CIA "Family Jewels"

Chaz Longue · June-26th-2007, 07:45 PM

And remember, neighbors: "Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you!"

Sandi22 · June-26th-2007, 08:19 PM

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This is the official CIA site, my mistake.
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http://www.foia.cia.gov

I think this is the link to it, V the CIA Family Jewels.

Maybe this is it, the first one is the official CIA website.

There's several links, the one I had seen earlier had come in an online newsletter, but this is one coming down on the CIA. I can't find the newsletter, but I don't remember deleting it. Here's a link:

http://www.disinfo.com/site/displayarticle19817.html

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The CIA's "Family Jewels"
posted by ralph
on Jun 23, 2007 - 04:37 AM

The Central Intelligence Agency violated its charter for 25 years until revelations of illegal wiretapping, domestic surveillance, assassination plots, and human experimentation led to official investigations and reforms in the 1970s, according to declassified documents posted on the Web by the National Security Archive at George Washington University.

CIA director Gen. Michael Hayden announced that the Agency is declassifying the full 693-page file amassed on CIA's illegal activities by order of then-CIA director James Schlesinger in 1973 — the so-called "family jewels." Only a few dozen heavily-censored pages of this file have previously been declassified, although multiple Freedom of Information Act requests have been filed over the years for the documents. Gen. Hayden called the release "a glimpse of a very different time and a very different Agency." (National Security Archive at George Washington University)

Gary Sisco · June-27th-2007, 03:35 PM

Well, as is usual, all of the "disclosures" have been public knowledge all along.

There was an idiot factor in my service time, in that I had to have a clearance to work at my job. They had a long list of "subversive" organizations you had to be able to say you hadn't belonged to. SDS wasn't on the list. None of the New Left groups or organizations of the time were. It must've been the same list they started using in McCarthyite times and never updated. It was almost all local union chapters and a few parties. So, I got the clearance, despite my New Left history. Which is fair. I didn't belong to anything illegal and I've never broken anything to do with my clearance, though the gear would be long obsolete today. The concept isn't, however, so I've always kept my mouth shut.

Al in NYC · June-27th-2007, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Sisco

Well, as is usual, all of the "disclosures" have been public knowledge all along.

There was an idiot factor in my service time, in that I had to have a clearance to work at my job. They had a long list of "subversive" organizations you had to be able to say you hadn't belonged to. SDS wasn't on the list. None of the New Left groups or organizations of the time were. It must've been the same list they started using in McCarthyite times and never updated. It was almost all local union chapters and a few parties. So, I got the clearance, despite my New Left history. Which is fair. I didn't belong to anything illegal and I've never broken anything to do with my clearance, though the gear would be long obsolete today. The concept isn't, however, so I've always kept my mouth shut.

My father lost his clearance in the Army, and therefore his job, during the Korean War due to his membership in 2 "subversive" organizations: The United Automobile Workers and the NAACP.

Sandi22 · June-27th-2007, 04:48 PM

Absolutely. The surfing culture even knew of Oliver Norths airports in Central America, well before the press ever picked up on it.

My sister saw the photo's of GHW Bush taken during a reception and party for him on the mother ship of the fishing fleet, which according to several rumors, was responsible for the influx of drugs into the "Drugs for Arms". "Arms for Hostages" fiasco, etc. The same ones which flooded our black neighborhoods, which the black community themselves complained bitterly about All to no avail. No one would believe them, all of us thinking no government of ours would be complicit in dealing drugs, complicit in ruining our neighorhoods and destroying our youth. Whole generations were lost due to their thuggery.

This information in the CIA disclosures been public knowledge forever, or so it seems. So many articles and reports in newpapers and magazines, as well as on television have told us about what those activities by the CIA, by our government, even as much of it was happening. But then there are lots of people out there who hadn't even been born when this was all public knowledge, so perhaps this is a good thing. They need to see where a government, and CIA, out of control can lead us. The things that happened over all of this were terrible, and they need to learn of it just as we have. Maybe then they'll be as concerned over these men in office as we are, and you know, it's some of the same men from that time who are in seats of power today, and they are up to their same old dirty tricks, however, now they know the ropes a whole lot better; they are much more dangerous and deadly.

Read up people and know that Dick Cheney was front and center for much of it, and here he is today, the master manipulator, and he's learned from the Nixon tape scandal to hide all of his recordings, his papers, and the thousands of email records. What a piece of work!

GoodSpeak · June-27th-2007, 09:14 PM

Well, it is cold comfort indeed to know that we Vietnam War protesters were, in fact, being monitored by the CIA.

Still waiting for the FBI disclosures....

Gary Sisco · June-28th-2007, 07:52 AM

The FBI disclosures you're waiting for, Goodie, were released many years ago.

Everyone knew the CIA was monitoring the antiwar movement.

Gary Sisco · June-28th-2007, 07:54 AM

Al -- Pretty funny but only in hindsight. I hope having lost his job means that he managed to miss combat in Korea.

Al in NYC · June-28th-2007, 12:36 PM

Quite the contrary. It got him resassigned from his relatively cushy back of the line tech work to a group of international (mostly South Korean - ROK) troops on - and occasionally beyond - the front lines.

Gary Sisco · June-28th-2007, 12:42 PM

Ain't that the way it always goes?

Al in NYC · June-28th-2007, 01:09 PM

Yeah, so having survived that experience he pretty much expected that he was under some form surveillance for the rest of his life. And so far, he's been right. You know, fighting for people's rights being so dangerously anti-American and all (unless, of course, they're "economic rights," of the type some folks here are always going on about).

Gary Sisco · June-28th-2007, 01:20 PM

What we always said in the radical movement is that the FBI's forced disclosures during the early 80s showed one thing, conclusively: We weren't paranoid enough. They were keeping track of everybody, even the old church ladies' groups.

A woman in Burlington, who'd been a red diaper brat and New Leftist, asked for her files under the Freedom Of Information Act and accidentally triggered a Niagra Falls of COINTELPRO documents -- enough so that she had to start an archive. I worked some on systematizing it so it could be used for research.

One other thing we knew but had confirmed again, as a result of that tsunami: In every case, the most militant, anti-theory, get-out-in-the-streets, and blow-some-shit-up types turned out to have been lunatic agents provocateur, either FBI or in the FBI's employ. It was very nearly 100% the case.

rollhead · June-28th-2007, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Sisco

What we always said in the radical movement ...

Got news for you, radicals don't just gas off on an internet bulletin board.

jesus marion joseph · June-28th-2007, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rollhead

Got news for you, radicals don't just gas off on an internet bulletin board.

How the hell would you know?

Gary Sisco · June-29th-2007, 07:47 AM

Yes, please enlighten us with your long movement history.

I guess it hasn't occurred to Rollhead that there are websites and bbs's dedicated to what's left of the radical movement. Duh? And why wouldn't there be?

Tried googling much, Rollhead? (How are we supposed to take a man named "Rollhead" seriously, I ask myself....)

Google "socialist" and see what happens. I'll leave you to peruse the more than 25 million hits that come up. Try "anarchist" and so forth.

Double duh.