Recent Music That Led You Away From Jazz

[Jon Abbey]

y'know, just for the sake of balance.

[jazzy mary]

Neil Young, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Melle Mel, Hank Williams, Patsy Cline.

[sonic1]

As of this week:

Opera, specifically Wagner.

[Steve Reynolds]

well the only type is that funny electro-acoustic strange stuff that no one can decide on a a name - or what it is or isn't - and that was only temporary

for now - we'll see, etc.

now when I hear Cloud and that 3 CD set - maybe it will be more serious...


we'll see, for now, etc.



peace and blessings

[Paul B]

Schubert
Dylan
Waits

About to finally crack the Graewe/Butcher duo I picked up some time ago.

Or maybe Mr. Reynolds considers that jazz....



Bye-ya

[MRS]

Light's View is a fine date, among my most listened to Graewe recordings that's held up.

[Monte Smith]

Madonna's new single, "Hung Up."

Now, I hate Madonna. She's a marketing machine and a poser and a lame human being. Ptuuui! Die, bitch! Die!

But I cannot resist the beat of her new song.

It's too...good.

Must dance/must dance/must dance.

[al j]

to summarize, US Maple

[Monte Smith]

Originally Posted by Monte Smith

Must dance/must dance/must dance.

[Pete C]

Radio interference.

[Gary Sisco]

SUNNO))) -- Black One. I've never been into metal enough to even know who's who and would never have thought it would follow the line of development heard on this one, but what would I know about that which I don't know. I've been listening to this one a lot, esp the live disk w/Ambarchi but I like Black One as well.

AMM and the various eai, noise and etc experiments underway, or those that combine, like GOD whose s/t CD is a favorite, and Yellow Swans -- Live During War Crimes, another.

[Chris D]

New Pornographers and Sleater-Kinney this week.

[moonra]

bob Dylan - No Direction Home (soundtrack)
the black lips - Let it Bloom
the Clash - Sandinista! (remaster)

[lazarus]

The last days I have been listening to great concerts on cd-r with Flying Burrito Brothers, Emmylou Harris, PJ Harvey, Richard & Linda Thompson, Santana and Laura Nyro.

In the last year also lots of "worldmusic". Arabic, african, indian, flamenco and lots of music from Brazil.

The last year also lots of eai. I have bought cd´s from Jon, DMG and Sound 323.

[Frisco]

I think that if one really "gets" jazz and (as Mingus wrote) "Gits it in Your Soul" they can never be led away. Personally, I have spent more time with other music in recent years, particularly modern classical and free improvisation. Artists like Arditti String Quartet, Stefano Scodanibbio, Frances-Marie Uitti. Composers like Iannis Xenakis, Toshio Hosokowa, Isang Yun, Brian Ferneyhough. Free Improvisers and others that blur the boundaries like Simon H. Fell, Carlos Zingaro, Sylvie Courvoissier. But when I hear the avant-jazz sounds of William Parker, Peter Brotzmann, Cecil Taylor or Oliver Lake it still sounds sweet. And when I hear the great Dexter Gordon, Yusef Lateef, Sonny Rollins I have to hear more.

Ok now, who is this PJ Harvey that everyone seems to love?

[Gary Sisco]

Jazz is a constant in my life. There's no "away" from it for me. I do have a habit of adding other stuff to the constants list, though.

PJ Harvey's a rocker lots of people like. She never did all that much for me but lots of others dig her.

[RedJazz]

It's not at all recent, but in my late teen age years (in the late 50s and early 60s) I was involved with a group of peers who were entranced by blue grass. I lived in the Philadelphia area and every summer we would go to a country music park near Oxford, PA called Sunset Park which featured blue grass and other country and western entertainers.

During that same period I worked as an apprentice in summer stock and got an education in American musical theatre and started to expand my record collection to include some of the classic Broadway musicals of the 1950s.

Also that period was the height of the folk music fad and I was particularly interested in Woody Guthrie and the tradition of topical and protest songs. I distinctly recall seeing Dylan play at the Cafe Wha when he had only been in New York for a couple of weeks and he passed the hat after his set. As I recall I was 17 or 18 at the time.

I was, in the same period enamoured with Ornette Coleman (also Stan Kenton and ironically for the same reasons, ie, they were both, at the time, considered innovators) which I now consider an adolescent indulgence and as I got older my jazz tastes became increasingly conservative so that today my preference is for small group swing and classic bebop.

[Jon Abbey]

Originally Posted by Frisco

I think that if one really "gets" jazz and (as Mingus wrote) "Gits it in Your Soul" they can never be led away.

speak for yourself, my man.

[Uli]

Dizzy Gillespie and Machito w Chico O'Farrill-Afro Cuban Jazz Moods (nerds mite argue of course, that's why they called it Afro Cuban Jazz Moods, I guess)
Mustapha Tetey Addy-master drummer from Ghana
Herbie Hancock/Foday Musa Suso-village life
Frank Lowe-decision in Paradise (sorry folks!)
Culture-international herb
Albert Ayler-Loerrach concert (still border stretching. Mortitioner's feel free to disagree)
Mustapha Tetey Addy-master drummer from Ghana (this cat is something else).

[jazzy mary]

Gary has a good point. I'm never "away" from jazz, I listen to it about 95% of the time.

I'm listening to Harry "sweets" Edison right now. My list is some music that I've been listening to *instead* of jazz lately. So, in that respect, it's taking that precious extra few hours away from my jazz listening. It's great music, though.

[Vince Kargatis]

Originally Posted by Frisco

Ok now, who is this PJ Harvey that everyone seems to love?

You know how to use AMG, right?

[dex68]

I also must say that I'm never really "away" from jazz, but...

I've been trying to hip my girls to alot of music they'd never hear otherwise, like the Stones, Beatles, Paul Simon.. my 7 year old now loves Regatta de Blanc by the Police, and plays it ceaslessly. It's funny, you can never tell what'll stick. Anyway, it's been fun getting to know that stuff again.

Part of my purpose is to get my older girl (11) to try to add some new ideas to her piano playing. Her lessons are entirely classical, and though her teacher is wonderful, she has no clue about jazz or pop music. It hasn't worked yet, but maybe it'll seep in...

[Frisco]

Originally Posted by Jon Abbey

speak for yourself, my man.

OK, I'll speak for myself, but I think that what I'm saying holds true for most jazz lovers. It's not like music that was a novelty, then the novelty got old and one needed to look elsewhere for something new. Jazz has always been about real feelings expressed through music. How does one totally lose that sense of feeling? I guess it can and does happen though. But I would question just how much it meant to that person in the first place, to totally abandon it as they heard new music.

[Frisco]

Originally Posted by Vince Kargatis

You know how to use AMG, right?

Not really. I never saw the book. Would anybody be so kind to explain Ms. Harvey's music? I'd be glad to reciprocate with thoughts about the composer Jonathan Harvey, though I know only a portion of his work.

[Jon Abbey]

Pat, just because a relationship ends doesn't mean that the feelings felt during the course of that relationship didn't exist, it doesn't change those retroactively.

[Frisco]

Originally Posted by Jon Abbey

Pat, just because a relationship ends doesn't mean that the feelings felt during the course of that relationship didn't exist, it doesn't change those retroactively.

I guess you're right. I just find it hard to understand. I really can't relate to the whole premise of the thread that other recent musics could lead one away from jazz though I suspect it was started in fun.

[Scott Dolan]

Bluegrass

[Gary Sisco]

Far's I know everyone speaks for him or herself.

Some people obviously move away from jazz and all other musics as well. I moved away from rock in 1970, for example. One door closes, another opens.

I've been with jazz since a kid so it's unlikely at my age I'd not keep sticking with it, but most people's tastes change overtime, let's face it, even within forms of music.

I'm hoping yet another jazz v. whatever doesn't get started here, however. Lois created a new forum for other music because people were complaining about other music being discussed at speakeasy. I hope therefore that people can discuss other music here at Other Music without getting into all of that again. Every music person I know, players included, listens to more than one form of music.

[blawless]

Yeah, Jon! What Gary said!

[groover]

There hasn't been any recent music that has led me away from jazz. I do try to vary my listening occasionally with other genres, but I still mostly listen to jazz these days.

I did move away from jazz in the late seventies when I felt there was a resurgence of interesting rock music, and I started seriously studying the guitar. Although I studied some jazz technique, I found rock much more approachable as a beginner.

After about fifteen years of playing and listening mostly to rock, I felt comfortable enough with my level of ability to be less initimidated by jazz and to seriously try to play some. I still play a lot of rock, but I'm working on playing some kind of jazz, and fusing it with my rock playing where it works. I hope to continue with it and improve my ability.

Maybe someday, after I've completely mastered playing jazz, I'll get bored with it and abandon it, but I doubt I'll live that long or ever really feel that way about it.