Who is/are your favorite Sami artist(s)?

Sand · January-27th-2008, 05:40 PM

Well?

Mike Schwartz · January-27th-2008, 06:36 PM

Sami?

Pete C · January-27th-2008, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Schwartz

Sami?

Formerly known as Lapps or Laplanders--Sami is the ethnic group's actual traditional name.

Is Joni Mitchell really Sami (or part Sami)?

Mike Schwartz · January-27th-2008, 07:27 PM

Thank you Mr. C

Sand · January-27th-2008, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete C

Formerly known as Lapps or Laplanders--Sami is the ethnic group's actual traditional name.

Is Joni Mitchell really Sami (or part Sami)?

In a recent interview in a Norwegian daily she talked about this (possibly elsewhere, too)

Joni says that her grand parents emigrated from Norway, but that her father never talked about his background.
- Where I come from, you'll never admit that you have Indian blood and my father never said anything.
But on one occation, when Joni met her father's cousin at the store she asked her about this:
- Do we have sami blood in our veins, I asked.
- Oh yeah, we're Sami people, she said.
(Sami people - indigenous to Nothern parts of Norway, Sweden, Finland and Russia.)

Surfer · January-27th-2008, 07:42 PM

I have a Mari Boine CD (Goaskinviellja) so I voted for her.

steve(thelil) · January-27th-2008, 10:24 PM

Davis Junior.

And my wife is Norwegian.

Sand · January-28th-2008, 04:56 AM

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Davis Junior.

And my wife is Norwegian.

Any nationality would qualify her as long as she is a Sami artist.

Sand · January-28th-2008, 05:02 PM

I voted for all 4 artists. Well, I chose them!

There other artists that I forgot about yesterday and who I like as well and even better than those I mentioned:

Torgeir Vassli w/Arve Henriksen and Anders Jormin and others - Saivu

Transjoik

And what about Joni?

She's Sami and she is proud

And Mari Boine was influenced by the young Joni Mitchell and we all know that Mari Boine defines what is regarded as Sami these days

Her father may have sung joiks secretly to her when she was a baby.

Monte Smith · January-28th-2008, 05:11 PM

I heard a Norwegian joke in Seattle. There are a lot of those people up there. By "those people" I don't mean anything negative. I'm not prejudiced against whites, I assure you. OK, I've already bungled this post. And also it's a bad joke. The joke was told by a Norwegian to demonstrate how dumb his own people were. He said, "When I was a kid growing up here, there were fights between the Norwegians and the Swedes. It got pretty ugly. We Norwegians used to throw fire crackers at the Swedes. The Swedes would pick them up, light them, and throw them back." Haha. Fucking Norwegians. I guess.

Sand · January-28th-2008, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Monte Smith

I heard a Norwegian joke in Seattle. There are a lot of those people up there. By "those people" I don't mean anything negative. I'm not prejudiced against whites, I assure you. OK, I've already bungled this post. And also it's a bad joke. The joke was told by a Norwegian to demonstrate how dumb his own people were. He said, "When I was a kid growing up here, there were fights between the Norwegians and the Swedes. It got pretty ugly. We Norwegians used to throw fire crackers at the Swedes. The Swedes would pick them up, light them, and throw them back." Haha. Fucking Norwegians. I guess.

Wrong thread. We're talking about Sami identity here.

Monte Smith · January-28th-2008, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sand

Wrong thread. We're talking about Sami identity here.

Correct! And thus I leave this thread to its obscurity.

Sand · January-28th-2008, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Monte Smith

Correct! And thus I leave this thread to its obscurity.

Just to make sure you're not getting the last word here

In the meantime I'll offer a grook by Piet Hein:

THE ETERNAL TWINS

Taking fun
as simply fun
and earnestness
in earnest
shows how thoroughly
thou none
of the two
discernest.

Cornelis · January-29th-2008, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sand

- Where I come from, you'll never admit that you have Indian blood and my father never said anything.

Where does the Indian part come from??? I'm confused.

I know Ricky Lee Jones is partly Romanichal (Gypsy), (kinda Indian...)

anyway
Cor

lazarus · January-29th-2008, 12:46 PM

I voted for Joni and Mari because I know their music and own recordings by both. Of course I´m gonna check out the other two.

Sand · January-29th-2008, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cornelis

Where does the Indian part come from??? I'm confused.

I know Ricky Lee Jones is partly Romanichal (Gypsy), (kinda Indian...)

anyway
Cor

She's talking about the social role of the Indians where she grew up. They would get the same stigma as Indians and Eskimoes, if they identified themselves as Sami people.

Cornelis · January-29th-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sand

She's talking about the social role of the Indians where she grew up. They would get the same stigma as Indians and Eskimoes, if they identified themselves as Sami people.

mmm, the Sami are pretty well off compared to the Romani, who had a history of 500 years of slavory (mostly in east europe, and the slave owners got compensation not the slaves..... hence the still abominable situation of the Sinti and Roma in Europe).

anyway, I know Mats Gustafsson is very involved with the Sami as well. Him not being one but knowing them and being involved with etc...

Cor

rollhead · January-29th-2008, 04:51 PM

I don't know who my favorite Sami artist(s) are, but I am ready for a little cultural exchange.

Sand · January-29th-2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rollhead

I don't know who my favorite Sami artist(s) are, but I am ready for a little cultural exchange.

Like joking and joiking?

groover · January-29th-2008, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sand

Wrong thread. We're talking about Sami identity here.

If it's all the sami to you, Sand, Monte was just trying to share a little joik.

I'll go with Joni, she's the only one I've heard.

Sand · January-29th-2008, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by groover

If it's all the sami to you, Sand, Monte was just trying to share a little joik.
.

That's ok, but if he had started joiking that would have been an insult to the whole Sami nation, Joni included.

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I'll go with Joni, she's the only one I've heard

She could do with some support.

Monte Smith · January-29th-2008, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sand

That's ok, but if he had started joiking that would have been an insult to the whole Sami nation, Joni included.

Yoik yoik yoik!

Sand · January-29th-2008, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Monte Smith

Yoik yoik yoik!

I never knew you would yoik this well and I particularly like the silent aspects of this tone poem. Indeed, people have hidden talents and strengths.

John L · January-30th-2008, 04:41 AM

You have to admire any people who live through a long ice cold winter in complete darkness only to be eaten alive in the summer by swarms of the largest and most bloodthirsty mosquitos you can imagine.

I once traveled to Lapland in the summer with a tube tent. I was planning to spend 4 days. I came back the next day with my eyes swollen shut.

picsou · January-31st-2008, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by John L

You have to admire any people who live through a long ice cold winter in complete darkness only to be eaten alive in the summer by swarms of the largest and most bloodthirsty mosquitos you can imagine.

I once traveled to Lapland in the summer with a tube tent. I was planning to spend 4 days. I came back the next day with my eyes swollen shut.

You should definitely try that again, mid June for ex. The closest to Nirvana I have ever been!

Sand · January-31st-2008, 02:56 PM

John did an intense shamanistic dance with mosquitos.

Picsou danced the night away while hiking at daytime?

Albert Ayler toured with a lousy dance band.

And I turned down an offer to go there during military service.

Everybody has been there, but me.

Sand · January-31st-2008, 07:51 PM

Back to music. Adjagas draws you in. Simple in one way and deep in another way. I found a vidio that is downloadable: Mun Ja Mun

picsou · February-1st-2008, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sand

Everybody has been there, but me.

How about a JC meet-up "up there" to celebrate midsommar?

Sand · February-3rd-2008, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by picsou

How about a JC meet-up "up there" to celebrate midsommar?

Not a lot of response yet, I think it has to sink in a little

How far is it from Alta to Kebnekaise; from Kebnekaise to Karasjok; from Karasjok to Kautokeino?

Sand · March-21st-2008, 04:40 PM

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Monte Smith: from Food as Medicine Thread:

No wonder your "favorite Sami artist thread."

God bless you.

God damn, how could you eat Rudolph?

Our reindeer meat was not from Sami reindeer. Of course, there may have been an unconcious affinity because of my eating habits earlier on. I also read great books about Canadian Indians and Alaskian Nunimat Eskimoes hunting down reindeer - and eating them!

Then, again, it may just have been major "world" artists like Mari Boine and others following in her footsteps that inspired it. Yeah, of course, this time it was Joni.