June-25th-2006, 09:02 AM
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The Bluegrass
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So, um, Anyone Listening To Music Anymore?
The board seems to be in one of its talk-about-everything-but-music periods.
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June-25th-2006, 09:09 AM
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Registered Eater
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Listened to this last night.............

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June-25th-2006, 09:22 AM
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poor folk's child
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June-25th-2006, 10:10 AM
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Sure, I´m listening to music all the time.
Right now I´m listening to "Tonight´s The Night" by Neil Young. Great album! I recently saw an interview with him on TV and he said it was his own favorite Neil Young album.
Before that I listened to some Al Green and Ann Peebles albums.
Very good!!
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June-25th-2006, 10:11 AM
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holier than thou
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Went to Susan Tedeschi on Friday night. She had a completely different band than the last two times I've seen her.
The opening act was a guy named James Hunter, whose band features a stand up bass in the rhythm section, and a tenor and baritone sax combo. They were really tight, playing sort of a Sam Cooke meets the Stray Cats type of vibe. Etta James was supposed to be the opener, but she took the night off, as she had to do a show in Boston last night. Too bad, never seen her live.
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June-25th-2006, 10:12 AM
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The Bluegrass
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Just trying to drum up some music talk.
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June-25th-2006, 10:35 AM
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Game On
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The Review Forum is pretty much a wasteland other than periodic admonitions from people like shrugs that we should post more there. I pretty much post on the Live Performance Forum of anything worthwhile I see in this godforsaken sub-backwater of improv. There was a nice flurry of posts on the Vision thread, as there is every year. We could probably use an inflow of new blood. Other Steve hasn't been posting so much and he always gets out to concerts. When the Parker/Gillespie and Monk/Coltrane discs make most reviewers' top 10 lists, that's partially a reflection of a lack of current performers' releases that are of a very high quality or reflect a musical advancement.
Other than that, it's all Reynold's fault.
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June-25th-2006, 10:36 AM
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Registered Eater
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Etta James is great live........
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June-25th-2006, 11:00 AM
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poor folk's child
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Originally Posted by Captain Hate
The Review Forum is pretty much a wasteland other than periodic admonitions from people like shrugs that we should post more there. I pretty much post on the Live Performance Forum of anything worthwhile I see in this godforsaken sub-backwater of improv. There was a nice flurry of posts on the Vision thread, as there is every year. We could probably use an inflow of new blood. Other Steve hasn't been posting so much and he always gets out to concerts. When the Parker/Gillespie and Monk/Coltrane discs make most reviewers' top 10 lists, that's partially a reflection of a lack of current performers' releases that are of a very high quality or reflect a musical advancement.
Other than that, it's all Reynold's fault.
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Trying to avoid a discussion of how things compare to the past, you can easily draw the opposite conclusion. There is so much stuff out there that hardly two people listen to the same things.
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June-25th-2006, 11:09 AM
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Kills all threads!
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Originally Posted by Uli
Trying to avoid a discussion of how things compare to the past, you can easily draw the opposite conclusion. There is so much stuff out there that hardly two people listen to the same things.
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I think that's exactly right.
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June-25th-2006, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Hate
Other Steve hasn't been posting so much and he always gets out to concerts.
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Steve has left here again, he posts on his blog, although mostly classical:
http://nightafternight.blogs.com/
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June-25th-2006, 11:31 AM
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We are the only reality
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Originally Posted by jesus marion joseph
Went to Susan Tedeschi on Friday night. She had a completely different band than the last two times I've seen her.
The opening act was a guy named James Hunter, whose band features a stand up bass in the rhythm section, and a tenor and baritone sax combo. They were really tight, playing sort of a Sam Cooke meets the Stray Cats type of vibe. Etta James was supposed to be the opener, but she took the night off, as she had to do a show in Boston last night. Too bad, never seen her live.
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I don't feel quite so bad now, JMJ, that I missed a chance to see Etta James live in Sacramento. And, believe me, I felt bad. But, of all my Etta James albums, my favourite is Mystery Lady on which she puts her own stamp onto songs I had associated only with Billie. She doesn't attempt to mimic Billie Holiday's style. Have you heard that collection?
Speaking of Billie Holiday, I'm listening to her "at the Philharmonic" collection right now.
I've been listening to ton of Pee Wee Russell, Muggsy Spanier and Jack Teagarden, with a smidgeon of Jimmy Smith and some Rafael Mendez.
Last edited by patricia; June-25th-2006 at 11:32 AM.
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June-25th-2006, 12:03 PM
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Retired Jazz DJ
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Cantiello
Etta James is great live........
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I saw her last year at the Fountain Blues Festival in San Jose.
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June-25th-2006, 12:05 PM
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Retired Jazz DJ
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I do listen to music when I am in my car, usually on the radio since I do volunteer work in radio land and I want an idea on what is being played. I either listen to KSJS (the station that I volunteer at), KCSM, or KKUP.
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June-25th-2006, 12:38 PM
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Be Afraid
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I've been thinking about posting more about music, as I've been listening to a lot of stuff recently, but I've found that for the most part, attempts to talk about music usually end up with everybody yawning and saying, "We've covered this before."
What's the point?
I guess the other problem is that I don't listen to any new jazz anymore. Lately I've also started to feel that most free jazz is just a thick, hopeless, muddle. So my listening is either to hard bop and post bop from roughly 1955 to 1965, and, of course, taomud.
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June-25th-2006, 12:59 PM
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Unfocused User
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Struggling with a new job, a new iPod, and the ongoing embargo against new purchases.
The time needed to get the iPod organized in a coherent fashion has been staggering, but after a week, I've got most of the tweaks made, mostly to files back from the post-Napster days on Kazaa (what album was "Disco Inferno" on, anyway? can I find an image?) but there's still some housekeeping to be done...
The job (four months in, now) severely cut back into my listening time; I try to sneak some music in but I'm in a semi-managerial role, so I've got people constantly at my side with one question or another.
The embargo still has me a little steamed. Mrs. Tricky's made a miniscule step and agreed to net-zero, so if I unload a boatload of books or CDs (both of which I have small piles ready to dispatch) I can redirect the proceeds directly to DMG or Cadence. That, and I'm going to start slipping twenties in between the couch cushions...
So I'm just treading water here. Some time to run down to Twisted Village would be nice, but I'm having trouble getting to the grocery store with any regularity. Guess which one comes first...
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June-25th-2006, 01:21 PM
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www.steveminkin.com
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As much as ever, and since I had a three long drives to gigs in the last 8 days (Newark, Roseville, and Gualala), probably a little more than usual.
Tell you want I'm listening to a lot: a Chet Atkins' piece called "Yes Ma'am". Two weeks ago I called a 90th birthday party for one of my regular club dancers. Amazingly, he was only the 5th oldest dancer there! They had a folk dance leader opening for me . She did a neat little circle dance called The Oklahoma Mixer, kind of simplified "Put Your Little Foot", also done in Varsouvienne position. The music was an old scratchy 78, not especially noteworthy, so I figured I take the dance and find some better music that worked. Of the few dozen pieces I tried, the two that timed out best were Hank's "Jambalaya" and Atkins' "Yes Ma'am". Since "Yes Ma'am" seemed the fresher choice and I'd have to retitle the dance if used Jambalaya (The Oklahoma-Louisiana Mixer?), I went with the Chet. It's working out great, fine addition to the repertoire!
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June-25th-2006, 01:44 PM
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Registered User
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I'm listening to an awful lot of new stuff since I started downloading from emusic. I'm getting a chance to check out a lot of things that I wouldn't have bothered taking a chance on if I had to order a CD and wait for it. This way the risk is very low on stuff that I'm not sure of. I'm not very good at writing about music, so I just tend to post a list on waylt every now and then.
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June-25th-2006, 02:00 PM
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Game On
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Originally Posted by Uli
Trying to avoid a discussion of how things compare to the past, you can easily draw the opposite conclusion. There is so much stuff out there that hardly two people listen to the same things.
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I'm not sure what point you're making in the first sentence, and I'm not saying that to be a wise guy. I certainly agree with the second sentence having started many threads that go dead instantly.
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June-25th-2006, 02:04 PM
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So, um, Anyone Listening To Music Anymore?
You betcha! More than ever. Since i began downloading from Dime (which is free), it's almost impossible to keep up. There's so much great live music (well recorded) available there. But be prepared for another addiction.
With regard to talking about music, where the hell is our resident Preacher?
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June-25th-2006, 02:07 PM
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I've been listening to my first Morton Feldman purchase (Rothko Chapel + Why Patterns?). Then this evening while cooking I put on the Brandenbourg Concertos, astonishing even myself.
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June-25th-2006, 02:12 PM
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poor folk's child
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Originally Posted by Captain Hate
I'm not sure what point you're making in the first sentence, and I'm not saying that to be a wise guy. I certainly agree with the second sentence having started many threads that go dead instantly.
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I just sed that because you seemed to have drawn a conclusion from the fact that the Diz/Bird and Monk/Trane issues made the critics top 10 lists there is not enough new stuff worth talking about. And from my perspective another old/new discussion is the least that I would be interested in.
btw I like reading a review of yours from a show in your back of the woods. I don't know however what to discuss about it. Maybe if I had seen the same group here'd be something.
and btw I listen to a lot of music lately. some of it i posted on the respective waylts.
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June-25th-2006, 02:14 PM
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Unfocused User
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Addiction? Who said addiction?
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June-25th-2006, 03:51 PM
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Game On
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Originally Posted by Uli
I just sed that because you seemed to have drawn a conclusion from the fact that the Diz/Bird and Monk/Trane issues made the critics top 10 lists there is not enough new stuff worth talking about. And from my perspective another old/new discussion is the least that I would be interested in.
btw I like reading a review of yours from a show in your back of the woods. I don't know however what to discuss about it. Maybe if I had seen the same group here'd be something.
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Points taken, thanks.
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June-25th-2006, 04:36 PM
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I have not been listening to much, jazz, I'll tell ya that. Although last night I put on "Earth Jones" with Elveen, Dave Liebman, Terumasa Hino, Kenny Kirkland, George Mraz. It sounded just great, and touched some area of my brain that has not been touched in a long time.
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June-25th-2006, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Dave
I have not been listening to much, jazz, I'll tell ya that. Although last night I put on "Earth Jones" with Elveen, Dave Liebman, Terumasa Hino, Kenny Kirkland, George Mraz. It sounded just great, and touched some area of my brain that has not been touched in a long time.
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Three Card Molly!
That's the real thing.
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June-25th-2006, 05:51 PM
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skirting the issue
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Originally Posted by Gary Sisco
The board seems to be in one of its talk-about-everything-but-music periods.
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I do what I can.
I think the WAYLTs should be stopped, maybe there'd be more discussion. I find raw lists of CDs with no comments extremely boring and pointless and stopped reading those threads long ago.
I don't mind discussing old CDs.
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June-25th-2006, 06:02 PM
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Be Afraid
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Inspired by Ashley Kahn's new book on Impulse!, I've been listening to a lot of early Impulse! records, from 1961-1964, or thereabouts. Lately I've been listening to The Blues and the Abstract Truth, The Great Kai & JJ, and Out of the Afternoon. All very good, all highly recommended.
After listening to the new connoisseur Pax, I'm also beginning to think that Blue Note seriously over-recorded Andrew Hill in the mid-1960s. His albums are more interesting for who he gets to play on them, and less interesting for his own contributions.
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June-25th-2006, 06:18 PM
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skirting the issue
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Originally Posted by Face of the Bass
After listening to the new connoisseur Pax, I'm also beginning to think that Blue Note seriously over-recorded Andrew Hill in the mid-1960s.
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I think it's the other way around: what was released was usually the best of the bunch. "Pax" is a Connoisseur for good reason. However, there are a number of good Connoisseurs: "Andrew!!!" is as essential as "Black Fire" and "Point of Departure", "Dance With Death" is crisp and the best of his more straight-ahead albums ("Love Nocturne," of which there is an atrocious version on "Grassroots," is awesome) and "Passing Ships" is good too, some of the tunes remind me of Mulatu Astatke.
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His albums are more interesting for who he gets to play on them, and less interesting for his own contributions.
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Actually, I find that the more Hill's presence is felt, the better the music is. On "Point of Departure," my favourite Dolphy moment is, iirc, on "Spectrum," when he is corralled into a very specific role. "Andrew!!!" is a marvel of group balance (John Gilmore is kind of similar to Henderson (compare their tones on the first track of "Black Fire" and the second of "Andrew!!!"), but his less fancy playing has more oomph to it). And Hill totally dominates "Time Lines," which is as good as any of his other Blue Notes. Not just in his actual playing: everyone is subservient to his music. "Dusk" is similar in that respect, but "Time Lines" is more powerful.
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June-25th-2006, 06:29 PM
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I've been listening to a lot of Ray Charles, in preparation for a tribute concert I'm doing down here in Mexico next month. I just wanted something that might hook a large number of gringos *and* Mexicans, but now that I'm arranging and rehearsing the show, I'm really loving some of the stuff more than ever. In my one totally self-indulgent moment of the evening, Glenda and I are going to do the ray/Betty Carter version of Two to Tango. We performed it today at a Unitarian meeting.
Man, Betty Carter--what a sweet voice.
Beyond that, I keep coming back to bassist Viktor Krauss' album Far From Nowhere. I hated it at first--all vibe and no melody--and now I regard it as one of the best I own. Frisell, Jerry Douglas, Steve Jordan. The soundtrack for many of our happiest evenings lately.
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