January-6th-2009, 09:30 PM
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It's official! Bush got three things right!
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January-6th-2009, 09:52 PM
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There's a reason they're known as the "Remote Islands".
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January-6th-2009, 10:00 PM
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Doesn't matter.
Combine that with PEPFAR and the Northwest Hawaiian Islands preserve and that's a fucking hat trick, baby!
See? He wasn't ALL bad.
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January-6th-2009, 10:13 PM
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Banning underwater mining where the ocean's 36,000 feet deep? He may as well have enacted legislation mandating the sun rise in the east every morning.
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January-6th-2009, 10:27 PM
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Oh for Christ's sake. It's not just the Marianas Trench. And it's not just underwater mining.
C'mon, BoTrix.
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January-6th-2009, 10:52 PM
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He's also going to have to answer to a lot of pissed off Samoans about banning fishing in that coral reef.
Mosi Tatupu says hello.
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January-6th-2009, 11:18 PM
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ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ__
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From 'Bush's greatest achievement' thread 2 years ago:
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Originally Posted by Vince Kargatis
Positive-wise, I'll go with this, the declaration as national monument of a huge marine sanctuary near Hawaii, forbidding all commercial fishing.
http://www.hawaiireef.noaa.gov/ |
So yeah, no argument on this either.
Last edited by Vince Kargatis; January-6th-2009 at 11:19 PM.
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January-6th-2009, 11:35 PM
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Happy 50th, Alaska!
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I remember your post and comments from that earlier thread, Vince. In fact, I was thinking of it and about to search for it when I saw your response.
It's truly remarkable that Bush seems to care about this part of the planet when he obviously cares little about other parts, or the adverse impact of certain development, deforestation ... you name it. Go figure.
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January-7th-2009, 08:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bostontricky
Banning underwater mining where the ocean's 36,000 feet deep?
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That's where the four planes from 9/11 that supposedly hit the WTC, Pentagon and the PA field are interred.
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January-7th-2009, 09:47 AM
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Law of averages.
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January-7th-2009, 09:53 AM
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colors outside the lines
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what about that shoe dodging bit?
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January-7th-2009, 10:28 AM
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colors outside the lines
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January-7th-2009, 11:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vince Kargatis
From 'Bush's greatest achievement' thread 2 years ago:So yeah, no argument on this either.
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It's nice to know at least one person here is intellectually honest enough to look at this for what it is.
I'm willing to rip Bush with the best of them, but if you can't balance that out with giving a little credit where credit is due it certainly doesn't leave you with that much credibility.
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January-7th-2009, 12:51 PM
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Alright, but you've got to give me credit for working Mosi Tatupu into a political thread...
It's a magnanimous gesture by Bush, but I agree with the criticism mentioned by others in the article: if oceans continue to warm at the recent rate, that reef's going to be dead in twenty years.
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January-7th-2009, 12:56 PM
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Well, we could apply that line of thinking to damn near anything, couldn't we?
No need to protect anything anymore, it's all going to be dead from global warming within the next 100 years anyway.
And a full point credit for the Tatupu shout out. Though, you're showing your age by choosing him instead of the youngster.
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January-7th-2009, 01:06 PM
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This dovetails well with a recent Economist leader:
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...where fishing cannot be managed, it must simply be stopped. Nothing did so much good for fish stocks in northern Europe in the past 150 years as the second world war: by keeping trawlers in port, it let fisheries recover. A preferable solution today would be marine reserves, the more, and the bigger, the better.
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Last edited by Vince Kargatis; January-7th-2009 at 01:06 PM.
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January-7th-2009, 01:15 PM
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Yep.
Excellent quote.
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January-7th-2009, 01:32 PM
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There's at least one more thing he got right. He should live in Texas, and Texas is welcome to him.
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January-11th-2009, 08:54 AM
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The Bush Administration protected great swaths of the Pacific, yes. The Bush Administration also did admirable work to stop the international sex trade.
On the other hand, let's not get carried away. The fact that we can point to a few things done right just reinforces the sad truth of the nearly limitless things they did wrong.
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January-11th-2009, 01:24 PM
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Next year....
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I read today the Bush Admin. has made yet another assault on the environment: Allowing loggers to pave over logging roads in US Forest Service protected lands without first doing an environmental impact study.
Nice.
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January-11th-2009, 03:32 PM
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The Bluegrass
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Presidents always ram things through at the last minute. The Clinton admin issued a ruling in its final days limiting work with chainsaws to 30 minutes/day. Which would have brought the economy to grinding halt, quick. The Bush admin undid it as one of its first acts (one of two I agreed with -- the other was Bush's immigration stance, though I'd have gone further).
I'd guess Obama will undo the rules he doesn't like on issues he finds important.
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January-14th-2009, 10:10 PM
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Next year....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Sisco
Presidents always ram things through at the last minute. The Clinton admin issued a ruling in its final days limiting work with chainsaws to 30 minutes/day. Which would have brought the economy to grinding halt, quick. The Bush admin undid it as one of its first acts (one of two I agreed with -- the other was Bush's immigration stance, though I'd have gone further).
I'd guess Obama will undo the rules he doesn't like on issues he finds important.
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Chainsaws @ 30 minutes will bring the economy to a grinding halt...?
Um.
'Splain, please?
Last edited by GoodSpeak; January-14th-2009 at 10:11 PM.
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