Soul Sacrifice

GoodSpeak · October-4th-2005, 08:35 PM

Cutting edge stuff back in the early 70s.

A hit at Woodstock.

Iconoclastic music for alltime.

Carlos Santana and his guitar raised the bar for not only Latino musicians but inspired millions with his longevity.

Latino Rock at it's finest.

It opened minds to a new genre of music that never got much play before.

Let's hear it from all you Santana fans on this thread.

Right here, right now.

BFrank · October-4th-2005, 09:23 PM

Get the "Legacy Edition" of this album with alternate takes and the complete Woodstock performance.

Do it TODAY!

GoodSpeak · October-4th-2005, 09:24 PM

Cool.

Sounds like a plan, BFrank.

Pete C · October-4th-2005, 10:04 PM

Is this an example of a thread Steve Reynolds might have started 35 years ago?

Noj · October-4th-2005, 10:10 PM

My favorite Santana album is Caravanserai.

Other favorites include his version of "Fried Neckbones & Some Home Fries" and the 15+ minutes of bliss known as "Santana Jam" from the album Soul Sacrifice.

Lenny D.Guitarist · October-4th-2005, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Noj

My favorite Santana album is Caravanserai.

Other favorites include his version of "Fried Neckbones & Some Home Fries" and the 15+ minutes of bliss known as "Santana Jam" from the album Soul Sacrifice.

Caravanserai is Santana's best album. "Song of the Wind" still holds up 33 years later. I always get goosebumps when I play this on my Fender. Also, check out Carlos' solo albums, "Swing of Delight", "Blues for Salvador", and "Oneness". Not as commercial as Abraxas, but jazzier and impeccable. Don't get me started about Santana. A real maestro.

Chris D · October-5th-2005, 09:58 AM

This summer I picked up the remasters of "Caravanserai" (the desert opening kills me every damn time! an album so sublime....), "Welcome" and "Love.Devotion, Surrender." What a fertile time.

Also got "Lotus," and I'd only heard snatches of that. Great "Soul Sacrifice" on there.

Gentle Giant · October-5th-2005, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Noj

My favorite Santana album is Caravanserai.

Other favorites include his version of "Fried Neckbones & Some Home Fries" and the 15+ minutes of bliss known as "Santana Jam" from the album Soul Sacrifice.

Yes, although I don't like the version of Soul Sacrifice on that set. Adding Mike Shrieve was key to Santana getting off the ground, IMO.

Gentle Giant · October-5th-2005, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris D

This summer I picked up the remasters of "Caravanserai" (the desert opening kills me every damn time! an album so sublime....), "Welcome" and "Love.Devotion, Surrender." What a fertile time.

Also got "Lotus," and I'd only heard snatches of that. Great "Soul Sacrifice" on there.

Lotus, Caravanserai, Borboletta (people always overlook this one! Includes Airto, Flora, and Stanley Clarke) Welcome, LDS, all the way to Amigos is my favorite Santana period.

Gentle Giant · October-5th-2005, 03:21 PM

Also want to emphasize my love for Mike Shrieve. Watching him during Soul Sacrifice in the Woodstock movie was the first great drum solo experience of my career as a music aficionado. He was consistently brilliant in Santana, did some decent work with Stomu Yamashta, then made some electronic shit that I didn't get into at all, although often with good partners. Haven't really liked anything he's done for a quarter-century, which is a shame because he's a great talent.

Surfer · October-5th-2005, 03:30 PM

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Also want to emphasize my love for Mike Shrieve. Watching him during Soul Sacrifice in the Woodstock movie was the first great drum solo experience of my career as a music aficionado. He was consistently brilliant in Santana, did some decent work with Stomu Yamashta, then made some electronic shit that I didn't get into at all, although often with good partners. Haven't really liked anything he's done for a quarter-century, which is a shame because he's a great talent.

That is the drum solo to end all drum solos. Freak out skinny white dude on acid.

BFrank · October-5th-2005, 03:31 PM

Back in the 70s, Shrieve used to shop at the record store that I worked in. I had him sign a copy of Yamashta's "Go".

Doc Martin · October-5th-2005, 03:34 PM

Fine Album, Goodspeak, a very popular album when I was in high school.

Are you familiar with Jorge Santana and Malo?

Gentle Giant · October-6th-2005, 01:00 PM

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That is the drum solo to end all drum solos. Freak out skinny white dude on acid.

Soul Sacrifice at Woodstock mp3

J Lee · October-6th-2005, 01:07 PM

Gregg Rolie was tremendous. Carlos Santana certainly could stand on his own without him -- Caravanserei is an awesome example -- but those early Rolie records were beyond inventive.

[EDIT: I just pulled out Caravanserai -- listening to it now -- and see that Rolie was still on most tracks. I thought Tom Coster had taken over by then, but it wasn't the case. Nonetheless, the album isn't really a "Gregg Rolie/Carlos Santana" album in the sense that the original band was, with the keyboard-driven rhythms and vox and such. That rhythmically-inspired organ was such an innovation of Rolie's, I find it hard to consider Rolie in any other role than band leader, which was certainly his role in those early records. But damn! Carlos is out of control on this album! Got to listen.]

Cem · October-6th-2005, 03:22 PM

For those interested in Shrieve's (relatively) recent work, I'd reccomend "Fascination" with Frisell & Horvitz

AladdinSane · October-28th-2005, 04:36 AM

I think that the first few albums (Santana,Abraxas,SantanaIII,Caravanserai,Lotus) are very good albums of Santana. They are earthy, pure and full of creativity. Love Devotion and Surrender is a real gem for me. I listened it over and over. I love that album!Borboletta is also okay.
All the other albums after that are crap for me. I'm talking about albums after Borboletta and the 80s,90s and now. They sound all very fake and not original.

Chazro · October-28th-2005, 08:57 AM

Wazzup All!

Original Santana band fans might want to check out 'Abraxas Pool'. A record put out a few years ago featuring all the original band (w/Neal Schon) MINUS Carlos! If ya dug the old sound, you'll dig this!

Gentle Giant · October-28th-2005, 09:21 AM

There's some late 70s Santana I like, mainly because of Greg Walker, the powerful and very soulful vocalist in the band in that era. "Open Invitation" is a hot tune.

AladdinSane · November-21st-2005, 05:06 PM

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There's some late 70s Santana I like, mainly because of Greg Walker, the powerful and very soulful vocalist in the band in that era. "Open Invitation" is a hot tune.

not really my cup of tea. Just give me some more percussion, heavy bass and good solo's...

Gentle Giant · November-22nd-2005, 08:36 AM

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not really my cup of tea. Just give me some more percussion, heavy bass and good solo's...

Organ, too. The first post-70s Santana album I could stand to listen to was Milagro and it took a few listens for me to figure out why. He brought back an organ instead of the synths. The spirit of Gregg Rolie returned!

Course, now Santana sucks again.

AladdinSane · December-26th-2005, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Gentle Giant

Organ, too. The first post-70s Santana album I could stand to listen to was Milagro and it took a few listens for me to figure out why. He brought back an organ instead of the synths. The spirit of Gregg Rolie returned!

Course, now Santana sucks again.

yep. it's a shame, but fortunately we have his first albums (remastered and well) to remember the legacy of a great and powerful band!

Tanager · January-11th-2006, 04:01 PM

Count me among those who don't think Caravanserai holds up very well. It's got a very dated vibe to me, unlike the three which preceded it (the latin-tinged funk of Santana III has a swagger to it that gets me moving every time). I also can't stand it when Carlos tries to play fusion (or fusion-y stuff), such as on Borboletta, b/c he just doesn't have the chops, IMHO. he was always at his best playing rockier stuff - the closing wailout he pulls off on Mother's Daughter is classic arena rocker boogie, still fantastic party music. While I love Shrieve's drumming, I think the loss of Rolie (and the subsequent turn towards hippie fusion) produced a major downturn in the quality of Santana's output.