January-14th-2009, 02:58 PM
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Six decades
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RIP Patrick McGoohan
Number 6 is now free.
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January-14th-2009, 03:48 PM
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My former avatar.
The Prisoner's only season was my all-time favorite season of any TV series.
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Humans clearly attend closely to status, an important part of status is dominance, and a key way we show dominance is to tell others what to do. Whoever gets to tell someone else what to do is dominating, and affirming their own status. But we are also clearly built to not notice most of our status moves, and so we attribute them to other motives. And as long as we are making up motives, we might as well make up the most admired of motives, altruism. --Robin Hanson
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January-14th-2009, 06:05 PM
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The mouldiest of all figs
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Secret Agent and The Prisoner were both fine shows.
I once met Patrick McGoohan at a little seafood restaurant at Bolinas. He came across as a very pleasant, but shy, man.
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January-14th-2009, 06:43 PM
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Unflappable
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Let's see...which death will get more media attention this evening, McGoohan's or Ricardo Montalban's? Hmmm...
Yeah, always enjoyed him especially, of course, in The Prisoner.
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January-14th-2009, 06:44 PM
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www.steveminkin.com
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordon B
The Prisoner's only season was my all-time favorite season of any TV series.
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For me, too.
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January-14th-2009, 06:55 PM
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I bought the first series Prisoner on DVD a few years ago but could not get into it. Still RIP. My question is, Did McGoohan have more than one facial expression?
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January-14th-2009, 08:33 PM
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I might have mange
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He's also well known to Columbo fanatics like me. Not a regular but he must have guest starred on it about 3 times.
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January-14th-2009, 10:06 PM
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Just be frank
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I actually prefer "Secret Agent" (Danger Man) to the "Prisoner", but they're both great TV shows of their era. I got the complete DVD sets of each a couple of years ago.
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January-14th-2009, 10:09 PM
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I watched a couple of Danger Man/Secret Agent episodes tonight.
I've always wanted to visit The Village. A JC hang in Portmeiron would be pretty cool!
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Humans clearly attend closely to status, an important part of status is dominance, and a key way we show dominance is to tell others what to do. Whoever gets to tell someone else what to do is dominating, and affirming their own status. But we are also clearly built to not notice most of our status moves, and so we attribute them to other motives. And as long as we are making up motives, we might as well make up the most admired of motives, altruism. --Robin Hanson
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January-15th-2009, 10:41 AM
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In the shadow of the 7
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The Prisoner was one of my favorite shows when I was a kid - other kids thought I was crazy. However, I can't think of the show anymore without thinking of Gordon, since the one and only time I met him he was wearing a t-shirt with the Prisoner's penny farthing bicycle logo.
Apparently McGoohan was very tired of doing Secret Agent and wanted more creative control, which was the genesis of the wonderful strangeness that was The Prisoner.
Bye Patrick - native son of Queens.
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January-15th-2009, 10:56 AM
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The Bluegrass
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Odds are he won't live to see tomorrow.
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January-15th-2009, 11:34 AM
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Quitting @ 10.4k
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RIP Secret Agent Man
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January-15th-2009, 03:29 PM
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theres a new prisoner movie featuring jim cavizel as no. 6 and ian mckellen as no. 2. truly bizarre show but excellent. he will be missed.
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January-15th-2009, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by gonzo
theres a new prisoner movie featuring jim cavizel as no. 6 and ian mckellen as no. 2. truly bizarre show but excellent. he will be missed.
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I only found the final episode to be bizarre but my main reason for posting is to break the post count tie with the Ricardo Montalban thread.
I mean who could prefer Tattoo to Leo McKern?
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Humans clearly attend closely to status, an important part of status is dominance, and a key way we show dominance is to tell others what to do. Whoever gets to tell someone else what to do is dominating, and affirming their own status. But we are also clearly built to not notice most of our status moves, and so we attribute them to other motives. And as long as we are making up motives, we might as well make up the most admired of motives, altruism. --Robin Hanson
Last edited by Gordon B; January-15th-2009 at 10:26 PM.
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January-16th-2009, 04:38 AM
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both are valued in their own way. both are deserving of praise. its not about who gets the most posts.
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November-5th-2009, 10:48 PM
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A new adaptation of The Prisoner starts on November 15.
Al in NYC, I hope you plan to watch. Ian McKellen is #2 and Jim Caviezel is #6 except in the new version they are just called "2" and "6."
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Humans clearly attend closely to status, an important part of status is dominance, and a key way we show dominance is to tell others what to do. Whoever gets to tell someone else what to do is dominating, and affirming their own status. But we are also clearly built to not notice most of our status moves, and so we attribute them to other motives. And as long as we are making up motives, we might as well make up the most admired of motives, altruism. --Robin Hanson
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November-5th-2009, 10:54 PM
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Next year....
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Secret Agent Man
by Johnny Rivers
There's a man who leads a life of danger,
To everyone he meets, he stays a stranger.
With every move he makes,
Another chance he takes.
Odds are he won't live to see tomorrow.
Secret agent man,
Secret agent man,
They've given you a number,
And taken 'way your name.
Beware of pretty faces that you find,
A pretty face can hide an evil mind.
Aw, be careful what you say,
You'll give yourself away.
Odds are you won't live to see tomorrow.
Secret agent man,
Secret agent man,
They've given you a number,
And taken 'way your name.
Secret agent man,
Secret agent man,
They've given you a number,
And taken 'way your name.
Swinging on the Riviera one day,
And then laying in a Bombay alley next day.
Oh, no, you let the wrong word slip,
While kissing persuasive lips.
The odds are you won't live to see tomorrow.
Secret agent man,
Secret agent man,
They've given you a number,
And taken 'way your name.
Secret agent man.
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November-5th-2009, 11:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordon B
A new adaptation of The Prisoner starts on November 15.
Al in NYC, I hope you plan to watch. Ian McKellen is #2 and Jim Caviezel is #6 except in the new version they are just called "2" and "6." |
The 15 minute Prisoner Preview on AMC was pretty good.
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Humans clearly attend closely to status, an important part of status is dominance, and a key way we show dominance is to tell others what to do. Whoever gets to tell someone else what to do is dominating, and affirming their own status. But we are also clearly built to not notice most of our status moves, and so we attribute them to other motives. And as long as we are making up motives, we might as well make up the most admired of motives, altruism. --Robin Hanson
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November-5th-2009, 11:55 PM
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Just be frank
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It can't be any good, can it??
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November-6th-2009, 02:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordon B
The 15 minute Prisoner Preview on AMC was pretty good.
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I saw it, too, and also thought it looked good. Seems to be faithful to the spirit and premises of the original. Looking forward to this!
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November-6th-2009, 10:29 AM
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The mouldiest of all figs
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We watched an old episode of The Prisoner the other night.
Man, that was a weird show.
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November-6th-2009, 10:09 PM
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Just be frank
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I think this needs a thread of its own.
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November-7th-2009, 12:36 AM
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Surely purists would regard this as unnecessary at best, and a travesty at worst. The inescapable 'remake culture' that dominates contemporary film (and now TV?) production promotes lazily ahistorical attitudes, attempting to obliterate the memory of classic works with leaden, CGI-laden simulacra, for an audience that supposedly will not tolerate watching anything over ten years old. McKellen may be a good actor, but that doesn't make this project any less redundant.
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November-7th-2009, 07:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedantic Wretch
Surely purists would regard this as unnecessary at best, and a travesty at worst. The inescapable 'remake culture' that dominates contemporary film (and now TV?) production promotes lazily ahistorical attitudes, attempting to obliterate the memory of classic works with leaden, CGI-laden simulacra, for an audience that supposedly will not tolerate watching anything over ten years old. McKellen may be a good actor, but that doesn't make this project any less redundant.
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I agree with your general point because most remakes are terrible. If the new Prisoner is the exception to the rule, i.e. a remake that pays homage to the original in a good way, then it may spur young folk today to go back to see the original series.
Has anybody ever been to The Village in Portmeiron? If i kept a "bucket list", that would be on it.
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Humans clearly attend closely to status, an important part of status is dominance, and a key way we show dominance is to tell others what to do. Whoever gets to tell someone else what to do is dominating, and affirming their own status. But we are also clearly built to not notice most of our status moves, and so we attribute them to other motives. And as long as we are making up motives, we might as well make up the most admired of motives, altruism. --Robin Hanson
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November-16th-2009, 04:36 PM
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Six decades
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