doesn't apply. My correct use of the "drink the kool aid" expression suggested that people who undervalue or dis Lebron are basing it on bullshit being fed them by the TMZ level crap in the media. By contrast, my position on him is based on my understanding of basketball and what I see with my eyes, and is contrary to the of the crap you hear. By using the term "drink the kool aid" to mean "being wrong" suggests a simplistic level of analysis that distracts the reader from the level of your otherwise scholarly thesis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Schwartz View Post
    Yes he did....once.....1946.....7 game series....first Red Sox appearance since 1918
    Not a very good series.....reportedly injured but played anyway. Cardinal's won

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    See. He sucks too. Just like LeBron. Your stat proves that in his 14 subsequent years of virtually unrivaled production "means nothing."
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    Harden needs to stop leaping into people who have their feet set.

    Slowing Duncan down at the expense of freeing up Ginobli wasn't such a great tactic.

    Stephen Jackson is pretty fucking amazing, and proof of how deep the bench is for the Spurs.

    The Thunder lost, but they never quit. I look forward to Game 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Dave View Post
    The Thunder lost, but they never quit.
    You can say that again. interesting game. They alredy had seriously their ass kicked when they started their comeback run with the hack fest. At the end they didn't quite make it but should feel better going back to Oklahoma. They can do the nasty too. Great game by Parkerrr. Duncan is still the man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uli View Post
    You can say that again. interesting game. They alredy had seriously their ass kicked when they started their comeback run with the hack fest. At the end they didn't quite make it but should feel better going back to Oklahoma. They can do the nasty too. Great game by Parkerrr. Duncan is still the man.
    I should thank Sports Illustrated. In a very recent issue they did a piece on Duncan and the Spurs. It made me realize that this is a guy I should be rooting for, a great, underappreciated player who was an intelligent, kind, private man. On top of that, the Spurs play the smartest team ball and display the best ball movement.

    I think I read the article the day after Indiana beat the Heat in Miami to go up 2-1 - when I believed thought the Bosh loss was too much for a team with a thin roster to overcome. I was happy to really like a team with a real chance to go all the way.

    My predictions: Spurs in 6 over the Thunder
    Heat in 6 over the Celts

    Spurs in 6 over the Heat

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    TRIVIA:

    What do these players have in common?

    Zydrunas Ilgauskas
    Drew Gooden
    Larry Hughes
    Sasha Pavlovic
    Richard Hamilton
    Chauncey Billups
    Rasheed Wallace
    Tayshaun Prince
    Chris Webber
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    Overtime in Miami, That's entertainment!

    For me, most exciting game of the playoffs so far, What a game for my man Rondo. What selflessness. Scoring is not his forte but when the team needs it he scores 44 points! Magic, so far the greatest point guard in the history of the game, just called it the greatest performance of a point guard he ever saw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve(thelil) View Post
    TRIVIA:

    What do these players have in common?

    Zydrunas Ilgauskas
    Drew Gooden
    Larry Hughes
    Sasha Pavlovic
    Richard Hamilton
    Chauncey Billups
    Rasheed Wallace
    Tayshaun Prince
    Chris Webber
    They're all male. They're all still living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve(thelil) View Post
    TRIVIA:

    What do these players have in common?

    Zydrunas Ilgauskas
    Drew Gooden
    Larry Hughes
    Sasha Pavlovic
    Richard Hamilton
    Chauncey Billups
    Rasheed Wallace
    Tayshaun Prince
    Chris Webber
    Never had a dinner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uli View Post
    Overtime in Miami, That's entertainment!

    For me, most exciting game of the playoffs so far, What a game for my man Rondo. What selflessness. Scoring is not his forte but when the team needs it he scores 44 points! Magic, so far the greatest point guard in the history of the game, just called it the greatest performance of a point guard he ever saw.
    Rondo is a freak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walto View Post
    Rondo is a freak.
    yes! within two days he has turned my cool-aid into cognac. Maybe only VS at this time but if he keeps improving on his rate within two years (when he is Lebron's age) it may reach the vanilla taste of a great 18 years Antique. Just the way I like it. Maybe one day it will reach rancio, the highest state of great cognac. The Jordans of cognac so to speak.

    and what an artist. As Magic sez, a player with a basketball IQ off the charts, the most upredictable player, the most unique. Not that there is anything wrong with that in basketball or in general but to me compared with Rondo, Lebron looks more like an incredibly hard working blue collar cat, hopefully not a bricklayer.
    Last edited by Uli; May-31st-2012 at 01:22 PM.

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    Like Cousy, he seems to me to already be having an effect on point guard play around the country. You have to have big hands to fake that around the back pass, though. I think it should now be called "the Rondo"--I've seen high school kids practicing it.

    I think his form shooting the J looks a lot better than it did a couple of years ago too, and I don't see why he couldn't turn out to be an excellent jumpshooter. As I just mentioned on {expletive deleted} Hornacek came into the league primarily as a passer too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walto View Post
    Rondo is a freak.
    More to the point, even a freak like Rondo is not enough this time around. Garnett and Allen are great competitors, but they're running on fumes.
    “America’s not a country. It’s just a business. Now pay me my fucking money.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by walto View Post
    Like Cousy, he seems to me to already be having an effect on point guard play around the country. You have to have big hands to fake that around the back pass, though. I think it should now be called "the Rondo"--I've seen high school kids practicing it.

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    It's a beauty! He just sent Battier (i think) in the wrong direction. clear path to the basket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Dave View Post
    More to the point, even a freak like Rondo is not enough this time around. Garnett and Allen are great competitors, but they're running on fumes.
    The great boxing man , Ray Arcel , once said : You can teach a lot of things but you can't teach speed.

    Go ahead and use that any where.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ran View Post
    The great boxing man , Ray Arcel , once said : You can teach a lot of things but you can't teach speed.

    Go ahead and use that any where.
    ....or the baskertball equal 'you can't teach height'
    Garnett, the tallest guy on the court had his way.

    Heat do not have the killer instinct; they were running the Celts off the court at first, and thought they would cruise......NOT!

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    When will people stop concluding a series is over when the home team wins the first 2 on the road? I wasn't at all surprised the Celts won in Boston. If Pierce is healthy enough, this should go 7. They're still deeper than the Heat without Bosh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ran View Post
    The great boxing man , Ray Arcel , once said : You can teach a lot of things but you can't teach speed.

    Go ahead and use that any where.
    Yes and when you have it you can do deadly tempo changes in basketball. D-Rose, baby. God I hope he will ever be the same again. And since I am in my Rondo mode, I like how Hibbert described it last nite in a postgame comment
    "Rondo has his finger on the yo-yo".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uli View Post
    Yes and when you have it you can do deadly tempo changes in basketball. D-Rose, baby. God I hope he will ever be the same again. And since I am in my Rondo mode, I like how Hibbert described it last nite in a postgame comment "Rondo has his finger on the yo-yo".
    When Rondo is at his best and the Celts are healthy (granted, not the smallest "ifs"), the Celts play start 4 Hall of fame level players. Rondo is the only one who isn't a lock for the HOF right now, yet at his best, Rondo is the best player on the court 95% of the time.

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    I think the Heat is a so-so team without Bosh and that Boston is better than they are. I'm (tepidly) rooting for Miami (I hate both of these teams), but Miami kind of sucks at present. I hope whoever comes out of the West sweeps this crap away, and next year D-Rose and the Bulls, like Siegried and the Hosts of Hogarth or something, redeem the Ring from Fafner or his evil twin or whatever the hell I'm talking about.
    Last edited by walto; June-2nd-2012 at 09:24 AM.
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    Very pleasantly surprised by last night's result.

    Keyon Dooling met Marquis Daniels
    He was workin' cheap, just bidin' time
    Then he laughed and said,"I'm goin,"
    And so he left that peaceful life behind
    Dooling went 3 for 4,
    Daniels 4 for 6...

    jeez, it doesn't rhyme...
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    Wow, we've got a series now!

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    What a finish for young Mr Durant! Still, just means they held service, now back to Texas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squaredancecalling Steve View Post
    What a finish for young Mr Durant! Still, just means they held service, now back to Texas
    Ibaka [sp] 11 for 11 from the field.....great series!

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    Looks to me like it's going to go seven. OTOH, I think your Celtics will win in six.
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    Tonite I hope the Celts win. I'd like the series to continue. Honestly going into it, I would have tought that they could not match Miami. I still think that but I am rooting for the Celts. with Rondo, who knows.

    The OKC series is a beauty too. Kinda not as predicted. Last nite they were kinda deeper than San A until Durant went nucular. And they are winning when they are moving the ball better than the Spurs. I hope OKCs defense may win the series.
    Last edited by Uli; June-3rd-2012 at 11:32 PM.

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    OKC vs San Antonio feels like 7 games w/ both teams winning every home game.

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