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    Snapshots From The Libertarian Paradise

    Drivers Pay Secret Road Tax in $15 Billion for Car Repair

    Gil Giro doesn’t need a license plate to tell where a car is from -- he just looks underneath the chassis.

    “Every time we see a car that comes in from the district, you can see that its suspension is torn up,” said Giro, the owner of Gili’s Automotive in Rockville, Maryland, outside Washington. “It’s almost like the vehicle has been driven off- road.”

    The nation’s capital isn’t alone in offering motorists teeth-rattling rides as U.S. lawmakers tussle over how to pay the bill for mending battered roads. Mechanics such as Giro say they see the hidden tax car owners pay every day in torn tires, misaligned front ends and bent axles.

    Drivers won’t get relief anytime soon.

    The U.S. Highway Trust Fund, which helps pay for road and transit projects in Washington and all 50 states, has been bailed out by Congress three times since 2008 for a total of $34.5 billion. The gasoline tax that supports the fund hasn’t been raised in 19 years, and with the cost of materials such as steel and asphalt on the rise, the fund is expected to have a deficit of about $10 billion this year.

    Car owners already are shelling out far more than that to repair damage done to their vehicles by America’s ruined streets and highways, industry and academic researchers say.

    Motorists pay $67 billion annually for increased fuel consumption, body dents, worn tires and premature wear wrought by pitted roads, according to The Road Information Program, a Washington-based research group. The group’s board includes representatives from construction-equipment makers Caterpillar Inc. (CAT) and Deere & Co. (DE), as well as Vulcan Materials Co. (VMC), a Birmingham, Alabama-based asphalt and concrete producer.

    $324 Per Driver

    That works out to $324 per licensed driver, says Frank Moretti, TRIP’s director of policy and research. The figure is an average of all vehicles and can vary widely between cars and large commercial trucks, which are prone to costlier damage, he says.

    Karim Chatti, a professor of civil and environmental engineering at Michigan State University in East Lansing, estimates that damage linked to poor roads probably runs between $15 to $25 billion annually for car owners, not including tire damage and fuel-efficiency costs.

    Chatti’s lower estimate of $15 billion would cover this year’s projected deficit in the highway trust fund; an additional $10 billion would help prevent the nation’s highways and arterial roads from slipping further into disrepair.

    ‘True Cost’

    “It is a true cost to the nation, there’s no doubt,” says Chatti, who has conducted research for the National Academies on how pavement conditions affect vehicle operating costs. “You start adding them up and you get into the billions.”

    Justin Nisly, a spokesman for the Department of Transportation, said in an e-mailed statement that Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood has often stated that “America’s transportation infrastructure is in desperate need of repair, which is why it is so important that Congress pass a transportation bill.”

    Washington’s lawmakers aren’t close to a consensus on a long-term solution for the nation’s road network -- or even how to pay to keep highways from deteriorating even further.

    The last comprehensive highway policy and funding bill passed in 2005 and ran through 2009. Highway funding has continued since then through nine extensions, the most recent of which is set to expire June 30.

    The House has passed a 10th extension that would continue funding through Sept. 30. The Senate approved a two-year bill which the House hasn’t considered.

    Long-Term Bill

    “The key is passing a long-term funding bill,” says Michael Green, a spokesman for the American Automobile Association, a non-profit motor club and leisure travel organization with 53 million members in North America. “Without that, states and counties can’t implement projects.”

    President Barack Obama’s 2013 budget proposal calls for highway funding to be paid for through savings assumed from the scaling back of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    There is no proposal before Congress to increase the 18.4- cent-a-gallon gasoline tax, last raised in 1993, during the administration of Bill Clinton. Both Obama and Congressional Republicans have said they oppose any increase in the tariff.

    Senator Mike Enzi, a Wyoming Republican, last month withdrew a proposal to index the tax to inflation when it didn’t attract support. If his proposal had been adopted last year, the tax would have increased to 18.9 cents, according to Daniel Head, a spokesman for Enzi.

    “Senator Enzi’s proposal would not cover all of the revenue needed to fund the Highway Trust Fund, but is about starting a conversation on a long-term fix,” Head said in an e- mailed statement.

    Clinton-Era Value

    Still, to match Clinton-era purchasing power, the gasoline tax would need to rise to 29 cents, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics inflation calculator.

    The funding crunch has been magnified in recent years by a decline in gasoline tax proceeds as consumers drive cars with better mileage and curtail gasoline purchases. Fuel taxes raised a total of $33.7 billion for road projects in 2006, compared with $30.1 billion in 2009.

    One automaker has built a sales pitch around the dire state of America’s roads.

    An ad campaign for Volkswagen AG’s Audi A6 2012 sedan, touting the luxury car’s navigation system, features apocalyptic scenes of pockmarked and litter-strewn roads, noting in one ad that “over 100,000 miles of highways and bridges are in disrepair.” In another, the ad’s voiceover says that “highway maintenance is underfunded, costing drivers $67 billion a year and countless tires.”

    Funding Crisis

    The funding crisis is even more pronounced because the cost of key materials has increased faster than inflation, according to the American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials.

    Steel prices increased 105 percent in the five years to 2009, while asphalt was up 70 percent in the same span. Diesel fuel costs, used to power heavy equipment, soared 305 percent, according to AASHTO.

    Washington’s endless legislative wrangling is good news for Maryland mechanic Giro and bad news for his customers. He says the replacement of front and rear struts for Toyota Motor Corp. (7203)’s Corolla can run as much as $800.

    “I can definitely tell you that bad roads cause extra damage to cars,” Giro says.

    Moretti of TRIP says the situation won’t improve until car owners realize they are already paying a stealth tax through vehicle repairs and pressure their lawmakers for a long-term overhaul of U.S. roads.

    Drivers “are going to pay for keeping the roads in good shape, or they’re going to pay a lot more money for keeping the system in poor condition,” Moretti says.
    “America’s not a country. It’s just a business. Now pay me my fucking money.”

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    The thread title is worth it's weight in gold.

    *applause*

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    I didn't know loaded questions were so valuable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince Kargatis View Post
    I didn't know loaded questions were so valuable.
    Oh, come on. Of course you did.
    “America’s not a country. It’s just a business. Now pay me my fucking money.”

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    Oh come on! That middle photo of SqDcS has EVERYTHING!

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    Twice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne View Post
    Twice!
    Looking at it again, you're right. Didn't even notice that because the general effect is so magnificent. It's like one of those eye puzzles from the nineties where if you squint and try to refocus your eyes just right, Whammo! Huge reward.

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    That picture is what happened when you did the same thing back in the 80's.

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    The guy on the left has ore white things on his neck.

    Is that a performance award?
    Bright moments - right now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by clinthopson View Post
    The guy on the left has ore white things on his neck.

    Is that a performance award?
    I think it's so one sister knows which one not to shag. (although that could be easily circumvented if both male twins are conniving and perverse. And frankly, looking at their getup, even making allowances that this was probably the '80's, I think those girls got taken advantage of.
    Q: 'How do you start free improvising?'
    A: 'Well I usually start on D as a matter of fact'

    "I wandered alone in the desert and cried "Oh Lord! Oh Lord! What hast thou done, lately?"

    "Thought is not a saffron-robed monk pissing in the snow"

    "Bitterness slowly crept into the marriage and by the time Lovborg was six years old his parents exchanged gunfire daily"

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    "Probably" the 80's?

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    But we've already lived in the Libertarian paradise. Well, not we, but our ancestors. And weren't those halcyon pre-income tax, pre-health and safety regulations, pre-labor regulations, pre-safety net days of unchecked exploitation and unhindered wealth accumulation wonderful?

    Some snapshots from paradise:







    And how nice, and ideologically satisfying, it must be for Libertarians to see it all coming back again today...
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    Quote Originally Posted by clinthopson View Post
    The guy on the left has ore white things on his neck.

    Is that a performance award?

    That's a choker. That's what white people like Elizabeth Warren wear when they pretend that they are Native American.

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    For me, a simple set of pearls enhances my ruddy complexion.
    Bright moments - right now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by clinthopson View Post
    For me, a simple set of pearls enhances my ruddy complexion.
    Hmmmm. Mr. Hopson wearing a pearl necklace. Does anyone else think that that's just a whole lot of wrong?
    Q: 'How do you start free improvising?'
    A: 'Well I usually start on D as a matter of fact'

    "I wandered alone in the desert and cried "Oh Lord! Oh Lord! What hast thou done, lately?"

    "Thought is not a saffron-robed monk pissing in the snow"

    "Bitterness slowly crept into the marriage and by the time Lovborg was six years old his parents exchanged gunfire daily"

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    Maybe it's just me, but I think y'all have been sniffing too much glue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey Wozniak View Post
    Maybe it's just me, but I think y'all have been sniffing too much glue.
    Or maybe took too much of this stuff:

    Last edited by baksheesh; May-6th-2012 at 11:16 AM.
    Q: 'How do you start free improvising?'
    A: 'Well I usually start on D as a matter of fact'

    "I wandered alone in the desert and cried "Oh Lord! Oh Lord! What hast thou done, lately?"

    "Thought is not a saffron-robed monk pissing in the snow"

    "Bitterness slowly crept into the marriage and by the time Lovborg was six years old his parents exchanged gunfire daily"

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    Could we stay on topic please?

    Quote Originally Posted by SqDcS
    The only thing I really understand about this picture is the can of Pepsi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey Wozniak View Post
    Maybe it's just me, but I think y'all have been sniffing too much glue.
    It's just you.
    “America’s not a country. It’s just a business. Now pay me my fucking money.”

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    I've never seen Clint wearing a choker, and hope that I never do.

    I'm just sayin'.
    "Timing is everything." - Peppercorn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Thorne View Post
    I've never seen Clint wearing a choker, and hope that I never do.

    I'm just sayin'.
    I've never seen Clint wearing chap-jeans with a mulletty comb-over and being two guys, but shit happens. Excellent work pulling those birds, Clints, but may I suggest that the outfits are a bit garish? Tell them it would be far more discreet to parade around naked. More fun, too. You dogs, Clints!

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    Quote Originally Posted by baksheesh View Post
    Hmmmm. Mr. Hopson wearing a pearl necklace. Does anyone else think that that's just a whole lot of wrong?
    Oh come on! This gets a rise out of nobody?!
    Q: 'How do you start free improvising?'
    A: 'Well I usually start on D as a matter of fact'

    "I wandered alone in the desert and cried "Oh Lord! Oh Lord! What hast thou done, lately?"

    "Thought is not a saffron-robed monk pissing in the snow"

    "Bitterness slowly crept into the marriage and by the time Lovborg was six years old his parents exchanged gunfire daily"

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    Quote Originally Posted by baksheesh View Post
    Oh come on! This gets a rise out of nobody?!
    The question answers itself.
    “America’s not a country. It’s just a business. Now pay me my fucking money.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monte Smith View Post
    The only thing I really understand about this picture is the can of Pepsi.

    Clearly a sexual toy, the book is The SexyPepsi Handbook, and the folder contains notes that the foursome has worked up for a revised edition

    What could be more obvious!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey Wozniak View Post

    Really good mating of stupid and pretentious music with stupid and pretentious thinking! Good job! Should contend for some kind of stupid award

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    Quote Originally Posted by baksheesh View Post
    Oh come on! This gets a rise out of nobody?!

    Pearls? No.

    I can see him not only with ivory necklace, but ivory handled pistols for those that have a problem with the first.
    "There are two kinds of music. Good music, and the other kind."

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    "As iron is eaten away by rust, so the envious are consumed by their own passion."

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