September-26th-2005, 07:41 PM
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Just be frank
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Bush, the environmentalist
Bush Urges Conservation as Retail Gas Prices Rise
By VIKAS BAJAJ 3:40 PM ET
President Bush today called on Americans to avoid non-essential driving as the average national prices climbed higher.
>>> He MUST be really scared to make a statement like this.
Last edited by BFrank; September-26th-2005 at 07:49 PM.
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September-27th-2005, 03:46 PM
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Yeah, this is really amazing since conservation (gasp!) will hit Bush & Co. in the only place, other than their sense of power, that it might really hurt them: their wallets. It also speaks to the truly dangerous "entitlement programs" in this country, namely the idea that we are entitled to drive around all we want to in gas-guzzling, luxurious vehicles.
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September-27th-2005, 04:04 PM
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Last edited by Coda; January-17th-2006 at 07:43 AM.
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September-27th-2005, 04:09 PM
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swing like crazy!
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I don't know about you, but most of my driving is for work and I often travel an hour or two at a time. The gas prices really eat into my profits. Today, it cost me $47.00 to fill my tank. That means no more $50 gigs---not even for fun. I can sit home in the dark and make more money. Music just got more expensive, along with everything else.
BTW: I have already cut down on going out to hear other people play which kinda sucks, but honestly, travel for pleasure has been severely curtailed since gas went over three bucks per gallon.
Last edited by cookie; September-27th-2005 at 04:10 PM.
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September-27th-2005, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Coda
And only Bush supporters drive large SUVs.
Come to Massachusetts, more SUVs than anywhere I've been. Even John Kerry drives one....when he's not being carted around in his limo.
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Not what I said. Don;t put words in my mouth, please. However, now I feel I can mention Dubya's preferred form of travel: a very small number of people in a JUMBO JET! Rather trumps a limo on the ol' fuel-wastage scale I should think. Responsible environmental policy crosses political lines, and is much too important to politicize. That said, the republicans' actions tend to undermine environmental efforts more often that those of dems.
By the way, the ultimate example of "unnecessary travel" would have to be NASCAR.
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September-27th-2005, 05:00 PM
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September-27th-2005, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Coda
I agree with the Nascar statement but I think they burn something much different than regular octane gas.
Are you suggesting that our president should drive rather than fly whenever possible?
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It might be a good idea, but perhaps a better evaluation of what constitutes "essential travel" would be in order. Flying to disaster sites to enable photo-ops of faux concern & resolve do not, in my mind, add up to essentials. Pack up Air Force 1 with supplies first, then take the trip. That might be essential.
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October-14th-2005, 11:15 AM
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Thanks, all, for your witty repartee. Even so, it is quite amazing that the Dear Leader would be in a situation where he felt compelled to call for energy conservation. After all, as the Assistant Dear Leader once memorably said, conservation may be a personal virtue, but it plays no part in the real world of domestic policy. Cheney must be foaming at the mouth over this one. Hee-hee.
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October-14th-2005, 12:25 PM
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Wait...if we try to conserve energy and stop driving our monster SUVs, don't the terrorists win?
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October-14th-2005, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by LennyH
Wait...if we try to conserve energy and stop driving our monster SUVs, don't the terrorists win? 
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Been in an airport lately? The terrorists have won.
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October-14th-2005, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by acidflower
Yeah, this is really amazing since conservation (gasp!) will hit Bush & Co. in the only place, other than their sense of power, that it might really hurt them: their wallets.
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Sorry, but I totally disagree. Conservation will just be another excuse for the energy companies to raise prices.
Ask GWB what he has personally done in the last week to encourage conservation.
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October-16th-2005, 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Dennis_M
Conservation will just be another excuse for the energy companies to raise prices.
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Can you please explain this further?
If we conserve, that will mean that there is less demand. Which in turn leads to more supply. Am I wrong in thinking this?
Common business sense says that more supply+less demand means lower prices.
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October-16th-2005, 09:44 PM
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Next year....
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George Bush the Second is a horse's ass.
ANYthing he says realtive to conservatuon is a sound byte directed at his clueless Sheep.
The radical right morons will rubberstamp anything he promotes.
And he knows it.
Get the clue republicans....
Last edited by GoodSpeak; October-16th-2005 at 09:46 PM.
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October-16th-2005, 09:49 PM
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Next year....
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Nah.
Forget it.
republicans can only accept thier party's line.
They don't actually THINK.
Too much work.....it's easier to blame than it is to use your mind, isn't it?
Pssssh.
Last edited by GoodSpeak; October-16th-2005 at 10:24 PM.
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October-16th-2005, 09:56 PM
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Here's the article that I thought I'd never read: government gets the job done quicker than expected and cheaper, too.
True, they only did it quicker and cheaper than the environmental whackos predicted, but it's still a solid accomplishment: 1/7th the time, less than a quarter the cost.
Nuclear plant to be nature sanctuary
Financial Times
By Fiona Harvey, Environment Correspondent
October 15 2005
The site where many of the cold war's deadliest weapons were manufactured is about to become a wildlife sanctuary, as the biggest environmental clean-up in the US was declared complete this week.
Rocky Flats, near Denver, Colorado, produced plutonium and enriched uranium for nuclear weapons from 1952 until 1989, when it was closed down by the FBI because of safety and environmental concerns.
After the shut-down, the government estimated that the clean-up operation would take 70 years or more, at a cost close to $40bn. To the surprise of many in the nuclear industry, the clean-up, which began in 1995, took 10 years and cost $7bn (€5.8bn, £3.9bn).
The operation is likely to be studied closely by governments around the world which are considering reinvestment in nuclear energy in response to rising oil prices, fears over climate change and the security of energy supplies.
One of the biggest costs in any civilian nuclear project is the disposal of nuclear waste and the decommissioning of sites at the end of their life.
More than 21 tonnes of weapons-grade nuclear materials were removed from the site, along with 30,000 litres of solutions of plutonium. The site covered more than 3m square feet, with 800 structures that were decontaminated and demolished, as well as 700 tanks for storing waste.
The 600,000 cubic metres of radioactive waste produced are now being permanently stored underground at other locations.
Although the site is now clear of radioactive material, public access will be delayed until the Department of Energy has certified the area clean. Within 90 days, it is expected to deliver a report, detailing any further measures Kaiser-Hill, which was responsible for restoring the Rocky Flats site, must undertake. Within a few years, however, most of the site will be reopened as a wildlife refuge and park.
Wildlife is plentiful in the area because many animals were able to live undisturbed in the 6,000-acre buffer zone around the 400-acre plant.
CH2M-Hill, parent company of Kaiser-Hill, plans to bid for contracts for more nuclear clean-up operations involving civilian nuclear power facilities.
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October-16th-2005, 10:28 PM
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Next year....
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Oh, I think we blame the Demon-crats.
The bastard sons of bitches.
Everything is they're fault.
George the First told me so.
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