December-28th-2005, 05:37 PM
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justin guarini(first jazz album , jazz standards)
This cd is amazing, i have it myself and i personaly think that there is not a bad song on there...all great jazz standards and one new track
Justin Guarini - vocals
Greg Gordon Smith - piano
Ian Martin - bass
Jamey Tate - drums
Katisse Buckingham - flute / sax
you can listnen to these 4 clips and order his cd on his website
night and day
my funny valentine
i love you
young and foolish
www.justinguarini.com
1. Night & Day
2. My Funny Valentine
3. Just Squeeze Me
4. I'll Take Romance
5. I Didn't Know What Time It Was
6. I Love You
7. Young & Foolish
8. All Of You
9. Stranger Things Have Happened To Me
10. Sing
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December-28th-2005, 05:47 PM
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Shill-O-Vision!
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December-28th-2005, 05:55 PM
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Kills all threads!
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Originally Posted by Chris D
Shill-O-Vision!
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Hey, man, a guy's gotta make a living somehow.
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December-28th-2005, 07:00 PM
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I checked out the samples, hoping for the best. Unfortunately, his readings of these great songs is stiff, even stilted, with no originality or vocal maturity.
This puppy should not have been released.
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December-28th-2005, 07:36 PM
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He's no Rick Della Ratta......
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December-28th-2005, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Peterdubya
He's no Rick Della Ratta......
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Or even Mark Murphy....
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December-29th-2005, 12:54 PM
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no he's justin guarini....he's not trying to be someone else
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December-29th-2005, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by alovinj
no he's justin guarini....he's not trying to be someone else
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Intriguing. Tell us more.
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December-29th-2005, 03:11 PM
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I listened to every clip completely. The cat doesn't have a bad voice but he doesn't have the maturity to breathe life into the lyrics of these songs. A vocalist can't just release an album of great songs and think that's it. See, for example, Rod Stewart, a great interpreter of his own lyrics i.e. "Every Picture Tells A Story" but nowheresville GAS-wise. You have to imbue the lyrics with your own reading and feeling. Sometimes I think I should start an acting class, not unlike the one I taught in grad. school, where I would have actors reach the emotional core of a script, a piece of acting, a monologue or a speech through physical and emotional memory--not an acting class, per se, but a class where the interpreter ( a singer, dancer or actor) of the piece studies and works with the piece. In the case of lyrics, this would encompass really reading and figuring out what the lyrics are saying, what story are the lyrics telling? And now, how does the story resonate with *you*, what do you feel and think about it, what, in your own life, makes you relate to these lyrics? That way the interpreter can reach a true, inner core of feeling in regards to the lyrics and makes it much more meaningful for them and for the listener. Does anyone dig what I'm saying?
Most people don't even know that most GAS songs were written for musicals and have meaning in regards to the characters' lives and plot of the musical. I've even heard people sing "Love for Sale" like it's a happy go lucky ditty and in fact, it's one of the saddest songs! Listen to the lyrics, it's about a prostitute's sad life.
Also, the arrangements and the band aren't very good on the clips I heard.. They don't sound like they're playing together. Were they recording together--I mean Justin *with* the musicians? Seeing one another, interacting? They just aren't first call musicians.
Justin, if you read this, get a great arranger, have him or her hire the BEST jazz musicians out there--don't worry, they are available (if not when you want, wait until they are) and THINK about the songs you want to put on your next GAS album. All the songs should mean something to you. They should somehow be arranged on the album and chosen to be part of the entire work of the album--not just a hodge-podge of GAS songs that you dig.
Hope this helps.
Last edited by jazzy mary; December-29th-2005 at 03:13 PM.
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December-29th-2005, 03:17 PM
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Only e.e. cummings & frankiepop get to use the lowercase "i".
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December-29th-2005, 03:18 PM
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yes they were recording together
and Rob C: what i meant was that justin isn't trying to be someone else caus few said he's no Rick Della Ratta....ofcourse he's no rick della ratta, he's justin guarini
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December-29th-2005, 03:22 PM
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alovinj--
Sorry to add another ornery voice, but you posted #1 twice--once here and once in the Jazz News forum. Please don't do that again.
Lois, our webmaster, appears to have deleted your post in Jazz News.
Last edited by bluenoter; December-29th-2005 at 03:26 PM.
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December-29th-2005, 03:25 PM
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ok, sorry for that
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December-29th-2005, 03:25 PM
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De harder dey come...
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Wouldn't want to discourage him from pursuing jazz, but the bar is set pretty high with tunes that have been recorded so many times before by so many great talents. Jazzy Mary offered good advice.
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December-29th-2005, 03:39 PM
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Thanks, groover!
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December-29th-2005, 03:40 PM
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Maybe mikemiller.com can weigh in.....
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December-29th-2005, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by alovinj
yes they were recording together
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I'd love to hear those cummings/frankiepop duos.
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December-29th-2005, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jazzy mary
Also, the arrangements and the band aren't very good on the clips I heard.. They don't sound like they're playing together. Were they recording together--I mean Justin *with* the musicians? Seeing one another, interacting? They just aren't first call musicians.
Justin, if you read this, get a great arranger, have him or her hire the BEST jazz musicians out there--don't worry, they are available (if not when you want, wait until they are) and THINK about the songs you want to put on your next GAS album. All the songs should mean something to you. They should somehow be arranged on the album and chosen to be part of the entire work of the album--not just a hodge-podge of GAS songs that you dig.
Hope this helps.
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i don't think you can really judge the whole album or the musicians in just those clips!! Who says it's just a hodge podge of songs and that they don't mean anything to him.
maybe you should listnen to the whole album and then give a review.
personaly i don't think people even give him a chance becaus of american idol.
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December-29th-2005, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by alovinj
personaly i don't think people even give him a chance becaus of american idol.
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Widely recognized for his work on American Idol Season 1, where he finished 1st runner up to Kelly Clarkson . . .
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Not everyone may have seen that. But in any case, there are some big American Idol fans here.
My untutored two cents' worth is that the piano sounds out of tune (flat?) in relation to the other instruments.
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December-29th-2005, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by alovinj
i don't think you can really judge the whole album or the musicians in just those clips!! Who says it's just a hodge podge of songs and that they don't mean anything to him.
maybe you should listnen to the whole album and then give a review.
personaly i don't think people even give him a chance becaus of american idol.
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Actually, seasoned music listeners (that's who is here on JC) can judge just by hearing one clip, I listened to all of them, a couple of times, even.
I didn't say these songs were a hodge-podge (and I would have to listen to the entire album to really judge that, how they flow together etc.) but I do think that a lot of singers who love these songs, don't pay enough attention to the songs they choose. I get the feeling they're like "ooh, I like that one and that one and that one", Believe me, I can understand that impulse, there are so many good ones to choose from.
I think you're wrong about us not giving him a chance. We did, we do. We take this stuff very seriously. I did say he has a good voice. I think he could do something with the GAS and probably make a pretty nice piece of change from it, if he tried it again w/ a first rate producer, engineer and musicians.
I'm taking this seriously, alovinj. You should really take our comments to heart and hip Justin.
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December-29th-2005, 05:30 PM
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i'm not saying you don't give him a chance becaus he's from american idol
but on other boards i get the feeling alot , that's why i added it. that and becaus it's the truth.
I respect your opinion, i don't agree with it tho lol....i don't know anything about jazz myself but i really love this album.
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December-29th-2005, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by alovinj
i don't know anything about jazz myself but i really love this album.
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Ah.
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December-29th-2005, 06:32 PM
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i bought justin's jazz cd and love it!
i bought justin guarini's new jazz cd from his website at www.justinguarini.com!
i'm very impressed with justin's cd and his take on these songs are very fresh and innovative! i have played this cd for many jazz fans whom all loved this cd!
each song is very unique and the style is a mix of Jazz and soul and even an r&b groove to it..i think it's the most refeshing jazz cd i've heard in a very long time!
rod stewart should stick to rock and if you consider him to be jazz then this is not much of a jazz board!
Justin's Cd is Real Jazz Cd...not frank sinatra impersonations of the same rendition done a million times! The Band is top notch and they have Toured with the top grammy award winning jazz artist in the business! touring with David benoit and Mindi abair and others! these are Top musicians in the Jazz world!
it's a wonderful and innovative Jazz Cd and it is nice to see some Fresh voices in Jazz and some new style of Jazz as well!
I highly recommend this CD ! Justin's take on My funny valentine on the full version on Cd is Amazing! All the tracks on the Cd are wonderful and there is Nothing ordinary at all about this cd it's great!
His cd is getting great reviews...i guess you need some education in music and jazz to appreciate how amazing this cd is!
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December-29th-2005, 06:36 PM
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Being Educated in Jazz and Frequently Amazing and Amazed, I am always on the lookout for some Fresh Music, so I guess I'll have to Check This Out! Thanx!
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December-29th-2005, 06:56 PM
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December-29th-2005, 09:29 PM
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rod stewart should stick to rock and if you consider him to be jazz then this is not much of a jazz board!
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Holy shit.
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December-29th-2005, 09:34 PM
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Holy shit.
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Yes, after much diligent purusing of this board, this jazzybabe has the collective number of its Rod-loving members but good!
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December-30th-2005, 09:00 AM
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thanks for the little review jazzybabe
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December-30th-2005, 11:17 AM
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Can the shilling for this guy stop now? It's getting a little revolting....
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December-30th-2005, 11:36 AM
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Sheesh...
I try to help the kid out...
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