Bending over backwards for the GOP Right

[GoodSpeak]

OK.


Can somebody explain this to me?


Why is it whenever any discussion in the News turns to McCain's potential running mate, the end comment always is: The conservatives won't like him?

I mean, who fucking cares if they like the guy or not...who else they gonna vote for? Ralph Nader?

[Jeffrey Wozniak]

Glad to see Nader in the race again

[Ron Thorne]

Nader Enters US Presidential Race
By Paula Wolfson Washington 24 February 2008

Ralph Nader (File)

Consumer advocate Ralph Nader says he is launching a campaign for president of the United States. VOA's Paula Wolfson reports, Nader sites growing discontent in the country with both Republicans and Democrats.

Ralph Nader made it official during an appearance on national television.

"I have decided to run for president," said Nader.

Nader told NBC's Meet the Press that he is entering the race because neither one of the major political parties is acting in the best interest of the American people.

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What a preposterous, narcissistic ass!

Yeah, Ralph, America is actually going to elect you as our next President because there's no discontent or disagreement over your style or substance.

Full story

[GoodSpeak]

The Pat Paulsen of politics.



Somebody needs to off him.

[GoodSpeak]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey Wozniak

Glad to see Nader in the race again

Yeah, like conservatives will line-up in droves to back his sorry ass.

[Pete C]

I thought Pat Paulsen was the Pat Paulsen of politics.

[Ron Thorne]

Originally Posted by Pete C

I thought Pat Paulsen was the Pat Paulsen of politics.

I met Pat Paulsen, and he's no Pat Paulsen.

[Milstead]

Here's an interesting perspective.

Nader Enters Race

[GoodSpeak]

Originally Posted by Pete C

I thought Pat Paulsen was the Pat Paulsen of politics.

Har.

[GoodSpeak]

I see it as another disparate attempt by the republicans to try and bleed off Democrat-leaning votes and to get the idiot Greenies to vote for him again.

They bought into that John Kerry is not-a-real-decorated-Vietnam-veteran BS so why wouldn't they be dumb enough to vote Nader again?
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[Ron Thorne]

Originally Posted by GoodSpeak

I see it as another disparate attempt by the republicans to try and bleed off Democrat-leaning votes and to get the idiot Greenies to vote for him again.

Huh?

So, you think the Republicans are behind this, Goody?

[hornplayer]

What a preposterous, narcissistic ass!

Yeah, Ralph, America is actually going to elect you as our next President because there's no discontent or disagreement over your style or substance.

I couldn't agree more, Ron! I made an almost identical comment in another thread in this Forum today! In this race, he has even less chance than previously.... and this time, not even to be a spoiler.

Now if he could do something to guarantee that the election won't be subverted by the Bushies invading Iran and suspending the Constitution, as they have threatened to do.... then maybe he'd have some redeeming social value.

[Ron Thorne]

June, at least we can hope that this is this nerd's final insult to America.

[Scott Dolan]

Originally Posted by GoodSpeak

I see it as another disparate attempt by the republicans to try and bleed off Democrat-leaning votes and to get the idiot Greenies to vote for him again.

They bought into that John Kerry is not-a-real-decorated-Vietnam-veteran BS so why wouldn't they be dumb enough to vote Nader again?
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God, why do we have to go through this again?

Nadar was a non-factor in 2004. He received less than half a million votes.

[Gary Sisco]

What's disparate about it? ;-)

[patricia]

Originally Posted by Scott Dolan

God, why do we have to go through this again?

Nadar was a non-factor in 2004. He received less than half a million votes.

Do you think that Nader may get votes from Republicans and Independants who don't want another 4 - 8 years of essentially Bush policy?
Could Nader be the "none of the above" candidate for those who for some reason don't want to vote for McCain, because he's Bush with a comb-over and still can't bring themselves to vote for a woman, especially Hillary Clinton, or a black man?
Those who feel that they should vote, which I support, may think that a vote for Nader is a compromise between not voting at all and voting for Nader because not voting is admitting that it's hopeless to expect any change from the status quo.
But, I do think that Nader's "maverick attack dog for ordinary people" status has become close to irrelevant. Many potential voters don't remember his work as a consumer advocate.
I think his candicacy is even more an ego trip than it was in 2004.

[Uli]

Originally Posted by Ron Thorne

June, at least we can hope that this is this nerd's final insult to America.

I think he is even older than McCain.

[Scott Dolan]

Originally Posted by particia

Do you think that Nader may get votes from Republicans and Independants who don't want another 4 - 8 years of essentially Bush policy?

Sure he could. But not in a significant enough number to make a bit of difference.

Could Nader be the "none of the above" candidate for those who for some reason don't want to vote for McCain, because he's Bush with a comb-over and still can't bring themselves to vote for a woman, especially Hillary Clinton, or a black man?

I'm pretty sure this number would be even smaller than the group mentioned above.

[patricia]

Then this really is a new day, unfortunately for Ralph Nader.
To vote for him, now, would be insane, considering that he has no chance of attaining the Presidency.
Also, having expressed contempt for both sides' candidates, it's doubtful that he would be a positive factor to either side, no matter who prevails.
So, it begs the question, WHY??

[Gary Sisco]

Like others, not the least of whom, The Clintstones, not to mention Coulter and Limbaugh et al, he feels his moment's passing, and his irrelevance stalking him. One more for the gipper and all that.

Buchcheney, Inc., have already consigned themselves to the past. I hope the rumors of Cheney's planning to move to Bahrain are true. Someone there will do what ought to have been done, already, but wasn't.

What would be fascinating if Obama won would be what in the world would they have to talk about on Air America? talk about history. They began as an irrelevance.

[Scott Dolan]

I don't know, Gary.

Rightwing talk radio has done pretty well with Bush in the White House.

[Gary Sisco]

That's exactly the point, Scott.

Question is how they'll fare without Bush *or* Clinton, either Clinton. They've been raving on autopilot for years and years. The lameassed, "Oh, yeah? Well, Clinton ...." shit is over and done. A new script will be necessary. The broken record won't work.

And if McCain should win, like or not, their listening base isn't going to be digging them hating on a president that, whatever else can be said, is a repub. There's a rabid minority, of course, regardless, but that, too, is the point. Even if they keep on keeping on, it will be to a shrinking audience who apparently have no politics other than not being dems and more particularly Clintons.

Personalities like those often belong to a certain era. That era's coming to a close.

The 21st C, politically speaking, in the US, has began with this primary season. They're still in the 20th.

[Scott Dolan]

Yeah, but the same exact thing was said about rightwing talk radio once Clinton left office and Bush came in. That's what I was getting at.

The biggest difference being that rightwing radio has always been MUCH bigger, and always will be.

[Gary Sisco]

People said all kinds of shit about this election, too, and look. Who was out there saying the race would be between McCain and Obama? Clinton had been all but crowned. There was talk even of Jeb Bush following her. And ratta ratta.

Hell, radio itself is fading.

Unfortunately, the pundits don't get paid according to their accuracy. But every such phenomenon requires a new generation to sustain it. They're not going to get one.

The harebrained reaction to Sept 11 became their undoing.

Dead men and women walking. They just haven't fallen over, yet.

[Ron Thorne]

Originally Posted by Gary Sisco

Hell, radio itself is fading.

Talk radio isn't fading the last time I checked, Gary.

Radio as you and I knew it back in the day is ancient history, but there's no shortage of windbags with microphones and available ears in America, apparently.

[GoodSpeak]

Originally Posted by Ron Thorne

Huh?

So, you think the Republicans are behind this, Goody?

You are aware, I hope, that the republicans gave Nader big bunches of money to run four years ago, right?


Besides, why on Earth would the Demos want to take votes away fom their own party-whydoIhavetokeepsayingthis?




Gaaa....just shoot me!

[GoodSpeak]

Originally Posted by Scott Dolan

God, why do we have to go through this again?

Nadar was a non-factor in 2004. He received less than half a million votes.

Because, Scott, [heaviest of heavy sighs] those votes helped the republicans win Ohio which gave them the needed number of electoral college votes to win the election-mercifulGodinheavenmyheadisgoingtoEXPLODE!

[GoodSpeak]

Originally Posted by patricia

Do you think that Nader may get votes from Republicans and Independants who don't want another 4 - 8 years of essentially Bush policy?
Could Nader be the "none of the above" candidate for those who for some reason don't want to vote for McCain, because he's Bush with a comb-over and still can't bring themselves to vote for a woman, especially Hillary Clinton, or a black man?
Those who feel that they should vote, which I support, may think that a vote for Nader is a compromise between not voting at all and voting for Nader because not voting is admitting that it's hopeless to expect any change from the status quo.But, I do think that Nader's "maverick attack dog for ordinary people" status has become close to irrelevant. Many potential voters don't remember his work as a consumer advocate.
I think his candicacy is even more an ego trip than it was in 2004.

Finally, the voice of reason.


Thank you, Patricia.

[Ron Thorne]

Originally Posted by GoodSpeak

You are aware, I hope, that the republicans gave Nader big bunches of money to run four years ago, right?


Besides, why on Earth would the Demos want to take votes away fom their own party-whydoIhavetokeepsayingthis?




Gaaa....just shoot me!

Sorry, Goody, but I don't believe this nonsense for a moment!

It makes absolutely no sense on any level.

I'll state my explanation/opinion one more time ... as follows, from Mayo Clinic dot com:

Narcissistic personality disorder


ARTICLE SECTIONS

Introduction Signs and symptoms Causes Risk factors When to seek medical advice

Screening and diagnosis Complications Treatment Prevention Self-care

Introduction

Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance and a deep need for admiration. They believe that they're superior to others and have little regard for other people's feelings. But behind this mask of ultra-confidence lies a fragile self-esteem, vulnerable to the slightest criticism.
Narcissistic personality disorder is one of several types of personality disorders. Personality disorders are conditions in which people have traits that cause them to feel and behave in socially distressing ways, limiting their ability to function in relationships and in other areas of their life, such as work or school. In particular, narcissistic personality disorder is characterized by dramatic, emotional behavior, in the same category as histrionic, antisocial and borderline personality disorders. Narcissistic personality disorder treatment is centered around psychotherapy.

NEXT:

Signs and symptoms

[GoodSpeak]

Originally Posted by Ron Thorne

Sorry, Goody, but I don't believe this nonsense for a moment!

It makes absolutely no sense on any level.

I'll state my explanation/opinion one more time ... as follows, from Mayo Clinic dot com:

Narcissistic personality disorder


ARTICLE SECTIONS





Introduction

Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance and a deep need for admiration. They believe that they're superior to others and have little regard for other people's feelings. But behind this mask of ultra-confidence lies a fragile self-esteem, vulnerable to the slightest criticism.
Narcissistic personality disorder is one of several types of personality disorders. Personality disorders are conditions in which people have traits that cause them to feel and behave in socially distressing ways, limiting their ability to function in relationships and in other areas of their life, such as work or school. In particular, narcissistic personality disorder is characterized by dramatic, emotional behavior, in the same category as histrionic, antisocial and borderline personality disorders. Narcissistic personality disorder treatment is centered around psychotherapy.

NEXT:

Signs and symptoms

I'll call ahead and reserve a room for you, Ron.


Um....thanks for sharing?



The Republicans are desperate for votes [again] and they know it.


It makes perfect sense.