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Old March-3rd-2006, 11:56 PM   #1
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why macs suck

> http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...60189868317794

favorite line: 'nooooo, that's reserved for the mighty bluuue apple.'
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Old March-4th-2006, 12:27 AM   #2
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Not only is this old, but it has been posted here before(MJB being the first, I believe). Maybe last year, or the previous year.

That said, it still cracks me up to this very day.

I used a Mac at a former job, and I think it sucks even more than this guy.
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Old March-4th-2006, 04:50 AM   #3
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shows you where my mind was at, i thought we were talking mc'donalds big macs.
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Old March-4th-2006, 06:02 AM   #4
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Not only is this old, but it has been posted here before(MJB being the first, I believe). Maybe last year, or the previous year.

That said, it still cracks me up to this very day.

I used a Mac at a former job, and I think it sucks even more than this guy.
well we dont all live and breath every moment online soaking up every jc thread and web porn site known to man. that's what reruns are for.
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Old March-4th-2006, 09:00 AM   #5
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Yes, Macs are awful. Other awful, totally worthless inventions along the same lines: TV remote control, touch-tone phones, microwave ovens, and the cure for polio.
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Old March-4th-2006, 02:53 PM   #6
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My acquaintance with computers goes way back to analogue machines. I've used them all, and a few years ago I junked my PC because I couldn't stand the dang thing crashing all the time. It also turned over my name and other information to every porn merchant on the internet. I bought a simple Mac, and have never had a crash. It's the easiest system to use known to man. My wife, a practicing Luddite, has a Mac and has learned how to use it with no trouble at all.
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Old March-4th-2006, 05:24 PM   #7
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Yes, Macs are awful. Other awful, totally worthless inventions along the same lines: TV remote control, touch-tone phones, microwave ovens, and the cure for polio.


Your subtle sarcasm could use some more nuance.

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Old March-4th-2006, 06:11 PM   #8
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First place I saw this little gem was on PutFile.com. And I have to agree. Mac blows.
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Old March-4th-2006, 06:51 PM   #9
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I beg to differ ..

you guys have your collective heads shoved so far up your chocolate tunnels you're all turning into Klein Bottles!!

macs RUUUUUUUUUUUULE!!!!
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Old March-4th-2006, 08:15 PM   #10
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Unless you have used both your opinion doesn't mean shit.

I have both.....Macs are better.

The only reason a PC is good for anything is because most of the world uses them.

It's typical of everything in our society, the mediocre always wins over quality.
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Old March-4th-2006, 08:20 PM   #11
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Oh, and that guy is a moron. The only valid complaint he has is about file recovery. But seriously, only morons accidentally delete files.....
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Old March-4th-2006, 11:43 PM   #12
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The only valid complaint he has is about file recovery.

Geez, Master Blues. That seems a pretty significant complaint.

Got my new PC last weekend. I was thoroughly impressed with XP before.

Oh my.

The new XP blows the old one away.


Used OS 10 at my previous job. Sucky, fucky, and worthless.

I found no redeeming value there.

And that's being very kind...............
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Old March-5th-2006, 02:53 AM   #13
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This is very ironic because I was just about to ask for some advice on buying an apple notebook.

How important is speed - is there a big diff between 1.33 and 1.5 on an apple.
Can I get away with 512 ram or do I need beef it up. I'm only going to buy new so if you have any suggestions for the cheapest price online that would be swell. I'm watching one on Ebay, MAC warehouse and Macmall are the same prices as apple store.
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Old March-5th-2006, 04:24 AM   #14
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I think it all depends on which audience you're talking about. Anecdotal evidence suggests that power users such as IT professionals and the guy who made the video discussed here are not necessarily impressed by the Mac--many either don't see much advantage or they have something against it. On the other hand, everyday folks who just want to use a computer for ordinary tasks like office applications, web-surfing, etc., very often prefer the Mac.
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Old March-5th-2006, 07:27 AM   #15
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Macs are for geeks, bots and losers; which is illustrated nicely here.
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Old March-5th-2006, 07:34 AM   #16
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Old March-5th-2006, 07:43 AM   #17
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This is very ironic because I was just about to ask for some advice on buying an apple notebook.

How important is speed - is there a big diff between 1.33 and 1.5 on an apple.
Can I get away with 512 ram or do I need beef it up. I'm only going to buy new so if you have any suggestions for the cheapest price online that would be swell. I'm watching one on Ebay, MAC warehouse and Macmall are the same prices as apple store.
If you are going to get a PowerBook, don't get a G4. Get one of the new MacBook Pro's with the Intel Core Duo processor. They are much, much faster than the G4's.

Definitely get more RAM, but don't purchase it directly from Apple. They charge way too much for additional RAM. Go to a 3rd party like http://www.macsales.com/

Are you or any family members in school right now? You could qualify for an educational discount. You save roughly an additional 10 percent.
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Old March-5th-2006, 11:30 AM   #18
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For home computers--

i.e. the ones you don'thave to do any significant number crunching on, I've always found speed is pretty irrelevant. If you're gonna spend much money on enhancements, the place to put it is in as much memory as you can.
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Old March-5th-2006, 11:30 AM   #19
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Macs are for geeks, bots and losers; which is illustrated nicely here.
don't be silly, dude. I've been using Apples since high school, since before the Macintosh (Apple II+, I believe), never saw any reason to change. besides everything else, as Rod said, you're about 100x time less prone to get viruses/trojans/etc.
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Old March-5th-2006, 11:51 AM   #20
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From someone who has supported both platforms for over a decade, Macs suck. OS X is fine, with the exception that you have to use it on Mac hardware, most of which blows. Their laptops have the resilency of a wad of tissue paper. You can put together a PC of equivalent functionality to most Apple products at about two-thirds the price, usuallly less. Mac software costs more as well. I won't even get into Apple's ridiculous support policy or the quality of service I've received at their repair centers.

The Trojan/virus argument is a thing of the past if you use Firefox or Opera as a browser and have Windows XP. The stability issue is overblown as well, as XP surpasses OS X on almost all benchmark tests.
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Old March-5th-2006, 12:05 PM   #21
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I really don't understand---

what's the difficulty you guys find with the Mac support system. They've helped me in many ways, when I encountered something arcane in a program. They give you so much free software with your computer, I don't understand why you need additional software unless you're a game freak. That's ok, but that is an additional option, isn't it. True, theres much more pc software for PC's than there is for Apple. always has been/
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Old March-5th-2006, 12:06 PM   #22
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don't be silly, dude. I've been using Apples since high school, since before the Macintosh (Apple II+, I believe), never saw any reason to change. besides everything else, as Rod said, you're about 100x time less prone to get viruses/trojans/etc.
To your credit you don't proselytize about 'em (the quoted post notwithstanding); those that do remind me of guys that don't get laid enough and blame it on girls not being smart enough to admire their latest slide rule.
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Old March-5th-2006, 02:37 PM   #23
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This is very ironic because I was just about to ask for some advice on buying an apple notebook.

How important is speed - is there a big diff between 1.33 and 1.5 on an apple.
Can I get away with 512 ram or do I need beef it up. I'm only going to buy new so if you have any suggestions for the cheapest price online that would be swell. I'm watching one on Ebay, MAC warehouse and Macmall are the same prices as apple store.
Lois:

My advice is to beef up the RAM as much as you can ( 1 GB or better if the box will allow it .. )

My G4 ( which I love ) I discovered is maxed out at 1 GB ..so , sometime in the next year, I'm faced with the reality of having to spring for a G5 upgrade to get several mor GB of RAM for musical applications ..

BTW: those of you in the music business who use macs for your work, for the time being, I've been told to AVOID the new G5 with the intel chip becasued of potential bugs ( especially with Finale ) that need tot be worked out ..
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From someone who has supported both platforms for over a decade, Macs suck. OS X is fine, with the exception that you have to use it on Mac hardware, most of which blows. Their laptops have the resilency of a wad of tissue paper. You can put together a PC of equivalent functionality to most Apple products at about two-thirds the price, usuallly less. Mac software costs more as well. I won't even get into Apple's ridiculous support policy or the quality of service I've received at their repair centers.

The Trojan/virus argument is a thing of the past if you use Firefox or Opera as a browser and have Windows XP. The stability issue is overblown as well, as XP surpasses OS X on almost all benchmark tests.
That's funny because the old IT at my old job, came from an all MAC workplace before he got to my company, which was all PC. And he couldn't stress to me enough how much better Macs were, and how much easier his job was at the all Mac workplace.

Mac laptops are way more resilient and sturdy compaired to most PC laptops. Shit, I bought my Toshiba a few months ago, and I feel like I have to treat it like a nuclear reactor, just to make sure it won't break in half.
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That's funny because the old IT at my old job, came from an all MAC workplace before he got to my company, which was all PC. And he couldn't stress to me enough how much better Macs were, and how much easier his job was at the all Mac workplace.
Yes, it's easier, because the DFS is uniform. One image will probably work for all of your machines, leaving an desktop guy fuck-all to do. If the hardware breaks down on an eMac, he still has fuck-all to do because if he doesn't have a support agreement with Apple (and what all-Mac outfit wouldn't), he'll need one.

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Mac laptops are way more resilient and sturdy compaired to most PC laptops.
Simply not true, regardless of how fragile your Toshiba is. Aside from some of the lightweight Vaios, I've never encountered anything that has had more problems than the iBooks I've supported.
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Old March-5th-2006, 05:13 PM   #26
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And as for that Consumer Reports article, yeah, Apple's support is much better than HP, Compaq, IBM, etc.

You're just less likely to need their support in a business if your I.T. guys know what they're doing. Even if your Mac guys know what they're doing, a visit to the Apple Store is a common event.
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Old March-5th-2006, 05:13 PM   #27
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Can't argue with the guy about the crashed laptop: I used to have a G4 Titanium for work, and the thing would lock up at least once a day and the only thing to do was remove the battery. It wouldn't respond to anything.

I've owned PCs for about 15 years, and yes, they crash sometimes. But I also worked with Macs for about 7 years. At my previous job, we had everything, dating from the very early days to most current G5s, and they all had a tendency to crash at least daily. The newer the machine, the worse it was. The initial release of OSX was pathetic. And we had to keep old machines around because data from System 7 wasn't compatible with OS9...

Right now, I have in IBM desktop at home with Win 2000, a Sony laptop with XP Home, and at work a Dell desktop with XP Pro and can't remember the last time any of the crashed. And combined they probably didn't cost much more than a good Mac.
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Old March-5th-2006, 07:19 PM   #28
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Earlier on I used to drive a T-Ford in the winters up north.





Now, I drive this car in the summer:




Man, I can feel the difference - and I don't even have to think different or ly or anything.
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Old March-6th-2006, 12:25 AM   #30
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Thank you all for helping me muddle thru - I'm going to stick with PC for my office computers. I think it's imperative for Jazzcorner that I also have a MAC - I don't want to spend a lot of money, I don't travel (those of you who have seen me know I have curly hair cause it's velcroed to the monitor) so I just want a little notebook and I started looking at the Ibook, but I think I'm better off with the powerbook for a little more money. I don't want to spend more than $1500 and that's pushing it...

I know PCs - I presume most of my software won't work on the MAC but I don't need a lot of software - I was thinking I could record interviews and podcasts on it.

Another question -what about memory cards and MAC - for example reading memory stick or SD cards? Do you need to buy a seperate card reader? Or just a USB memory reader. That's important for me. All my PCs have them built in and I have 4 pcs.
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