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    Reevaluating @ 500k Pete C's Avatar
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    Top Ten Tenor Tones

    Tenor players whose sound most gets you on a tactile level, regardless (or in spite of) other factors. A number of players who would be in my top ten overall tenors don't make this list, and vice versa.

    in n.p.o.:

    Gene Ammons
    Eddie "Lockjaw" Davis
    Coleman Hawkins
    Ben Webster
    Lester Young
    Stan Getz
    Gato Barbieri
    Booker Ervin

    I'm holding 2 spots open. David Murray, Paul Gonsalves, Archie Shepp & George Adams are among the contenders.

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    Let's see... in no special order:

    Paul Gonsalves
    Lucky Thompson
    Stan Getz
    Sonny Rollins
    Joe Henderson
    Ben Webster
    Lester Young
    Coleman Hawkins
    Dewey Redman
    Clifford Jordan

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    I'll just do five:

    John Coltrane
    Sam Rivers
    Booker Ervin
    Gato Barbieri
    Joe Henderson

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    John L
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    Pete and Tom have it pretty well covered for me, although I would add

    Albert Ayler
    Bill Perkins
    Herschal Evans
    James Carter

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    So far these players do it for me:

    Lester Young
    Coleman Hawkins
    Ben Webster
    Booker Ervin
    Albert Ayler
    David Murray
    Peter Brotzmann
    Sam Rivers
    Fred Anderson
    Wayne Shorter

    Curiously, John Coltrane's tone does not affect me in tactile terms.
    Last edited by stonemonkts; May-6th-2003 at 02:04 PM.

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    Reevaluating @ 500k Pete C's Avatar
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    Originally posted by stonemonkts
    Ray Anderson
    ?

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    Originally posted by Pete C
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    Oops.

    I meant FRED Anderson.

    When I saw your post, I thought you were calling me on my choice of Fred Anderson. After thinking about it, I'd list George Adams ahead of Fred Anderson. Changes One & Two, and Old Feeling alone provide me with more of what you refer to as tactile enjoyment than anything I've heard of F. Anderson.

    Lucky Thompson and Hershel Evans are right up there too.

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    No true order here, though I guess I'd put Jaws at the top.

    Eddie “Lockjaw” Davis
    Von Freeman
    Gene Ammons
    Joe Henderson
    Fred Anderson
    Lucky Thompson
    Joe Maneri
    Warne Marsh
    Ben Webster
    Albert Ayler

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    Originally posted by David Gitin
    no Dexter?

    David: Yes, Dexter had a beautiful and rich tone. But he would get to you by telling elaborate stories, as opposed to puncturing your soul on the basis of tone or sheer "sound" alone. Am I wrong?

    On the other hand, people like Pres, Jug, Getz, Ben, Ayler could hit you with a one-note knockout at any time. In fact, those 5 would probably comprise my short list in this category.

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    Dex did get a nice deep tone on those spoken introductions, didn't he?

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    I remember him saying, "That was 'Days of Wine and Roses - 'Les Jours du Vin Rosé'."

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    David: I'm from Berkeley, myself, although I never saw Dex there. On the other hand, I would never miss him at the Keystone Korner across the bay. I am sure that we must have been sitting near each other at some of those concerts.

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    Two JG's: Johnny Griffin & John Gilmore

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    OK, time to move on to altos. For this category, I nominate:

    Johnny Hodges
    Lee Konitz
    Ornette Coleman
    Tab Smith
    Arthur Blythe
    Gigi Gryce
    Earl Bostic

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    Reevaluating @ 500k Pete C's Avatar
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    Originally posted by John L
    OK, time to move on to altos.
    I'd definitely add Paul Desmond & Jimmy Lyons. Probably Thomas Chapin, Henry Threadgill & Steve Potts too.

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    Some tenor players who have a sound that I like:

    Hawkins
    Gonsalves
    Shepp
    Shim
    Anderson
    D. Redman

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    For altos, I kinda like Cannonball's tone. Konitz too, for sure.
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    For me, I find it a bit difficult to separate tone and phrasing, in terms of my reaction to "their sound".

    Tenors (in no order):
    late Coltrane (check out his tone on something like "Offering")
    Coleman Hawkins
    Albert Ayler
    Stan Getz
    Ellery Eskelin
    Michael Brecker (yes.. though his phrasing is probably part of that, so maybe not completely germane here)

    Nods also to Gato, David Murray, George Adams

    And altos, since they were brought up:
    Hodges, Ornette, Threadgill, Berne, maybe Steve Coleman

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    Tenors - Billy Harper, David Murray and Joe Henderson

    Altos - Jackie McLean, Ornette Coleman

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    Reevaluating @ 500k Pete C's Avatar
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    I can't believe I forgot McLean for alto. It's a love it or hate it tone, and I love it. Also John Handy, especiallly on his recordings with Mingus.

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    I veto Gato from any list personally[unuque sound/a NON-fave of mine], and add someone who had a big unmistakable sound;Stanley Turrentine!!


    In the 'no slouch as far as pure sound department'
    -'Fathead' Newman
    -Houston Person
    -Scott Hamilton
    -Jimmy Forrest
    -Tina Brooks
    -Charlie Rouse!
    -King Curtis
    -[can't mention Gene Ammons w/o] Sonny Stitt who probably makes a few alto lists;-)
    -Branford


    ...in his recent passing have been listening to the *GREAT* Teddy Edwards [underecognized for life]
    Last edited by Mike Schwartz; May-7th-2003 at 04:12 PM.

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    Excellent additions, Mike!

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    Registered User Mike Schwartz's Avatar
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    Oh my goodness...all those tenor players and no mention yet of Hank Mobley!

    Another cat I forgot before, who I saw a couple of times in the '70s with Woody Shaw and others who was a hard-bop/post bop tenor MoFo, Carter Jefferson!

    John L;
    Start an alto thread if you like.

    This one ain't near done, one would think, except as far as you're concerned.
    Last edited by Mike Schwartz; May-7th-2003 at 09:16 PM.

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    OK, time to move on to altos. For this category, I nominate:
    Oh really.

    Being a little quick and/or presumptuous, aren't we..
    Last edited by jazzbluescat; May-7th-2003 at 08:59 PM.

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    John L
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    OK, guys. Just for that, we are moving on to sopranos right away.



    Let's see, in this category we have

    Sidney Bechet
    Steve Lacy
    Lucky Thompson
    Zoot Sims


    and that's all folks

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    That's OK John aka/Bart

    You'll start a thread one day...;-)

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    a few recordings that come to mind where the tone just knocks me off my feet:

    Joe McPhee Sweet Dragon from Tenor
    Frank Lowe on Billy Bang's Valve No. 10
    Lucky Thompson Lord, Lord Am I Ever Gonna Know, the unaccompanied tenor-soprano-tenor piece really woke me up to Lucky
    Gene Ammons Boss Tenor
    Dewey Redman Qow from Coincide
    Tubby Hayes on Dizzy Reece's Blues In Trinity
    Von Freeman Serenade And Blues
    Getz/Gilberto
    David Murray Blues In The Pocket from John Hicks' Sketches of Tokyo
    Joe Henderson The State Of The Tenor

    many more but I am at work so I gotta run.....
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    James Carter
    Michael Brecker
    Sonny Rollins
    Johnny Griffin

    for now

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    You guys were right. I can't believe that nobody thought of Von Freeman until Shrugs. Talk 'bout a "sound."

    Joe McPhee and Frank Lowe certainly also have a special presence of tone. If fact, for Lowe, it may even be the essence of his art.

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    Reevaluating @ 500k Pete C's Avatar
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    Originally posted by John L
    You guys were right. I can't believe that nobody thought of Von Freeman until Shrugs. Talk 'bout a "sound."
    Derek Taylor, post #9.

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