Chirac and Mugabe

[Gordon B]

Chirac is a revolting human being. Are there any Presidential alternatives to Chirac than socialists and fascists?

What's going on in Zimbabwe is utterly sickening.


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[Uli]

Originally posted by Gordon B
Chirac is a revolting human being. Are there any Presidential alternatives to Chirac than socialists and fascists?

Gordon, you're completely out of line with your transparent little revenge act. One can obviously debate if France should have let Mugabe attend this African summit. Even one of the articles you refer to sez:

"Despite strong opposition from Britain, Chirac defended the invitation as a way to confront Mugabe face-to-face over the political and economic turmoil engulfing his famine-ridden southern African country.

However, Chirac's stiff greeting to Mugabe before the opening of the summit was in sharp contrast to the traditional kisses on the cheek reserved for other visiting heads of state from Africa.

But the British press has pulled no punches in its tirade against Chirac's treatment of Mugabe, who is accused of violently repressing opponents and leading his country to starvation. "

Instead of the British press it should probably say the Murdoch press. And that's about the niveau of your post. '

[crawjo]

Originally posted by Uli
Gordon, you're completely out of line with your transparent little revenge act. One can obviously debate if France should have let Mugabe attend this African summit. Even one of the articles you refer to sez:

"Despite strong opposition from Britain, Chirac defended the invitation as a way to confront Mugabe face-to-face over the political and economic turmoil engulfing his famine-ridden southern African country.

However, Chirac's stiff greeting to Mugabe before the opening of the summit was in sharp contrast to the traditional kisses on the cheek reserved for other visiting heads of state from Africa.

But the British press has pulled no punches in its tirade against Chirac's treatment of Mugabe, who is accused of violently repressing opponents and leading his country to starvation. "

Instead of the British press it should probably say the Murdoch press. And that's about the niveau of your post. '

I find it interesting that every time somebody links to an article declaiming Bush as a liar or fascist, people immediately chime in with "right on!" When it's somebody else though, it's "out of line."

Give me a break. What would you be saying if this was Bush, Uli?

[Uli]

Originally posted by crawjo

Give me a break.

Why should I give you war-heads a break? I really don't understand what's humanly despicable in trying to diplomatically solve issues even with very questionable heads of countries. The stuff quoted from the Sun-times is not really the stuff for good political discourse, imho.

I might be wrong, but I really have not read anything that would lead me in any way to believe that Chirac supports any of Mugabe's policies.

[crawjo]

And the stuff Chris links to is good for political discourse?

[crawjo]

And am I to take it then, Uli, that you applaud Don Rumsfeld for shaking hands with Hussein in the 1980s?

[Uli]

Originally posted by crawjo
And am I to take it then, Uli, that you applaud Don Rumsfeld for shaking hands with Hussein in the 1980s?

No, that was a complete different thing and at that point the US really did support Hussein.

btw, yehh I find the articles that Chris posts way above the niveau of the Sun-Times.

[Sand]

Crawjo: "Give me a break. What would you be saying if this was Bush, Uli?"

If Mugabe had been Bush senior, Chirac might have confronted him in French
If Mugabe had been Bush junior, Bush might have confronted Chirac with his illegitimate child.

[Tom Storer]

I haven't read the linked articles yet, but would tend to agree that Chirac is revolting. Perhaps no more revolting than your average head of a large and powerful nation, but certainly no less. Apparently the only real electoral alternatives to Chirac (if indeed he runs again) will be a fascist or a socialist. Guess who I'll be rooting for.