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Old September-22nd-2005, 08:51 PM   #1
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Neo-Conservative...wha-???

You just cannot be serious.


Me???


You are accusing me of being a Bush supporter???


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Go back and READ, fer crissakes.



There is no way in HELL I could be considered a conservative on any level at any time.














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Old September-22nd-2005, 08:54 PM   #2
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Quick, someone get the man his meds.
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Old September-22nd-2005, 08:56 PM   #3
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Old September-22nd-2005, 09:16 PM   #4
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DO some freakin' research, boyz.


READ my posts.


You have absolutely no clue what you are professing.



None.

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Old September-22nd-2005, 09:45 PM   #5
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Alright Goodz, I'm afraid I have to put my foot down.

You've had your say, and we've spoken about this privately.

Enough!

Is someone calls you a neo-con, it comes from the same empty headed mindset that has some people calling me a neo-con/right wing shill/Bush lover/war lover/fanatical right winger, etc...............

Those who actually take the time to read our posts know for a fact that you are about as far from being a neo-con as one could possibly get, and that I'm anything but a lockstepping right winger.

I said it to you privately, and I'll say it here again.

Let it go.

Turn around, walk away, and don't look back.

On to bigger and better discussions.
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Old September-22nd-2005, 10:10 PM   #6
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Fair enough.

But it still burns my ass how people here who profess to be Liberals are so goddamed narrow minded.



Divergent thought is NOT a crime, people.
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Old September-22nd-2005, 10:58 PM   #7
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But it still burns my ass how people here who profess to be Liberals are so goddamed narrow minded.
I do not profess to be a liberal in the sense the term is commonly used in the U.S.A.

Dolan, I would never call you a neo-con. Neo-fascist, maybe.
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Old September-22nd-2005, 11:36 PM   #8
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But it still burns my ass how people here who profess to be Liberals are so goddamed narrow minded.


Hahahahahahahahaha..............


Alright, alright...............

C'mon Goodz, you know I had to have a little fun with that one.


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Divergent thought is NOT a crime, people.
Without question. Tim, you're my main man. Ever since the days of the Outcast Shack you and I have had some incredibly bizarre and sympathetic online relationship(diametric opposition can sometimes yield to the unthinkable). So allow me to say that it likely just caught a lot of people off guard when you tabled such a non-left wing thought.

It showed many that you actually ARE capable of thinking outside of the usual Bush-must-die box. It confounded the shit out of them.

So what?

You are still a true representitive of the left. Just not the looney left.

That's actually a good thing.

Pat yourself on the back and move on..............
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Old September-22nd-2005, 11:36 PM   #9
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I do not profess to be a liberal in the sense the term is commonly used in the U.S.A.
Hm.

Do you have any tolerance for divergent views? Can you say you celebrate diversity or do you work to squash it out?

Seems to me that if I was a conservative, I wouldn't be able to see both sides of the issue.






Time to give the Goodster a break, don't you think?





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Old September-22nd-2005, 11:39 PM   #10
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Hahahahahahahahaha..............


Alright, alright...............

C'mon Goodz, you know I had to have a little fun with that one.




Without question. Tim, you're my main man. Ever since the days of the Outcast Shack you and I have had some incredibly bizarre and sympathetic online relationship(diametric opposition can sometimes yield to the unthinkable). So allow me to say that it likely just caught a lot of people off guard when you tabled such a non-left wing thought.

It showed many that you actually ARE capable of thinking outside of the usual Bush-must-die box. It confounded the shit out of them.

So what?

You are still a true representitive of the left. Just not the looney left.

That's actually a good thing.

Pat yourself on the back and move on..............
Good advice.


Thanks, Scott.




Seems only you know the difference.
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Old September-22nd-2005, 11:42 PM   #11
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Seems to me that if I was a conservative, I wouldn't be able to see both sides of the issue.

Oh?

I'm a conservative.
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Old September-22nd-2005, 11:45 PM   #12
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Oh?

I'm a conservative.
Um.


I stand corrected.




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Old September-23rd-2005, 12:11 AM   #13
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Indeed.
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Old September-23rd-2005, 04:39 PM   #14
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Seems to me that if I was a conservative, I wouldn't be able to see both sides of the issue.
So, you really *are* a conservative!
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Old September-23rd-2005, 05:43 PM   #15
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Old September-23rd-2005, 06:15 PM   #16
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So, you really *are* a conservative!
Har.



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Old September-23rd-2005, 06:21 PM   #17
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Scott,

I never seen a consistent nor coherent message from you. I'm not sure what you believe in though I do know you disagree with damn near everyone.

I'd call you a provocateur.
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Old September-23rd-2005, 06:23 PM   #18
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Make that mean sprited, angry, foul mouthed provocateur.
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Old September-23rd-2005, 06:38 PM   #19
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aw shucks....





jus' saved dolan the time...
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Old September-24th-2005, 05:53 AM   #20
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neo-con, neo-liberal, socialst, libetarian. confused.

There is sometimes a confusion of terms between the UK and USA. Economists in the UK call low taxers neo-liberals.

This is an interesting website.

http://www.politicalcompass.org/

I am more libetarian than I thought! I always think I am a bit of a Stalinist compared with a lot of the arts community, I come from an "old labour", trades union background. I scored -6 on the economic scale and -4.56 on the social.

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Old September-24th-2005, 12:26 PM   #21
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I always think I am a bit of a Stalinist
Is that a source of pride?
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Old September-24th-2005, 12:34 PM   #22
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Is that a source of pride?
No at all. In fact I don't consider myself a Stalinist at all, but mildly libertarian. it's just that some people I have come across profess to be pretty hardline socialist and extremley libertarian, I think when you get to the extremes there must be a conflict between the two.
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Can't one be economically socialist & socially libertarian without too much conflict?
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Old September-24th-2005, 12:48 PM   #24
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Can't one be economically socialist & socially libertarian without too much conflict?
Hopefully!


I am according to that website. Where do you draw the line between being socially and economically libertarian? Wouldn't a hardline socialist society have to impinge on certain civil liberties to make socialism viable? I'm talking extremes here.

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Old September-24th-2005, 01:17 PM   #25
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Hopefully!


I am according to that website. Where do you draw the line between being socially and economically libertarian? Wouldn't a hardline socialist society have to impinge on certain civil liberties to make socialism viable? I'm talking extremes here.
Nope, 'tis called libertarian or anarchist communism.

www.libcom.org
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Nope, 'tis called libertarian or anarchist communism.

www.libcom.org
Interesting website Nathaniel.
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No at all. In fact I don't consider myself a Stalinist at all, but mildly libertarian. it's just that some people I have come across profess to be pretty hardline socialist and extremley libertarian, I think when you get to the extremes there must be a conflict between the two.
One can also be a socialist of the hardcore variety who understands the grotesque deviation that is stalinism while at the same time realizing the dead end that is anarchism/left libertarianism/autonomism*. But I don't like to talk politics much, so I'll leave it at that.

*no offense to my friend Nat. It's not like I think it's more of a dead end than American liberalism or anything.
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Old September-24th-2005, 07:48 PM   #28
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Scott,

I never seen a consistent nor coherent message from you. I'm not sure what you believe in though I do know you disagree with damn near everyone.

I'd call you a provocateur.
I disagree, James.

Scott and I rarely agree politically. He and I go back a few years and I can tell you the man's passion is equaled only by his coherent thought.


To Everyone,


I pine for the day when we can just plain disagree without all the f**king insult on this BBS.



It really is embarrassing sometimes.
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Old September-25th-2005, 04:50 AM   #29
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I pine for the day when we can just plain disagree without all the f**king insult on this BBS.



It really is embarrassing sometimes.


You are the board's biggest embarrassment. Why do you want to stay in a place that -- by a landslide -- elected you the most obnoxious poster in the house?
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Old September-25th-2005, 09:01 AM   #30
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I just think there should be more threads with "wha-???" in the title.

"Cecil Taylor...wha-???"

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