Wind instrument, guitar, bass and drums

lazy · April-1st-2005, 11:50 AM

Listening now to Jim Hall's Grand Slam and besides me liking the playing I am also very fond of this kind of instrumentation. It's simple and sparse on the one hand but effective and rich on the other.

Please give me your recommendations on albums with similar line up.

SilentKnowledge · April-1st-2005, 02:38 PM

Paul Hession/Alan Wilkinson/Simon H. Fell + Joe Morris-Registered Firm

DVK trio with Joe Morris-Deep Telling

Amalgam-Over the Rainbow & Wipe Out

Richardo Caerleoni · April-1st-2005, 02:44 PM

AND...

With John Surman, Brian Odges, Tony Oxley...ck/out "Binky's Beam"

One of the greatest albums to come out of the UK - IMHO.

RC.

Nate Dorward · April-1st-2005, 03:09 PM

Given the album you're listening to, try Paul Desmond's albums with Jim Hall or Ed Bickert.

lazy · April-1st-2005, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnowledge

Paul Hession/Alan Wilkinson/Simon H. Fell + Joe Morris-Registered Firm

DVK trio with Joe Morris-Deep Telling

Amalgam-Over the Rainbow & Wipe Out

DVK trio? Are you one of those freaks that post as much as possible without refering to the topic?

jazzfiend · April-1st-2005, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by lazy

DVK trio? Are you one of those freaks that post as much as possible without refering to the topic?

What an insensitive thing to say.

BTW, I highly recommend the DVK trio with Morris on guitar.

burning dog · April-1st-2005, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Richardo Caerleoni

AND...

With John Surman, Brian Odges, Tony Oxley...ck/out "Binky's Beam"

One of the greatest albums to come out of the UK - IMHO.

RC.

Binky's beam does my 'ed in!!

lazy · April-1st-2005, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzfiend

What an insensitive thing to say.

BTW, I highly recommend the DVK trio with Morris on guitar.

That was a joke, I'm also one of those freaks.
Do you always have to put a smily so people could see you're joking?

lazy · April-1st-2005, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnowledge

Paul Hession/Alan Wilkinson/Simon H. Fell + Joe Morris-Registered Firm

DVK trio with Joe Morris-Deep Telling

Amalgam-Over the Rainbow & Wipe Out

Thanks man. Your recommendations taken, I'll look for this music.

Nate Dorward · April-1st-2005, 04:26 PM

It is DKV I thought?

Silent K.'s posting correctly addressed the instrumentation, though I doubt the original poster was looking for aggressively loud free-jazz. The H/W/F + Morris disc is in any case a rather oddball encounter since Morris doesn't fit in very well (even Simon Fell himself seemed to think the disc was a bit of a one-off cul-de-sac when I talked to him; I gather it was Ben Watson's brainchild).

Another very nice, if mainstream & fairly low-key, disc I heard recently with the instrumentation is Martin Jacobsen's disc with Doug Raney on Steeplechase. Its model was apparently the Kenny Burrell-John Coltrane sessions, which would be another place for Lazy to go.

lazy · April-1st-2005, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate Dorward

It is DKV I thought?

Silent K.'s posting correctly addressed the instrumentation, though I doubt the original poster was looking for aggressively loud free-jazz. The H/W/F + Morris disc is in any case a rather oddball encounter since Morris doesn't fit in very well (even Simon Fell himself seemed to think the disc was a bit of a one-off cul-de-sac when I talked to him; I gather it was Ben Watson's brainchild).

Another very nice, if mainstream & fairly low-key, disc I heard recently with the instrumentation is Martin Jacobsen's disc with Doug Raney on Steeplechase. Its model was apparently the Kenny Burrell-John Coltrane sessions, which would be another place for Lazy to go.

Nate you remembered my tastes from the Braxton discussion, nice. I'm open to free music and avant garde so maybe Silent K.'s post will be good for me.
Have you listened to the Hall album? Actually it is quite adventurous but most of the tracks have rigid harmonic structure.
Thanks for the Desmond/Hall recommendation.

Nate Dorward · April-1st-2005, 04:45 PM

Yeah, Hall's become a wild man as he's got older!

BlueMiles · April-1st-2005, 06:06 PM

Check out Kenny Burrell and Stanely Turrentine on "Midnight Blue." Perfect pairing.

I think there are at least 4 records of John Scofield and Joe Lovano. Recommended.

Tracks of Pat Metheny with Michael Brecker and/or Dewey Redman on "80/81." Also, Joshua Redman and Metheny on Redman's "Wish."

Don Byron and Bill Frisell on Byron's "Romance with the Unseen."

You'd think there would be more. Wes Mongomery? Grant Green?

Fred K · April-1st-2005, 06:22 PM

Bill McHenry has 3 CDs on Fresh Sound New Talent with a sax/guitar/bass/drums lineup. I have the most recent one with Ben Monder, Reid Anderson, and Paul Motian and highly recommend it.

Fred K · April-1st-2005, 06:31 PM

Ike Quebec, Grant Green, Paul Chambers, Philly Joe Jones

Jimmy Cantiello · April-1st-2005, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by lazy

That was a joke, I'm also one of those freaks.
Do you always have to put a smily so people could see you're joking?

I know those smiley graphics are dorky, but if you used them once in a while it would probably go a long way in fostering a better understanding of what you're trying to say, you know, the internet being the impersonal medium that it is and all. Now I know where you got the name "Lazy".................

lazy · April-2nd-2005, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Cantiello

I know those smiley graphics are dorky, but if you used them once in a while it would probably go a long way in fostering a better understanding of what your trying to say, you know, the internet being the impersonal medium that it is and all. Now I know where you got the name "Lazy".................

You got it right!...

Jesse · April-2nd-2005, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Nate Dorward

Given the album you're listening to, try Paul Desmond's albums with Jim Hall or Ed Bickert.

And Don Thompson, simpatico with either guitarist. Those dates were in frequent rotation in my college years. Hall is a huge talent.

Mark of Cenla · April-2nd-2005, 01:09 PM

The best jazz band from New Orleans started out as a quintet, but when the piano player left, they carried on as a quartet with guitar, sax, bass, and drums. Here are the names of the last two Astral Project CDs:

Big Shot

The Legend of Cowboy Bill

See www.astralproject.com for more information.

lazy · April-2nd-2005, 03:53 PM

23 standarts witn Braxton.
Extensions - a great album by Dave Holland's quartet with Coleman and Eubanks.

Dan G · April-2nd-2005, 04:40 PM

The John Scofield records with Joe Lovano are, in my not so humble opinion

the best thing by either of them. Various bass/drums including Haden and Holland on bass, Bill Stewart on drums.

BlueMiles · April-2nd-2005, 05:49 PM

The first Scofield/Lovano record also features Jack DeJohnette doing some serious ass kicking on the kit.

Charles Lloyd's CD "Voice in the Night" with John Abercombie is also pretty good.

Hey, Fred K, how's that Ike Quebec album? I like that lineup.

The closest Wes seemed to get to this format was "Full House." Johnny Griffin is on tenor, but the fine Wynton Kelly is also featured on piano.

Fred K · April-3rd-2005, 01:03 AM

AllMusic rates "Blue & Sentimental" 5 stars, but I wouldn't say it was quite that good. It's still very good though -- a couple of up-tempo numbers, but mostly ballads and blues. It's a perfect "after hours" CD.

ormsbop · April-3rd-2005, 03:07 AM

Song X Metheny's collaboration with Ornette is in this format but it's the polar opposite of simple and sparse.

Mark Kleinhaut's Balance of Light

Dave Stryker has some good ones too.

It's very different music but same format. Are you looking for same format or similar style of music as Grand Slam?

I think many modern jazz guitarist's play in this format at some point (although Wes apparently didn't). If you check out the guitarists on Jazzcorner many of them have recordings in this format.

BlueMiles · April-3rd-2005, 06:34 PM

I'd also recommend Jimmy Heath's "You or Me" with Tony Purrone (SteepleChase-1995).

Tom K · April-4th-2005, 08:24 AM

Charles Lloyd's mid 1960s' "Of Course, of Course" (w/ Gabor Szabo, Ron Carter and Tony Williams) - if you can find it; it was on Columbia then.

Pat Metheny's 80/81.

Daniel Humair, "Liberté surveillèe" (w/Ellery Eskelin, Marc Ducret, Bruno Chevillon).

Lucas Niggli/Zoom, "Spawn of Speed" Intakt Records. (no bass!)

Dexter Gordon, "Something Different".

Tim Berne/Big Satan, "souls.savedhear". (no bass!)

etc.

Gary Sisco · April-4th-2005, 08:48 AM

I agree with Dan re the Scofield Quartet with Lovano. I think it's the best stuff that either has produced, as well.

But let's not forget Joe Henderson's great *So Near, So Far,* with Scofield, Al Foster, and Dave Holland, another great guitar/sax/bass/drums combo.

There are many jazz quartets with that lineup, though. Many more than we could possibly rec here. Guitar and tenor is a great tonal matchup that was noticed early on.

Dr Dave · April-4th-2005, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Fred K

Ike Quebec, Grant Green, Paul Chambers, Philly Joe Jones

ooooooh, yeah!

Also: Mark Turner's "Dharma Days" with Kurt Rosenwinkel, guitar; Nasheet Waits, drums; Reid Anderson, bass.

BlueMiles · April-4th-2005, 10:48 AM

Damn, how could I forget Joe Henderson's tribute to Miles (with Sco). That's a f---ing masterpiece.

lazy · April-4th-2005, 03:08 PM

Great recommendations friends!
I think that Dizzy loved this format too in the 70s. Anyone familiar?