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    I rarely watch TV news anymore, and I don't visit the Fox site regularly, but I occasionally Google an article from them that appears to me as useful and legitimate journalism. They may just be reproducing something from AP or Reuters with little or no editing.

    I'll admit I can't be a judge their overall usefulness as a primary source as well as you. My general impression of Fox, though, is that other than clearly biased editorials, they report the weather, health, science, and other general news pretty much the same as CNN. Maybe there's some unbiased research that supports your view, but I'm not going to search for it now. But you are welcome to provide some comparative examples to prove your point.
    Last edited by groover; February-23rd-2013 at 08:07 AM.

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    Right now CNN's website is leading here with the weather, Fox with gun control issues, so there is some obvious difference, I'll admit.

    I have seen honest reporting on global warming on Fox, though, which might surprise many here.
    Last edited by groover; February-23rd-2013 at 08:11 AM.

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    Sorry to change the subject. We can get back to grammar gripes now.

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    It wasn't thoughtless bias, it was a joke.

    As for comparative analysis, I'm well beyond those days. I don't take any of the infotainment channels seriously. Fox News/CNN/MSNBC/whatever.

    If you want thoughtful and intelligent reporting and analysis give The Atlantic or The Guardian a try.

    If you want those things with a more human interest twist give The Christian Science Monitor a try.

    If you want it in conservative perspective give The American Conservative Magazine a try.

    I highly recommend every one of them. Television "news" I do not. Although Al Jazeera English can be really strong at times. Their election night coverage last year was award worthy, IMO.
    "A crucial task is to perceive how our compassion is channeled towards some and away from others. It's the foundation of all mass violence."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne View Post
    I don't take any of the infotainment channels seriously. Fox News/CNN/MSNBC/whatever.

    If you want thoughtful and intelligent reporting and analysis give The Atlantic or The Guardian a try.

    If you want those things with a more human interest twist give The Christian Science Monitor a try.
    I'm right there with you. I love the Atlantic and plan to give Christian Science Monitor a try (although I can't get through my magazines now. One can only spend so much time in the bathroom..."what the hell are you doing in there??"). Cable news (all of it) is a toxic fucking wasteland. I've grown to despise it. I'm very convinced that cable news, along with Roe V Wade, were the biggest factors in shaping today's political climate and managing to make politics and political discourse even worse.

    My father thinks there's merit in that typical bullshit topical discussion format: The host throws out the topic and then gives the "liberal" 20 seconds to respond and then the "conservative" 20 seconds to respond. As if they can somehow arrive at some higher truth this way. In fact, it's vomit-inducing.

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    Nice part about the CSM, Lenny, is that it's only about 45 pages long each week. So, even if you get behind, it can be really easy to burn through a couple of them in just a few hours. My Sunday mornings are normally reserved for CSM catch up time.
    "A crucial task is to perceive how our compassion is channeled towards some and away from others. It's the foundation of all mass violence."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazzzoline View Post
    Now, start a thread about dont and don't.
    "dont" makes me think of a little ring-shaped fried cake.

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    Why is this such a problem?

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    so many people seem not to know the difference between "its" and "it's". don't understand why this is such a common problem.

    any thoughts?
    I'd never thought this would make three pages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzbluescat View Post
    I'd never thought this would make three pages.
    neither did i!!! LOL!! guess we should tackle the other common problem now: "your" and "you're"!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valerie View Post
    neither did i!!! LOL!! guess we should tackle the other common problem now: "your" and "you're"!!!
    Yep. Somebody could do a college dissertation, use big words and stuff.
    Last edited by jazzbluescat; February-24th-2013 at 03:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valerie View Post
    neither did i!!! LOL!! guess we should tackle the other common problem now: "your" and "you're"!!!
    Or, the more insidious (mainly due to there being three options, two of which are incorrect), "there", "their", and "they're".
    "A crucial task is to perceive how our compassion is channeled towards some and away from others. It's the foundation of all mass violence."

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    And don't forget "thar," usually employed with "them."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Storer View Post
    And don't forget "thar," usually employed with "them."
    You are talking about my native language now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rollhead View Post
    You are talking about my native language now.
    Yew originally frum Nawth K-lina?

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    Yunta go grab some supper?
    "A crucial task is to perceive how our compassion is channeled towards some and away from others. It's the foundation of all mass violence."

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzbluescat View Post
    Yew originally frum Nawth K-lina?
    I'm an Arkansawyer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince Kargatis View Post
    Sqdc's note deserves more (public) credit, since it's the entire reason for the problem in question - "its" is, afaik, the sole exception of its type.
    AHA! There is an entire family of parallel exceptions -- non-hyphenated possessives: its, yours, ours, theirs, and whose! "It's" and "Who's" can be legitimate but non-possessive contractions; the others never take an apostrophe.

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    I love to do the fingers apostrophe.
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    I think you mean quotation marks.
    "A crucial task is to perceive how our compassion is channeled towards some and away from others. It's the foundation of all mass violence."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne View Post
    I think you mean quotation marks.
    Think what you will.
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    "OK".
    "A crucial task is to perceive how our compassion is channeled towards some and away from others. It's the foundation of all mass violence."

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    Valerie: I don't know why it's a problem but some of the responses have been h-i-l-a-r-i-o-u-s. How ya doin'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RainyDay View Post
    Valerie: I don't know why it's a problem but some of the responses have been h-i-l-a-r-i-o-u-s. How ya doin'?
    i'm going to respond to you by email, ok?

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    Its been two weeks since this thread got started. We don't have this problem solved yet?

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    I've asked Pete Barbutti to give us one of his clear explanations.
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    Speaking of Pete Barbutti, Clint, did the Microscopic Septet steal part of Barbutti's Fourth Trumpet routine?




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    verily language doth inhabit, tymes in which it was spoken
    thus the language grows and falls on how much dope you've smoken

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    Last week we saw Pete who explained the structure of the blues for abut five minutes. I think Peplowski got most of it.

    Does anyone else play bebop cigar?
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    Hey clint ...hope all is well with you mate...as far as i can see, the blues are tears, soul is the sound of trying to find a mate, salsa is dancing, rock is running and jazz is the itch in your pants

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    Quote Originally Posted by tippy View Post
    "dont" makes me think of a little ring-shaped fried cake.
    Gee, when did "donut" become the acceptable alternate spelling for "doughnut"? Oh, thank you Mr. Wiki:

    The first known printed use of donut was in Peck's Bad Boy and his Pa by George W. Peck, published in 1900, in which a character is quoted as saying, "Pa said he guessed he hadn't got much appetite, and he would just drink a cup of coffee and eat a donut."[10] According to John T. Edge (Donuts, an American passion 2006) the alternative spelling “donut” was invented when the New York–based Display Doughnut Machine Corporation abbreviated the word to make it more pronounceable by the foreigners they hoped would buy their automated doughnut making equipment.
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