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Old June-4th-2006, 10:38 PM   #1
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Commission: N.C. owes compensation for 1898 Wilmington violence

The poop on guilt. I hope that nobody falls for it; but the way society is getting so politically correct/whipped and brow-beaten, I wouldn't be surprised to see suckers fall for it in the form of reparations. One of these days our mealy-mouthed politicians just might look this crap in the eye and say: "Ha ha, good one."

The Associated Press
RALEIGH, N.C.

North Carolina should provide economic and social compensation to victims of Wilmington's 1898 racial violence, said a panel that also concluded the attack was not a riot, but this country's only recorded coup d'etat.

The report issued Wednesday by the state-appointed commission urged lawmakers to consider economic reparations in Wilmington, including incentives for minority small businesses, compensation to heirs of victims through court action and help for minority home ownership.

"There is no amount of money that can repair what happened years ago and compensate for the loss of lives and the loss of property," said vice chairman Irving Joyner, a professor at N.C. Central School of Law.

The commission did not provide any cost estimates, although compensation advocate Larry Thomas of Chapel Hill estimated that the economic losses calculated today are "probably in the billions of dollars."

"A crime was committed," said Thomas, a Wilmington native who has pursued the issue for years. "Irregardless of the race issue, you'd have to come to the conclusion that somebody lost property and someone needs to be compensated."

By murdering and terrorizing blacks in Wilmington on Nov. 10, 1898, white supremacists were able to overthrow government officials in Wilmington at gunpoint _ the only recorded violent government overthrow in U.S. history, according to the 500-page report produced after six years of study. The plot ushered in a new anti-black political era for the Jim Crow South and ultimately slashed black voting rights.

Some historical accounts had portrayed the incident as spontaneous.

"This sets the record straight," said Rep. Thomas Wright, D-New Hanover, who helped establish and chair the panel. "Now there is an official document confirming this part of North Carolina's _ and America's _ history. Nowhere in the United States has a legitimate government ever been overthrown."

Wright said the next step is to file a bill with the recommendations _ which include that the parties responsible for the violence atone for their own involvement and that the true story of the incident be taught in North Carolina schools _ in the Legislature. That won't happen before 2007 because the deadline for filing new legislation has passed this session, he said.

The violence began when white vigilantes, resentful after years of black and Republican political rule during Reconstruction, burned the printing press of a black newspaper publisher, Alexander Manly.

Violence spread, resulting in the death of as many 60 people and an exodus of 2,100 blacks, the commission concluded. Then the largest city in the state, Wilmington flipped from a black majority to a white majority in the months following the riot.

Wilmington likely became a "catalyst" for the violent white supremacist movement around the country, with other states taking note, lead researcher Lerae Umfleet said.

Later violence _ Atlanta in 1806, Tulsa, Okla., in 1921 and Rosewood, Fla., in 1923 _ mimicked Wilmington, and some white leaders called on the North Carolina violence as an example to incite fear in blacks.

"Jim Crow had passed in a few other states," Umfleet said. "But the whole white supremacy campaign in North Carolina was watched around the country. People built on what happened in Wilmington."

Yale University professor Glenda Gilmore, who wrote about that turn-of-the-century strife in her 1996 book "Gender and Jim Crow," said North Carolinians must understand their true heritage.

"The facts have been there for all to see, it's the interpretation that's been a point of contention," Gilmore said in a telephone interview Wednesday. "Even the most well-intentioned white people think there was a sort of riot, when indeed it had been a racial massacre."

Before the violence, which led to a Democratic takeover from Republicans and Populists, black men in North Carolina had been able to vote for about three decades. But Democrats quickly passed voter literacy tests and a grandfather clause, which disenfranchised black voters until the civil rights movement of the 1960s.

"The growth of Wilmington was stunted as a result of what happened in 1898," Joyner said. "Wilmington has never recovered economically, socially or politically."

Lawmakers established the Wilmington Riots commission in 2000 under a bill sponsored by Wright and late Sen. Luther Jordan.
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Old June-4th-2006, 11:00 PM   #2
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Why are you intentionally seeking to inflame?

Might you not have the decency to at least realize that an issue as sensitive and complex as race is not one you should play with in order to gratify your own sense of correctness?

It's clear that there are some issues that cannot be well-served by posting on a bbs. Step back and stop this petulant troublemaking.
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Old June-5th-2006, 07:48 AM   #3
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I take it you don't see the humor in this.
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Old June-5th-2006, 10:22 AM   #4
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Ever been to North Tulsa where most of the black business community was burn to the ground in 1921 and it's civic leaders murdered because white folks thought they were getting too prosperous. Now every year they have a big jazz festival on the site where their central business district used to be. It's a huge area of Tulsa that was never rebuilt. I guarantee they don't teach that in Oklahoma History classes.

This isn't political correctness, it's justice long overdue.
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Old June-5th-2006, 10:58 AM   #5
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I take it you don't see the humor in this.
Honestly, I don't either.
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Old June-5th-2006, 12:15 PM   #6
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If this reparation bullshit takes off you can damn well expect it to not stop with injustice done to Blacks. Everybody who has had somebody done wrong in their family tree is going to want and be entitled to compensation/reparation. Hope y'all've got deep pockets.
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Old June-5th-2006, 01:40 PM   #7
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[QUOTE=jazzbluescat]If this reparation bullshit takes off you can damn well expect it to not stop with injustice done to Blacks. Everybody who has had somebody done wrong in their family tree is going to want and be entitled to compensation/reparation. Hope y'all've got deep pockets.[/QUOTE]
People can now get DNA tests to determine percentages of various ancestries: Indo-European, Asian, African, and Native American. It goes back about six generations. There are better tests forthcoming.

There may be a lot more folks that can prove they deserve a piece of the spoils. College students with less than 5 percent Asian ancestry, for instance, have become eligible for scholarships that were slated for "Asian" students. People of partial Native American ancestry are asserting their rights to be included the casino racket – to the dismay of the tribes that own the businesses.
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Old June-5th-2006, 04:08 PM   #8
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I take it you don't see the humor in this.
I'm not necessarily sure that the type of reparations described are the best way to deal with or atone for this particular historical incident, but I sure as hell see nothing at all humorous in this story, the incident behind it, or the history of race relations in general.
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Old June-5th-2006, 07:01 PM   #9
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I chose to chuckle rather than get pissed off when I read the Wilmington article. It was a momentary lapse in judgment; forgive me. You're right, there ain't a damn thing funny about it.
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