April-28th-2005, 04:22 AM
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Fired Santana aide blames guru's 'test'
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- A former employee of the New Santana
Band has accused musician Carlos Santana and his wife of firing him for not
being "closer to God," according to a wrongful termination lawsuit filed in
California.
Bruce Kuhlman, 59, said Santana's wife, Deborah, went on a campaign to
terminate him after her spiritual guru, "Dr. Dan," determined through
"calibration" tests that Kuhlman was too old to become enlightened, the
lawsuit, filed on April 13, said.
Kuhlman, who began working with Carlos Santana as a personal assistant in
1988, was running the band's licensing operation, River of Colors, when he
was fired in 2004.
Kuhlman seeks more than $100,000 and punitive damages against the couple
and their businesses, and his lawsuit asks a judge to stop them from using
Dr. Dan's Neuro-Emotional Technique to "test" or "calibrate" employees.
A lawyer for Santana, a Mexican-born guitarist known for hits such as
"Smooth," said on Wednesday he would have no comment on the pending litigation.
The lawsuit said Dr. Dan informed Kuhlman during a series of meetings that
his "enlightenment/consciousness level" was low because of his age, and
"that the more enlightened a person was, the closer to God he was and the
better employee he was."
He also accused Deborah Santana of constantly slurring male employees.
Kuhlman said Deborah Santana hired three new employees -- all of them
female -- after asking Dr. Dan to "calibrate" them over the telephone.
"Dr. Dan would use his wife as a proxy and push down on her arm while
Deborah told her the person's name and certain things from the resume and
interview," the lawsuit said.
"Based on this evaluation by Dr. Dan and his measure of the applicant's
'consciousness level,' Deborah would decide whether to hire them," the suit
said.
Kuhlman was fired after he missed an appointment with Dr. Dan in April
2004, and believes he was cut out of about $250,000 in performance bonuses
from the licensing operation he directed.
Santana, a rock music legend, has toured and recorded since the late 1960s
when he shot to fame during the Woodstock festival. The Grammy-winning
guitarist is best known for recording classic tracks such as "Oye Como Va"
and the recent pop smash "Maria Maria" with guest artists.
Copyright 2005 http://www.cnn.com/interactive_legal.html#Reuters
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April-28th-2005, 10:42 AM
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"Dr. Dan" is the name of a guru???
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April-28th-2005, 10:46 AM
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I guess my odds of passing an audition for Santana's band dropped from 0% to roughly 0%.
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April-28th-2005, 10:58 AM
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Not to worry, Larry. I sell an orgone cone that, if used for a month every night when you go to bed, will raise your "enlightenment/consciousness level" so high that Mr. San Tanna will be begging you to join his cult...er...group. I will also rigurously "calibrate" any women who use my orgone cone for free. The fee for men's "calibrations" is only $14.95.
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April-28th-2005, 11:42 AM
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Raise your hand if you think you're too old to be enlightened.
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April-28th-2005, 12:23 PM
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this is really hysterical and pretty pathetic at the same time. i'm not completely shocked if the allegations turn out to be true as i've always thought of carlos are being pretty "way-out" and "woo-woo" (as we used to say)!
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April-28th-2005, 12:31 PM
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Love, Devotion and Surrender, baby...
Oy...
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April-28th-2005, 12:37 PM
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If the allegations are true, Carlos must have eaten the brown acid.
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April-28th-2005, 01:14 PM
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April-28th-2005, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Noj
If the allegations are true, Carlos must have eaten the brown acid. 
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many, too many times!
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April-28th-2005, 02:19 PM
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this seems really consistent with santanas trully idiotic comments on the electric miles another kind of blue dvd. On that he comes across as maybe the least intelligent man on earth. He actually calls miles music a spirtual orgasm, which is exactly the phrase a bad comic impression of a hippe talking about jazz might use
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April-28th-2005, 03:53 PM
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Dr. Dan
Dr. Dan is our Director of Community Involvement. In addition to being a physician specializing in Emergency Medicine, Dr. Dan is a talented multi-instrumentalist and scholar of philosophy and religion. His common love of music and experiences with the Phurst Church of Phun are at the root of his involvement with Peak Experience. Dr. Dan works closely with the Creative Director in the early stages of Mytheogenesis for each event. His focus is primarily on integrating whomever wishes to accept our open invitation to join in the production. With his wife Jill, he facilitates the selection, training, and management of the theme team leaders, and through several web-based discussion groups for each event, helps to energize, focus and unite those who choose to participate.
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April-28th-2005, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete C
Dr. Dan
Dr. Dan is our Director of Community Involvement. In addition to being a physician specializing in Emergency Medicine, Dr. Dan is a talented multi-instrumentalist and scholar of philosophy and religion. His common love of music and experiences with the Phurst Church of Phun are at the root of his involvement with Peak Experience. Dr. Dan works closely with the Creative Director in the early stages of Mytheogenesis for each event. His focus is primarily on integrating whomever wishes to accept our open invitation to join in the production. With his wife Jill, he facilitates the selection, training, and management of the theme team leaders, and through several web-based discussion groups for each event, helps to energize, focus and unite those who choose to participate.
e-mail: drdan@peakexperience.cc
* * *
The Peak Experience Productions core philosophy is modeled after the belief of legendary concert impresario Bill Graham (who mentored Johnny in the early 1980s) that event-goers are more then just a source of revenue. We believe that each and every one of our event attendees deserves safe, respectful community celebrations that offer nothing less than genuinely profound inspiration and deep, healing joy. Through our audience-participatory activities we strive to help our event attendees be "the Hero in the movies of their lives." Our overall goal is to offer a sense of intelligent, spirited, highly creative adventure that is largely missing from the status quo concerts being produced these days..
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it's "hippie-time" all over again! quadruple OY!
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April-28th-2005, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Valerie
it's "hippie-time" all over again!
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Well, it's better than Giuliani Time.
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April-28th-2005, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Valerie
it's "hippie-time" all over again! quadruple OY!
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Yeah, but hippies never had reality inspectors.
But what I want to know is whether your and Chaz's "OY"s are short for "Oya Come Va" or "OY VEY"?
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April-28th-2005, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Squaredancecalling Steve
Yeah, but hippies never had reality inspectors.
But what I want to know is whether your and Chaz's "OY"s are short for "Oya Come Va" or "OY VEY"?
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LOL!! good ones, sdc!!
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April-28th-2005, 05:42 PM
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But what I want to know is whether your and Chaz's "OY"s are short for "Oya Come Va" or "OY VEY"?[/QUOTE]
ROTFLMAO!
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April-28th-2005, 05:57 PM
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I love Carlos but he is an open and notorious pot head. His wife struck me as being more grounded than he is. If there is a trial, it should be pretty entertaining.
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April-28th-2005, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Squaredancecalling Steve
Yeah, but hippies never had reality inspectors.
But what I want to know is whether your and Chaz's "OY"s are short for "Oya Come Va" or "OY VEY"?
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Steve, that's one hell of a killer observation. I LOVE IT!!!
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April-28th-2005, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RainyDay
I love Carlos but he is an open and notorious pot head. His wife struck me as being more grounded than he is. If there is a trial, it should be pretty entertaining. 
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Rainy, some of my best friends are potheads. What's that got to do with the price of tea in China?
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April-28th-2005, 06:16 PM
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Oh, of course! Carlos' dementia and delusions MUST stem from his THC intake, definitely not the years of frying balls on acid.
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April-28th-2005, 07:38 PM
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Oh jeez, could we not pretend that people who are sky high on weed don't talk like loons? Unless you are high on weed then you might not notice.
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April-28th-2005, 11:02 PM
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Just bustin' your chops!
Seriously though, people who have taken too much acid sound like that sober.
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April-29th-2005, 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RainyDay
Oh jeez, could we not pretend that people who are sky high on weed don't talk like loons?
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Truer words have never been gevorpalschplazted.
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April-29th-2005, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Squaredancecalling Steve
Truer words have never been gevorpalschplazted.
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April-29th-2005, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by RainyDay
I love Carlos but he is an open and notorious pot head. His wife struck me as being more grounded than he is. If there is a trial, it should be pretty entertaining. 
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Maybe he's just a moron.
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April-29th-2005, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Larry Nagel
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When I first saw this, I thought it was a photo of W. with Crown Prince Abdullah.
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May-1st-2005, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Samuel
What ya gotta see is the BACK photo on that record. It shows Sri Chinmoy standing in front of a suburban house clad in a Safety Orange windbreaker, grinning from ear to ear with an arm each around the shoulders of Santana & McLaughlin. The unprinted caption is clearly, {Yiddish accent on} "Such NICE boys! Leessen and enchoy!" {Yiddish accent off}
It's actually one of the most real-life pics of any guru I've seen. It's loopy and positively fun at the same time. Y'know, you never see pics of L. Ron Hoover washing dishes or anything . . .
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i guess you mean l. ron hubbard. lol!! ya got a point there!
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May-1st-2005, 10:56 PM
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"I’ve known for a long time that John Coltrane and Bob Marley re-arrange your molecular structure. I wanted to be part of that. I said to Mr. Clive Davis before I signed the contract that I want to help unify the molecules with the light.’
He said, ‘How do you want to do that?’ "
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"When he [Coltrane] starts a solo with his saxophone,
it actually sounds like his heart is made out of light,
and it is coming out of the horn; the horn is rumbling,
and all of the keys are shooting off light. "
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http://www.miqel.com/coltrane/john_coltrane2.html
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Angels cry because they want to experience what you and I feel: the moment. They live in eternity. They don't know what it is like to read a newspaper and get ink on your fingers. They don't know what it is like to take your shoes off and wiggle your toes under the dinner table.
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When I hit that note - if I hit it correctly - I'm just as important as Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, or anybody. Because when I hit that note, I hit the umbilical cord of anybody who is listening
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http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/au...s_santana.html
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Carlos "Mr. Grammy" Santana wants the world to know that a Santa Claus-resembling angel named "Metatron" is responsible for his hit album "Supernatural."
Santana tells Rolling Stone that Metatron visited him with the following message: "You will be inside the radio frequency for the purpose of connecting the molecules with the light." The strange prediction inspired him to make his new album, get back on the radio and deliver his spiritual message to the masses.
But Metatron is more than just his career counselor. "Metatron is the architect of physical life," Santana explains. "Because of him, we can French-kiss, we can hug, we can get a hot dog, wiggle our toe."
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http://www.sfmission.com/santana/santanaarticles.htm
Ah, so that's why Supernatural was such a shit album!
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May-1st-2005, 11:27 PM
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Ah, so that's why Supernatural was such a shit album!
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I liked it. I liked it a lot. I thought the Clapton song was very good and so was the track that followed it on the CD. I thought the hit track was a nice jam in spite of Rob Thomas. Santana talks like a blissed out pot head but he still makes mighty fine music.
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