May-4th-2006, 02:35 PM
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skirting the issue
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The most creative Monk ever?
http://myspace.com/hansgroinerplaysmonk
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Originally Posted by Hans Groiner
On the one hand, Mr. Monk had obvious talents, but on the other hand, his piano playing was very messy, and his songs had many funny notes and rhythms. Over the many years that I have been studying his music, I have grown to the conclusion that his songs would be much better, and much more popular, if many of the dissonances, or "wrong notes," were removed.
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And he's right!
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May-4th-2006, 02:36 PM
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Six decades
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Chump.
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May-4th-2006, 02:40 PM
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Middle Man
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Hans Groiner has to be a pseudonym.
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May-4th-2006, 02:45 PM
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ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ__
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Oh man, those are priceless renditions. thx mke!
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May-4th-2006, 02:58 PM
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De harder dey come...
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Now Monk will finally get some supermarket airtime!
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May-4th-2006, 03:01 PM
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www.steveminkin.com
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I'm looking forward to that John Tesh Plays Cecil Taylor Album, too.
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May-4th-2006, 03:08 PM
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I interrupted Dexter to listen to that!!!
"One day, around 1958, I heard a very interesting piece of music that turned out to be a jazz pianist named Thelonious Monk. It pickled my interest because it was very different from anything I had ever heard."
Sounds like his interest wasn't the only thing that was "pickled".
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May-4th-2006, 03:11 PM
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Reevaluating @ 500k
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It's either Thelonious or the guy who first brewed Orval.
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May-4th-2006, 03:13 PM
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Void Where Prohibited
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Man, those are great!
I think the titles should be changed too:
"Well, you Need Not"
"Around Mid-night"
"Little Rooting Tooting"
"I will have it straight, without a chaser"
"Rhythm is the thing"
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May-4th-2006, 03:36 PM
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Be Afraid
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How many pianists in jazz history are more popular than Monk?
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May-4th-2006, 03:50 PM
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The mouldiest of all figs
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Originally Posted by Face of the Bass
How many pianists in jazz history are more popular than Monk?
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Popularity has nothing to do with it. It's genius, baby.
That blogger dude hans is probably a fan of Roger Williams.
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May-4th-2006, 03:51 PM
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Quitting @ 10.4k
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He gets my vote for most creative monk.
Last edited by rollhead; May-4th-2006 at 04:50 PM.
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May-4th-2006, 04:32 PM
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the cantilena of speech
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I hope that's a joke site.... though I don't think so, somehow.
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May-4th-2006, 04:33 PM
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www.steveminkin.com
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Originally Posted by clinthopson
That blogger dude hans is probably a fan of Roger Williams.
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That's the name I was trying to think of! Canadian Sunset, stuff like that.
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May-4th-2006, 04:50 PM
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Quitting @ 10.4k
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My favorite part is how Monk "pickled" his interest, and Hans returned the favor by pickling Monk
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May-4th-2006, 05:18 PM
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Wonderful! Monk made safe for elevators!
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May-4th-2006, 08:15 PM
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Substance User
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May-4th-2006, 08:41 PM
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Registered Eater
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That's some funny shit. Thanks for the laugh, Mwanji...............
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May-4th-2006, 09:32 PM
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How I love robbin' banks!
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Originally Posted by rollhead
He gets my vote for most creative monk. |
Not this guy?
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May-4th-2006, 09:57 PM
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Reevaluating @ 500k
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Originally Posted by Nate Dorward
I hope that's a joke site.... though I don't think so, somehow.
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I think it is, and if it is, it's brilliant. And if it isn't, it's still brilliant.
And on further thought, after looking at the page, I wouldn't be surprised if Hans is Ethan Iverson.
Last edited by Pete C; May-4th-2006 at 10:00 PM.
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May-4th-2006, 10:06 PM
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How I love robbin' banks!
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Last edited by Boris Badenov; May-5th-2006 at 04:44 PM.
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May-4th-2006, 10:09 PM
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Reevaluating @ 500k
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Originally Posted by Face of the Bass
How many pianists in jazz history are more popular than Monk?
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Somewhere between 5 and 100. Oscar Peterson, for one.
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May-4th-2006, 11:33 PM
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Be Afraid
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Originally Posted by Pete C
Somewhere between 5 and 100. Oscar Peterson, for one.
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Just guessing, but it seems to me that 5 is a lot more likely than 100. I was trying to think about this and I thought of Peterson and Bill Evans. I would not count the pianists who were primarily known as leaders of big bands (i.e. Ellington or Basie.)
Anyway, I have a hard time seeing how Monk could fall out of the top 5 of such a list, which, for me, makes the argument that if only his music were different he would have been more popular especially puzzling. I mean, we're not talking about an ignored genius like Herbie Nichols here. Monk appeared on the cover of Time. He's in the canon.
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May-5th-2006, 05:08 AM
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skirting the issue
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Popular with whom?
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May-5th-2006, 08:07 AM
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Reevaluating @ 500k
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Originally Posted by mke
Popular with whom?
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The teeming masses of jazz cognoscenti.
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May-5th-2006, 10:07 AM
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De harder dey come...
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Monk is one of the most well-known, i.e., famous, jazz pianists, no doubt, but that's not necessarily the same as popular, depending on how it's measured.
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May-5th-2006, 10:15 AM
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I don't think you can call Nichols ignored anymore.
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May-5th-2006, 10:49 AM
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6 dim
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Is this what happens when you win a Pulitzer?
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May-5th-2006, 10:49 AM
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