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hornplayer · November-9th-2006, 01:31 PM

and it wouldn't be Hillary!

If the Democrats proceed with their plans for impeachment of Dubbya and The Evil One, that would pass the torch to Nancy Pelosi!

hmmmmmmmm

GoodSpeak · November-9th-2006, 01:36 PM

Nah.

Demon-rats are supposed to play nice.

It's the law.

patricia · November-9th-2006, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by hornplayer

and it wouldn't be Hillary!

If the Democrats proceed with their plans for impeachment of Dubbya and The Evil One, that would pass the torch to Nancy Pelosi!

hmmmmmmmm

Exactly what I was thinking, hp.
Wouldn't that be a slap in the face to all those who have been so focussed on blocking Ms. Clinton, that they didn't consider other possibilities?
Clinton could end up to have been the canary in the coalmine.

Scott Dolan · November-9th-2006, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hornplayer

and it wouldn't be Hillary!

If the Democrats proceed with their plans for impeachment of Dubbya and The Evil One, that would pass the torch to Nancy Pelosi!

hmmmmmmmm

What?!

Care to share these plans?

Rahm Emanuel, Howard Dean, and Nancy Pelosi are all on record as saying they were NOT going to look at impeachment.

Who are your sources, June?

Coda · November-9th-2006, 02:01 PM

HP - do you feel that it's in the countries best interest to spend the next two years focused on impeachment? When Clinton was going through the process he didn't pay attention to Al-Queda despite several attacks against our facilities. I'm fearful that if we let up on this WOT and have congress spend their time building a case, holding meetings, etc that we will have played right into the terrorists hands.

Is this the liberal strategy? If so, why wasn't it mentioned during the election process. After all, wouldn't it be fair to the public to let us know prior to the elections?

Personally, I don't think Pelosi is dumb enough to let this happen. The question is can she exert enough control over the other liberal members of congress to keep the focus on what's important to this country.

lynn · November-9th-2006, 02:09 PM

When was the last time Republicans utterd an honest statement during an election?

If they could expidite Bush's impeachment, I'd be all for it but I listened to an interview she gave to NPR and she said there just wasn't enough time to process the impeachment over the next 2 years otherwise I think that might be an option.

I'd be all for turning them over to the International Courts after they are out of office though. Rumsfeld with them. A nice tidy little package of war mongers.

lynn · November-9th-2006, 02:13 PM

I also just love hearing the right but wrong side telling the Dems how they need to focus on what's important for the country. If they can't clean their own mess up they should just shut the "****" up.

And as far as that ol' olive branch is concerned...fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on you too.

I don't expect to see a Nancy "Mr. Nice Guy" Pelosi stepping up to the plate.

Scott Dolan · November-9th-2006, 02:14 PM

I don't think Pelosi is dumb enough to bother with impeachment. I think she will do the things necessary to polish the image of the Democratic party for the next cycle of elections.

But I do like the double standard, lynn. The Republicans lied, so why can't we? Yeah, that's nice.

Scott Dolan · November-9th-2006, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lynn

I also just love hearing the right but wrong side telling the Dems how they need to focus on what's important for the country. If they can't clean their own mess up they should just shut the "****" up.

And as far as that ol' olive branch is concerned...fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on you too.

I love it!

Let's impeach Bush for all the things he's done to ruin the country. But let's create and even bigger divide and embarrass ourselves even further by doing so.

Luckily, most Democrats think a little deeper than this and aren't out for petty retribution. They are actually serious about changing things for the better.

patricia · November-9th-2006, 02:23 PM

Could somebody tell me with what crimes the Bush Administration would be charged, considering that blanket immunity for all possible war crimes, effective retroactively was instituted?
Isn't that the same as a "get out of jail free" card??
Did that bill not pass?

Scott Dolan · November-9th-2006, 02:36 PM

Fuck what they'll charge them with. What will they be able to prove?

Surfer · November-9th-2006, 02:50 PM

If there's one thing American politics needs more of, its Italian mothers who kick ass.

Surfer · November-9th-2006, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Dolan

Fuck what they'll charge them with. What will they be able to prove?

Douchebaggery.

It's in the Constitution, I looked.

Scott Dolan · November-9th-2006, 02:59 PM

Oh my.

That could prove troublesome.

Sandi22 · November-9th-2006, 03:01 PM

So it's only Nixon and Clinton (with Clinton, I was against it, it wasn't needed, it was a ploy to stall and hinder his administration) who got what was coming to them, everyone else takes a slide?

I can see not wanting to put the country through the mess of an impeachment hearing. I can see where it would be a deterrent to the government functioning as it needs to, however, having said this, there must be a way to send a message to all prospective Constitution violaters that they will pay. There will be consequences, that a free ride to destroy the country isn't going to happen. How would one go about that?

rollhead · November-9th-2006, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Dolan

I love it!

Let's impeach Bush for all the things he's done to ruin the country. But let's create and even bigger divide and embarrass ourselves even further by doing so.

Luckily, most Democrats think a little deeper than this and aren't out for petty retribution. They are actually serious about changing things for the better.

I just hope that Pelosi will hit a few of them over the head with her Prada handbag.

Scott Dolan · November-9th-2006, 03:07 PM

Hahahaha...............

I'd pay top fucking dollar to see that!!

Surfer · November-9th-2006, 03:11 PM

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I just hope that Pelosi will hit a few of them over the head with her Prada handbag.

C'mon dude, Italians like the bling.

Slurpy · November-9th-2006, 03:20 PM

LOL, Surfer!

lynn · November-9th-2006, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Dolan

I love it!

Let's impeach Bush for all the things he's done to ruin the country. But let's create and even bigger divide and embarrass ourselves even further by doing so.

Luckily, most Democrats think a little deeper than this and aren't out for petty retribution. They are actually serious about changing things for the better.

Your responses to my comments are typical. I just post what many people are thinking right now.

Since I haven't removed you from my blocked list I'm not really to sure how high your pulpit has risen but I assure you there is noone in this space that wants to see improvement in this government any more than I even if we strongly disagree with what the problems are or what the solutions should be.

But if you think the Republicans are looking for a reconscilliation to repair the country as their main focus (as opposed to seeing how they can screw the Democrats at every turn) you are not paying attention to their track record on brotherly love, brother.

Scott Dolan · November-9th-2006, 03:33 PM

If you haven't removed me from your "blocked" list, how come you are always responding to me?

Sandi22 · November-9th-2006, 03:37 PM

I'm still waiting to see what the Neo Con back up plan is. They must have one, or did they think they were a shoo in?

Two more years of manipulating the system, but with the purse strings being tightened, what will they be able to do? Bomb Korea? Overthrow Chavez? The suspense is palpable.

patricia · November-9th-2006, 04:15 PM

The Neo-Cons didn't have an exit plan for Iraq.
They assumed that the invasion of Iraq would be a party, with flowers hurled at the invaders and easy access to the oil.
Long-term plans are not in their vocabulary.
They like the shock and awe of an invasion, but the follow-up is not something they like to think about, or acknowledge, much less plan.
On to the next disastrous experiment.............

Dr Dave · November-9th-2006, 04:17 PM

Nancy Pelosi is a very smart politician (she has to be--she's a lousy public speaker). But she ain't gonna be President. There isn't gonna be any impeachment. Watch Cheney move into ultra-low profile mode. As far as he's concerned, he's earned a big post-Washington payday from Halliburton, and I'm sure everything he does from here on out will have the goal of making sure he gets it, regardless of the diminishment of his power. Good for him. Let him have his ill-gotten gains; he's all done, and he's got a bad ticker, to boot.

patricia · November-9th-2006, 04:22 PM

Sometimes evil-doers get their thumps while they are still around to feel them.
It would be a pity if Cheney checks out and only history punishes him.

Justice is owed to you, after Ken Lay dodged the bullet by dyin'.

Sandi22 · November-9th-2006, 04:26 PM

No wonder his gay daughter is on board with him. Regardless of how this administration has played up the gay threat to humanity, she was there to back him, and I'd have to imagine she will be in on his will, his revocable trust or what ever means he has to give out his largess, which has been earned on our backs, on our troops backs. His daughter will reap the benefits, she will be one rich gal. She overlooked a lot to beat his drum, but look at the pay scale.

Coda · November-9th-2006, 04:26 PM

I think you can read a lot into the resignation of Rumsfeld. Clearly if Bush wanted to upset the apple cart he would have forced the resignation back in August/Sept as it would have helped the republicans get re-elected.

I honestly don't think he cares to much about which party was elected. He recognizes that the war isn't going according to plan and that the public has called for a change. I highly suspect that he is not going to veto anything unless he feels that it would put the troops in harms way. I don't think you give the guy much credit - he's not stupid despite everyone saying he is. He wants us to win and he seems just as willing to do this now as ever. Remember, he didn't turn against the democrats, they swore him off and used very juvenile language in doing so.

Yes, the next two years all of the major decisions will be fully backed and supported by the house and senate. If the democrats are able to change world opinion while keeping terrorists out of the US, then they'll be a shoe-in come the '08 elections. If things don't turn around or the U.S. is attacked again then the country will turn on the democrats.

Just remember, the public didn't vote in any of the democrats, they voted out GWBs Iraq strategy. The democrats would be foolish to believe that their election was due to their brilliant military knowledge. It's one thing to Monday morning quarterback, it's very different to have to throw the ball.

tippy · November-9th-2006, 04:27 PM

ahem...did you guys forget Oprah?

Scott Dolan · November-9th-2006, 04:29 PM

I've tried to.

Coda · November-9th-2006, 04:33 PM

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No wonder his gay daughter is on board with him. Regardless of how this administration has played up the gay threat to humanity, she was there to back him, and I'd have to imagine she will be in on his will, his revocable trust or what ever means he has to give out his largess, which has been earned on our backs, on our troops backs. His daughter will reap the benefits, she will be one rich gal. She overlooked a lot to beat his drum, but look at the pay scale.

This is just plain ignorant. Would you expect your son/daughter to turn her back on you? And get over Haliburton, that too shows how out of touch with reality you are. Show me any evidence anywhere that Cheney has received payoffs from any business since taking office.