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May-15th-2003, 10:35 PM
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Best/most dynamic jazz bassist?
Would anyone care to suggest who might be an innovator in Jazz bass? Thanks if you can...Curt
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May-15th-2003, 10:49 PM
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William Parker
Mark Dresser
Joelle Leandre
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May-16th-2003, 12:56 AM
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www.steveminkin.com
Joelle Leandre
Barry Guy
John Lindberg
Dominic Duval
Mark Dresser
Dave Holland
Ben Allison
innovative, but not jazz
Edgar Meyer
and, although not innovators, mainstream jazz masters of the bass include
Christian McBride
Ray Drummond
and I can't let the opportunity pass without mentioning the Grandmaster of the Washtub Bass:
Fritz Richmond
Last edited by Squaredancecalling Steve; May-16th-2003 at 01:01 AM.
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May-16th-2003, 01:40 AM
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Originally posted by Sergio Zamora
William Parker
Mark Dresser
Joelle Leandre
now thats a damn fine list.
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May-16th-2003, 03:52 AM
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Each Day Is A Gift.
While I don't have a quarrel with any of the names suggested, I'm quite uncomfortable with the generic implications of the word "innovator" and its countless definitions.
To me, these sorts of best/most/hippest types of qualifiers are problematic at best.
"Who might be an innovator in Jazz bass?"
Are we only discussing "living" musicians?
Last edited by Ron Thorne; May-16th-2003 at 03:54 AM.
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May-16th-2003, 03:54 AM
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i was tempted to mention the late jaco but those mentioned above all fits the bill as dynamic. i'll add tatsu aoki, barre philips and henri texier.
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May-16th-2003, 06:41 AM
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Dead or alive; I add Charles Mingus
and the one where I started with: Slam Stewart
Last edited by hermann; May-17th-2003 at 05:36 PM.
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May-16th-2003, 07:39 AM
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Hartsell Cash, 1924-2006
Scott LaFaro.
Charles Mingus.
William Parker.
Steve Swallow.
Dave Holland.
(Limiting to living musicians seems so...limiting.)
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May-16th-2003, 08:37 AM
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swing high swing higher
big three
John Edwards
Simon H. Fell
Paul Rogers
and if you've never heard Barry Guy.....
and lady Joelle is just incredible
Dresser is great - NO ONE has a bigger sound live
and in FOUR days - Paul Rogers live
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May-16th-2003, 08:42 AM
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May-16th-2003, 10:56 AM
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live: Dave Holland
departed: Ray Brown
Mingus, and many others
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May-16th-2003, 11:09 AM
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Arbiter of Good Taste
I like all the names mentioned so far - but am surprised nobody has mentioned Paul Chambers - Mr. PC - so good, Coltrane wrote a tune for him!
And for technical ability how about Nils Henning Orsted Pederson - can I say NHOP !
Ron Carter has been on so many great records, you can't leave him out!!
For great sound and great songs - how about Charlie Haden ...?
But the list is endless!!
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May-16th-2003, 11:44 AM
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I would include:
Marcus Miller
Robbie Shakespeare
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May-16th-2003, 12:26 PM
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with a twist
I'll add Gary Peacock to the list (he is near the top of mine).
Think Mindset with Paul Bley (among other sessions), or his work with Jarrett, Albert Ayler! and Bill Evans.
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May-16th-2003, 12:38 PM
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Hartsell Cash, 1924-2006
Yeah, I thought about Peacock, too. This is another one of those "there have been so many good ones, why bother" lists.
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May-16th-2003, 12:40 PM
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Funny how these kinds of threads get started and Percy Heath's name always seems to slip through.
And a younger cat, Jean-Jacques Avenel, the heart and soul of Steve Lacy's groups for 25 years.
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May-16th-2003, 03:01 PM
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I never thought this thread would grow like it has. Thanks to every one of you for adding to the list. I will check out these guys and try to learn from them on the bass. Cheers!
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May-16th-2003, 03:31 PM
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I'll have to go with Sergio's list here also, but I'd also add Richard Davis to that group. Don't know what it is, but I always thought that guy was simply incredible.
Kent Kessler possibly?
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May-16th-2003, 03:53 PM
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I'm the face.
I'm definitely a big fan of Richard Davis, and Santi Debriano, too. But then there's the nub of the question: innovative, or just great?
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May-16th-2003, 04:11 PM
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what about Aichy and Mbizo?
Last edited by shrugs; May-16th-2003 at 04:11 PM.
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May-16th-2003, 04:50 PM
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May-16th-2003, 06:26 PM
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How ' bout
Jimmy Garrison
Reggie Workman
Did anyone mention Sam Jones?
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May-17th-2003, 01:18 PM
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Anders Jormin - Jawdropping intonation and articulation in the thumb position. Plays in Bobo Stensen's groups.
Charnett Moffett - Revolutionary right hand techique on upright. Addresses the strings in a manner similar to the best electric players. Uses his thumb and fingers for a percussive effect - uses pedals and effects. Fun.
Bruno Chevillon - Plays in Louis Sclavis' groups. ...never seen anybody do some of the things he does.
Pierre Cote - From Quebec City. Plays with Francois Carrier. Reminds me just a bit of the magnificent Jean-Jacques Avenel, mentioned above.
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May-17th-2003, 01:27 PM
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François Moutin is pretty incredible live and on record. He plays with Jean-Michel Pilc's trio and with his brother Louis in the Moutin Reunion Quartet.
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May-17th-2003, 01:28 PM
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yeah, Davis and Kessler are absolutely on my list.
Patatucci is no joke either.
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May-17th-2003, 06:57 PM
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Hartsell Cash, 1924-2006
If we're talking about innovative, I still like LaFaro, b/c to my mind he was one of the first players in the "bassist as solo virtuoso" style, the sort of flashy step-to-the-forefront/play lots of notes kind. And he did it extremely well without overly dominating the proceedings. If he'd only lived longer, I think his position on this list would be beyond question.
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May-18th-2003, 09:26 AM
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I agree Tanager, you can also include Gary Peacock and Eddie Gomez.
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May-18th-2003, 02:36 PM
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Peter Kowald, first of all.
Is solo album ("Was da ist" FMP CD 62) has NO equivalent in the history of recording music.
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May-18th-2003, 04:17 PM
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Each Day Is A Gift.
I heartily agree with Tanager's comments with respect to Scot LaFaro, and deeply regret his all too-brief life and career. He and Paul Chambers are at the top of my list for all-time great bassists.

Scott LaFaro
Marc Johnson strikes me in a similar way.
Leroy Vinnegar also had a unique approach, in my view.
Last edited by Ron Thorne; May-19th-2003 at 01:41 AM.
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May-18th-2003, 10:12 PM
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Peace and Light!
Malachi Favors
Palle Danielsson
Eberhard Weber
Arild Andersen
Joony Booth
Marcio Mattos
Definitely: Johnny "Mbizo" Dyani
Sirone
Alan Silva
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