Old October-3rd-2005, 07:17 PM   #1
lynn
End The War
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,947
Texas grand jury indicts DeLay - Again

The Double Whammie!

Texas grand jury indicts DeLay on new charge
House Majority Leader charged with money laundering

A Texas grand jury indicted U.S. Rep. Tom DeLay on a new charge of money laundering Monday, less than a week after another grand jury leveled a conspiracy charge that forced him to temporarily step down as House majority leader.

AUSTIN, Texas - A Texas grand jury on Monday indicted U.S. Rep. Tom DeLay on a new charge of money laundering.

A different grand jury whose six-month term ended last week indicted him on a conspiracy charge, forcing DeLay to temporarily step down as House majority leader.

Both indictments accuse DeLay and two political associates of conspiring to get around a state ban on corporate campaign contributions by funneling the money through the DeLay-founded Texans for a Republican Majority Political Action Committee to the Republican National Committee in Washington. The RNC then sent back like amounts to distribute to Texas candidates in 2002, the indictment alleges.

The new charge was the first action from a new Travis County grand jury, which started its term Monday. Another grand jury, which ended its term Sept. 28, handed up 41 indictments in the three-year investigation.

The new indictment comes hours after DeLay's attorneys filed a motion to dismiss the first case. That motion was based on the argument that the conspiracy charge against DeLay was based on a law that wasn't effective until 2003, the year after the alleged money transfers.

“Since the indictment charges no offense, and since you have professed not to be politically motivated in bringing this indictment, I request that you immediately agree to dismiss the indictment so that the political consequences can be reversed,” attorney Dick DeGuerin wrote in a letter to Travis County District Attorney Ronnie Earle.

The judge who will preside in DeLay's case is out of the country on vacation and couldn't rule on the motion. Other state district judges declined to rule on the motion in his place, said Colleen Davis, a law clerk to Austin attorney Bill White, also represents DeLay.

No effect on the conspiracy charge?
George Dix, a professor at the University of Texas law school who is an expert in criminal law and procedure, said he doesn't believe changes made to the Texas election code by the 2003 legislature have any effect on the conspiracy charge.

The penal code's conspiracy charge allows for the charge if the defendants allegedly conspired to commit any felony, including an election code felony.

Just because the election code was “silent” on the penal code provision until 2003, it doesn't mean it wasn't a valid charge before 2003, Dix said.

“To me it just says, ‘We really mean what we said implicitly before,’” Dix said.

© 2005 The Associated Press.
lynn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October-3rd-2005, 07:24 PM   #2
lynn
End The War
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,947
I'm trying not to get too carried away here, but I can't help but feel a little giddy!

These guys have systematically tampered with the Texas Legislature in order to jerrymander a republican majority. Hope they all spend a few years in jail.

Unfortunately, the guys that got elected by these shinannigans can't be booted out of office.

Last edited by lynn; October-3rd-2005 at 07:25 PM.
lynn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October-3rd-2005, 07:59 PM   #3
tristano's ghost
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,994
Poor Tom is the innocent victim of a partisan political smear. Don't you read the rightwing blogs? The guy's a freakin' Boy Scout... in fact, that's probably why the left hates him so.
tristano's ghost is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October-4th-2005, 06:31 AM   #4
frankiepop
koong
 
frankiepop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,008
Quote:
JESUS CHRIST! KEEP YOUR EYE ON HIS BALLS.
i think dr dave is right! better keep your eyes on tom delay's balls!
__________________
fpop
frankiepop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October-4th-2005, 08:56 AM   #5
jesus marion joseph
holier than thou
 
jesus marion joseph's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 8,708
Based upon what I have heard reported on teh radio, this is apparently the equivalent of what civil litigators refer to as "pleading in the alternative". In other words, they've indicted under a different statute for the same act, in case the first indictment is dismissed, or is untenable at trial. All the same, not good news for an elected official.
jesus marion joseph is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October-4th-2005, 08:44 PM   #6
GoodSpeak
Next year....
 
GoodSpeak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: The San Joaquin Valley, CA
Posts: 23,920
Gee wiz.

Poor, poor Tom Delay.

[tsk, tsk]


Just another victim of the Democratic corporate money machine.




What a shame.


















Psssh.


Last edited by GoodSpeak; October-4th-2005 at 08:45 PM.
GoodSpeak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October-6th-2005, 08:57 PM   #7
frankiepop
koong
 
frankiepop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,008
Quote:
Originally Posted by jesus marion joseph
Based upon what I have heard reported on teh radio, this is apparently the equivalent of what civil litigators refer to as "pleading in the alternative". In other words, they've indicted under a different statute for the same act, in case the first indictment is dismissed, or is untenable at trial. All the same, not good news for an elected official.
on the otherhand, it's possible the money laundering statute may walk on its own legs right with the other charge since it at least appears to have decidedly different elements....

whether they can link delay to these crimes is one question. nonetheless, this may be some serious shit.

(e) An offense under this section (money laundering) is: ...
(2) a felony of the second degree if the value of the
funds is $20,000 or more but less than $100,000; or
(3) a felony of the first degree if the value of the
funds is $100,000 or more.
__________________
fpop

Last edited by frankiepop; October-6th-2005 at 10:50 PM.
frankiepop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October-6th-2005, 10:00 PM   #8
jesus marion joseph
holier than thou
 
jesus marion joseph's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 8,708
Quote:
Originally Posted by frankiepop
on the otherhand, it's possible the money laundering statute may walk on its own legs right with the other charge since it at least appears to have decidedly different elements....
Good point. It's entirely possible that he could get hooked on both charges.
jesus marion joseph is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October-6th-2005, 10:15 PM   #9
GoodSpeak
Next year....
 
GoodSpeak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: The San Joaquin Valley, CA
Posts: 23,920
Texas grand jury indicts DeLay - Again

Now there's a surprise.



GoodSpeak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October-6th-2005, 10:56 PM   #10
Paul B
___---___
 
Paul B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hedges
Posts: 3,243
The "Hammer" is starting to look like a nail...and a crooked one at that.
Paul B is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Jazzcorner's Speakeasy > POLITICS, WORLD ISSUES & WORLD EVENTS

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:29 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
All material copyright 2009 jazzcorner.com