June-5th-2006, 07:36 PM
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Drug Czar Announces Bad Heroin Supply Bust
Bad Smack!
By CARLA K. JOHNSON
Associated Press Writer
CHICAGO (AP) -- U.S. agents, working in cooperation with the Mexican government, have closed down a lab in Mexico that might be the main source of a powerful painkiller that has killed at least 100 heroin users in eight states, the federal drug czar said Monday.
John Walters, director of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy, said it's still not clear whether the painkiller, fentanyl, was mixed with heroin at the lab in Mexico or after it entered the United States.
"There may be more than one source," Walters said. "We think this is the principal source."
Five people were arrested during the May bust, including one Walters described as "the chemist." He referred specific questions to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency, which declined to provide details immediately.
Walters said that the dealers may have started using Fentanyl because they were looking for a competitive advantage on the street, but that inept mixing - or cutting - of the drug combination made it deadly.
He also warned that millions of deadly doses of the fentanyl-laced heroin might still be on the streets. Fentanyl-laced cocaine had turned up in some cities, as well, he said.
Deaths caused by fentanyl-laced drugs have occurred in Illinois, Michigan, Missouri, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware and Maryland, Walters said.
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June-6th-2006, 10:54 AM
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Imagine All The People
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If it were available on a free market, as opposed to a black market, none of this would happen.
BTW I use Carfentanil (Wildnil) daily which is an analogue of fentanyl, to immobilize very large animals.
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June-6th-2006, 12:26 PM
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I don't know that I'd agree with free market, but the system that they have over in England(registered heroin users) would seem to be vastly superior to our "war" on drugs. 'Course, I'm only vaguely familiar with their system, but the idea/premise sounds more humane and realistic.
BTW, back in my experimenting days, I tried some kind of animal tranquilizer(mixed with pot). It was the absolute most terrorizing experience of my life. It was so overpowering and inescapable that I didn't know whether to run or fight, shit or git.
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June-6th-2006, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jazzbluescat
BTW, back in my experimenting days, I tried some kind of animal tranquilizer(mixed with pot). It was the absolute most terrorizing experience of my life. It was so overpowering and inescapable that I didn't know whether to run or fight, shit or git. 
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PCP. I never understood the charms of drugs that make you feel like you're checking out or nodding off.
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June-6th-2006, 01:47 PM
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Unflappable
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Originally Posted by Doc Martin
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BTW I use Carfentanil (Wildnil) daily which is an analogue of fentanyl, to immobilize very large animals.
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Carfentanil - the number of the beast
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June-6th-2006, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian Olewnick
Carfentanil - the number of the beast
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I literally, just laughed out loud!
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June-6th-2006, 01:56 PM
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Unflappable
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I'm here all week.
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June-6th-2006, 02:18 PM
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On a Related Note
Think DARE was a barrel of laughs? Try anti-drug education in Afghanistan. The country's counter-narcotics department is rounding up school kids, plopping them in poppy fields, and giving the order to destroy:
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"Even with transportation and lunch, students come a lot cheaper than any other work force," explained Zabiullah Akhtari, a senior government official in charge of poppy eradication in Balkh. "We're going to use students several more times before the end of the poppy season."
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Article here http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/jun2...6-06-02-02.asp
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June-6th-2006, 11:17 PM
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Ah, to be a couple years (harrumph) younger, I'd be off to Afghanistan.
I gotta tell you smack's bout the best high I experienced, evah. Well, that and smoking opium.
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June-6th-2006, 11:38 PM
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Happy 50th, Alaska!
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Originally Posted by jazzbluescat
Ah, to be a couple years (harrumph) younger, I'd be off to Afghanistan.
I gotta tell you smack's bout the best high I experienced, evah. Well, that and smoking opium.
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Just when I thought I'd read the most preposterous post on Jazz Corner . . .
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June-7th-2006, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Ron Thorne
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Just when I thought I'd read the most preposterous post on Jazz Corner . . .
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Thanks Ron. It's a gift.
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June-7th-2006, 12:15 PM
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I don't understand why the drug conglomerates don’t court Afghanistan as a source for opium - which is the active ingredient in morphine, codeine, and other drugs that are used as painkillers.
I guess that too many people in high places are making money from the bootleg drug racket for this approach to be tested. From what I understand, Afghanistan is the largest supplier of opium that is used for the European heroin trade.
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June-7th-2006, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Hudson Boy
I don't understand why the drug conglomerates don’t court Afghanistan as a source for opium - which is the active ingredient in morphine, codeine, and other drugs that are used as painkillers.
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In a nutshell; because C17H19NO3 is not difficult to synthesize.
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June-7th-2006, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Doc Martin
If it were available on a free market, as opposed to a black market, none of this would happen.
BTW I use Carfentanil (Wildnil) daily which is an analogue of fentanyl, to immobilize very large animals.
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Who doesn't?
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June-9th-2006, 02:30 AM
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Not sure what happened to my post from yesterday but let's try again.....
I think that for a couple years while those crazy Taliban (who didn't cotton to no drug trade) were in power the Afghan supply dropped from like 75% to 2%. But thanks to Bush's ineffective war on terror those Warlords are back on top and Afghan Poppy Power is here to stay! Something like nearly 90%! You can thank Dubya for more and cheaper drugs and everytime a junkie slams some dope into his veins he outta give a shout out to his main man shrub!
jazzbluescat- You ever try shooting speedballs? In my book that beats the hell out of dope alone. As Burroughs once said "If God made anything better he kept it for himself" Whenever I heard the ad "Coke adds like" I always thought "It sure does!" It's too bad that drugs are so psychologically and physically debilitating. Then again it's probably a good thing.......better to be stimulated intellectually.......well, at least safer.........
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June-9th-2006, 08:26 AM
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Well, we did free the ladies. But, what ever did happen to Osama. Didn't he provide the impetus for our entering Afghanistan. tsk tsk
No, never tried speedballs. I've heard of them though. Just curious, does the speed enhance, make the nodding more "interesting," or does it make you actually move around(physically)?
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June-9th-2006, 01:41 PM
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the heroin takes care of the bad effects of coke and the coke takes care of the bad (nodding) effects of heroin.
pretty much the best feeling you can get out of any substances or combination thereof.
also a GREAT way to die fast as fuck.
highly inadvisable.
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June-9th-2006, 04:27 PM
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blabbermouth
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Originally Posted by jazzbluescat
Well, we did free the ladies. But, what ever did happen to Osama. Didn't he provide the impetus for our entering Afghanistan. tsk tsk
No, never tried speedballs. I've heard of them though. Just curious, does the speed enhance, make the nodding more "interesting," or does it make you actually move around(physically)?
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Well, it's not speed but coke, and it produces an auditory effect sorta like a jet engine. Kinda like a whoosh. They call it "ringing". Listening to music while this is taking place is amazingly intense. And pretty sweeet after the initial rush. This is what sorta hooked me on it. Guitar harmonics were stunning when they hit massive overtones. But as SDL points out, the practice is highly inadvisable.
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June-9th-2006, 09:01 PM
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I can dig it. The best that I ever played, at least thought that I did, was the day after coming down from a heavy acid trip.
I never cared for coke, never really got off on it; but maybe as a speedball.....stop that!  Used to looove fine meth.
Anyhow, weed's my sole vice along those lines(no pun intended, tsk), unless something nice and mighty convenient comes along.
[We know weed ain't really along the same lines, all things considered, IMO.]
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June-10th-2006, 03:32 AM
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blabbermouth
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Originally Posted by jazzbluescat
I can dig it. The best that I ever played, at least thought that I did, was the day after coming down from a heavy acid trip.
I never cared for coke, never really got off on it; but maybe as a speedball.....stop that!  Used to looove fine meth.
Anyhow, weed's my sole vice along those lines(no pun intended, tsk), unless something nice and mighty convenient comes along.
[We know weed ain't really along the same lines, all things considered, IMO.]
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Yeah, these days I adhere to a strict regimen of Houellebecq, Bataille, Bernhard, Murakami (both Ryu and Haruki), Hal Foster and the October Magazine crew to keep me fucked up beyond all belief.......
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