February-20th-2009, 09:48 AM
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Netanyahu to form government
Be afraid, be very afraid. Any prospects for peace just took a nasty nosedive.
Israel's Peres: Netanyahu will form new government
Fri Feb 20, 7:33 AM EST
Israeli President Shimon Peres chose hard-line Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu on Friday to form a new Israeli government, giving Netanyahu six weeks to cobble together a coalition.
The question now is whether Netanyahu will form a narrow government with his hard-line allies or a broad government along with his centrist rival, Kadima Party leader Tzipi Livni. His choice will have serious ramifications for the Mideast peace process.
Peres made his announcement early Friday afternoon after holding meetings with Netanyahu and Livni. An official ceremony appointing Netanyahu was to be held shortly afterward.
Peres had been meeting political leaders as he decided which candidate would be given the task of forming a new coalition in the aftermath of Israel's national election last week.
The choice of Netanyahu was cemented on Thursday when Avigdor Lieberman, who heads the hawkish Yisrael Beiteinu (Israel Our Home) party, endorsed the Likud leader.
Kadima edged out Likud in the election, capturing 28 seats to Likud's 27. But Likud is in a better position to put together a coalition because of gains by Lieberman and other hard-line parties.
Netanyahu now can form a hard-line government or bring Livni into a broad coalition that would provide more stability and help Israel avoid a clash with the Obama administration and much of the world.
Emerging from her meeting with Peres, Livni said she would not join a hard-line government and was prepared to sit in the opposition "if necessary."
"I will not be able to serve as a cover for a lack of direction. I want to lead Israel in a way I believe in, to advance a peace process based on two states for two peoples," Livni said.
With Livni out, Netanyahu might have little choice but to forge a coalition with nationalist and religious parties opposed to peacemaking with the Palestinians and Israel's other Arab neighbors.
This could set Israel on a collision course with the U.S., the Jewish state's top international patron, and its new president, who has vowed to make Mideast peace a top priority. And Netanyahu's hold on power would be more tenuous in a narrow coalition of rightists, where his allies could bring down the government in the face of any concession for peace.
It seemed possible that Livni's vow to join the opposition amounted to posturing ahead of coalition bargaining following Lieberman's endorsement of Netanyahu. Lieberman is an immigrant from the former Soviet Union who based his campaign on requiring Israeli Arabs to swear allegiance to the Jewish state or lose their citizenship.
Lieberman's party came in third place in the Feb. 10 election, after Kadima and Netanyahu's Likud. That essentially allowed him to determine whether Netanyahu or Livni would be able to muster the backing of a majority in parliament.
Lieberman's stance toward Arabs has exposed him to charges of racism and many see him as a far-right extremist. However, he is opposed to the Orthodox Jewish establishment's control over key aspects of public life in Israel, one of several positions that has enabled him to find common ground with moderates.
While announcing his support for Netanyahu on Thursday, Lieberman said he preferred a national unity government that included Livni over a narrow hard-line coalition.
Putting together a broad, centrist government would be a tall order for Netanyahu.
Livni has said she will not join Netanyahu in a government unless she can be an equal partner, presumably through the sort of "rotation" agreement Israel has tried in the past in which an election's top two winners each get to be prime minister for half of the government's four-year term.
Netanyahu, however, has ruled out any such arrangement.
As the political wrangling in Israel gains momentum, sporadic violence continues in Gaza in the absence of a long-term cease-fire between Israel and Hamas. Militants fired mortar shells at an Israeli patrol along the Gaza-Israel border Friday, Israeli defense officials said, and the troops returned fire. There were no injuries reported.
Egypt has been trying to mediate a truce since Israel ended its Gaza offensive Jan. 18. Hamas wants Israel to open Gaza's blockaded border crossings, while Israel wants a halt to arms smuggling and the return of a soldier captured in 2006.
Netanyahu has said Israel must topple the Hamas government in Gaza and says Israel halted the Gaza offensive too soon.
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February-23rd-2009, 12:45 PM
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February-23rd-2009, 02:31 PM
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Iran is not quite a red herring, but what Netanyahu needs to deal with is making a peaceable nation of its neighbors, the Palestinians. Ranting about Iran is just a way to take the focus off the whole issue.
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February-23rd-2009, 05:09 PM
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Yeah, Iran is a red herring with nukes. What Netanyahu might do is triangulate. The Obama administration would be wise to facilitate this: offer Syria terms to peel them away from their allies-of-convenience. Offer Syria some of the Golan Heights and a way in from the cold. Grease them with Washington facetime and cash. You take out Syria, you reduce the influence of Hezbollah and you remove a source of arms for Hamas. And you isolate Tehran.
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February-23rd-2009, 05:50 PM
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Yes, I agree GG it's a nasty development.
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February-25th-2009, 01:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monte Smith
Yeah, Iran is a red herring with nukes. What Netanyahu might do is triangulate. The Obama administration would be wise to facilitate this: offer Syria terms to peel them away from their allies-of-convenience. Offer Syria some of the Golan Heights and a way in from the cold. Grease them with Washington facetime and cash. You take out Syria, you reduce the influence of Hezbollah and you remove a source of arms for Hamas. And you isolate Tehran.
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Please excuse me but I'm trying to understand what this means.
Iran is a red herring with nukes: where's the herring ? they have the nukes, no ?
Triangulate, and the current administration facilitating means what ? seriously , what does that mean ?
Syria, already has all the arms that they want whenever they want them and they've already shown that they will do what they want. So which part of face time and cash would change them ?
I already thought ( my weakness ) that Iran was already isolated along with the rest of the axis of evil ? I'm not trying to be a smart ass about it but what part of isolation and what are the ends of isolating them suppose to lead to ?
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February-25th-2009, 08:52 AM
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It means perhaps a deal can be done with Syria, offering them rehabilitation in the Washington sphere of influence if they will turn their backs on their ally of convenience, Iran, and make some kind of permanent peace with Israel. That would lessen, but not negate, the security challenges Israel faces with Gaza, Lebanon, Syria, and Iran.
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February-26th-2009, 11:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monte Smith
It means perhaps a deal can be done with Syria, offering them rehabilitation in the Washington sphere of influence if they will turn their backs on their ally of convenience, Iran, and make some kind of permanent peace with Israel. That would lessen, but not negate, the security challenges Israel faces with Gaza, Lebanon, Syria, and Iran.
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But what makes you think that Syria needs the west or rehab ? I'm sure there are plenty of Syrians who don't want to be in rehab.
Thank you any how.
Last edited by ran; February-27th-2009 at 02:11 AM.
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