Private Messages

[Lois Gilbert]

There is no posting of private messages on this board w.o. the permission of the sender. The reason for private messages and email is for your personal eyes only. Any private messages or emails sent from one member to another that is posted here will be deleted.

Thanks for understanding
Lois

[Sand]

Originally Posted by Lois Gilbert

There is no posting of private messages on this board w.o. the permission of the sender. The reason for private messages and email is for your personal eyes only. Any private messages or emails sent from one member to another that is posted here will be deleted.

Thanks for understanding
Lois

Do I understand what is said here, Lois. When I ask myself, the answer I get is "I'm not quite sure"

[bluenoter]

Originally Posted by Lois Gilbert

There is no posting of private messages on this board w.o. the permission of the sender. The reason for private messages and email is for your personal eyes only. Any private messages or emails sent from one member to another that is posted here will be deleted.

Sand--

I think Lois is saying that she doesn't want anyone who receives an e-mail or PM to post it here on the "open board" without the permission of the person who sent the e-mail or PM. That happened recently.

Lois--

There is some ambiguity in your post. Will any e-mails or PMs that are posted on the board be deleted, or will only those that are found to have been posted on the board without the senders' permission be deleted? And does it make a difference whether the senders are members of JC?

[Lois Gilbert]

Originally Posted by bluenoter

Sand--

I think Lois is saying that she doesn't want anyone who receives an e-mail or PM to post it here on the "open board" without the permission of the person who sent the e-mail or PM. That happened recently.

Lois--

There is some ambiguity in your post. Will any e-mails or PMs that are posted on the board be deleted, or will only those that are found to have been posted on the board without the senders' permission be deleted? And does it make a difference whether the senders are members of JC?

(a) Rita is correct
(b) Only board members - if someone writes "hey I just go an email from so and so and he's doing great" that's fine. But not anything literal and certainly not quotes from other boards.

[Sand]

Originally Posted by Lois Gilbert

(a) Rita is correct
(b) Only board members - if someone writes "hey I just go an email from so and so and he's doing great" that's fine. But not anything literal and certainly not quotes from other boards.

What Rita said made me feel a lot wiser and your comments, Lois, further contributed to rebuilding my selfconfidence - for now :-)

[Gary Sisco]

We can't quote from other boards on JC?

Why?

[Lois Gilbert]

Originally Posted by Gary Sisco

We can't quote from other boards on JC?

Why?

It's called copyright, Gary unless you have the express permission of the owner of the board -- that also goes for us as well going to other boards.

Best Lois

[Tom Storer]

Lois, what if I post something here and want to quote it on another board? Do I need your permission, or is my own sufficient? Similarly, what if someone wants to post here something they posted on another board? Do they need permission from the owner of the other board?

In other words, who has copyright over what people post: the people posting, or the owners of the boards they post on?

[Kevin Bresnahan]

Originally Posted by Lois Gilbert

It's called copyright, Gary unless you have the express permission of the owner of the board -- that also goes for us as well going to other boards.

Best Lois

Lois, are you saying that if I write something here, you own the copyright to my words? That doesn't sound right. If the words are written by me, I am legally responsible for their context. Therefore, I own them, not Jazz Corner. If I libel someone on this board, they aren't going to sue Jazz Corner, they're going to sue me.

Kevin

[Gary Sisco]

So is every article in every magazine or newspaper but we quote from them all the time on JC. Again, so what?

What has prompted this mysterious and context-less nonissue?

[Pete C]

I'm pretty sure that a bulletin board as an entity does not hold the copyright to individual posts. Each poster holds the copyright to his or her own words. Technically, one would need the poster's permission to reprint beyond "fair use" quoting. See:

http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html

Perhaps a lawyer can clarify this.

Most print magazines don't hold copyright to articles, just first serial rights. I can't imagine an online bulletin board would have further rights than that.

[bostontricky]

But what would the copyright and liability situation be regarding (largely) anonymous posters? The local newspaper had a fairly active BBS a number of anonymous poster and was shut down for or five years ago, and I'm guessing the owner of the site interpreted that he was responsible for libelous posts by users.

[Gary Sisco]

The armies of lawyers have convinced millions of people of all kinds of invented liabilities. They come up with new ones every day. It's good for business. In fact, they wouldn't have much business if they didn't invent shit like that.

The amazing thing is that we pay them.

[Gary Sisco]

Never mind why anyone would *want* to either quote or claim on a copyright on the shit that gets posted around here. I mean, there's a reason why most people use phony handles instead of their names, let's face it.

[Uli]

Originally Posted by Gary Sisco

Never mind why anyone would *want* to either quote or claim on a copyright on the shit that gets posted around here. I mean, there's a reason why most people use phony handles instead of their names, let's face it.

I don't think that phony handles have been a problem around here. Let's face it, some of the more prominent shit posters use their real names.