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Old May-24th-2009, 07:50 AM   #1
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John Mclaughlin Montreux box, CD 3 -5

It's a big box so i'll do this by section, cos i haven't listened to them all yet, and i firmly believe in giving any new album several listens before passing on my impressions of it.
I started with the 70s Shakti discs, because they were a great, great group. An inspired marriage of the Indian and Jazz improvising traditions.
First up, here's a link to a pretty good review of the box;
http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/news.php?id=2997
IMHO the Shakti performances on here are beyond well worth having. Particularly because of their rarity - there's been a few boots around, but generally of lamentably poor quality. The level of musicianship is stratospheric as one would expect, but Shankar tends to hit the high notes a bit too quickly - he should be pacing himself and giving his solos the narrative flow they have on the studio albums.
The percussion section is a dream team and Zakir in particular plays a monstrous solo in Get Down and Sruti (disc 5). There's an unbelievably fast bol duet in Nata (disc 4).

Minor Quibbles;
As always, with a live album you don't tend to get that through composed feeling i.e. with a sense of structure and dynamics that are clearly thought out. Any live albums that get released tend to have this, because they are cherry picked for it. (think of Agartha and Pangaea, and compare them to any boots from other gigs on that Japanese tour).

Also a relevant comparison - the first Shakti album, recorded live. I really missed some of the high points on that album, which just don't occur on the performances here. I'm thinking particularly of when John hits a chordal riff that just peaks the song.

I couldn't reccomend this music more, although the original albums are still the first place to go.
Next up: Mahivishnu Orchestra Mk III (I think, anyway it's discs 1 & 2)
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Old June-4th-2009, 01:40 PM   #2
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Looks like no one's managed to their paws on this one yet...
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Old June-16th-2009, 03:51 PM   #3
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A 17 CD set?? I don't have that bigga love for McLaughlin. I'm ok with Extrapolation and the first 5 Mahavishnus, Shakti neve touched my soul
Can't wait for you to tell about No 17
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Old June-19th-2009, 11:06 AM   #5
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Kinda ran out of steam for a bit. I'll pick it up again though. I've been listening over and over to the Shakti discs - a real treasure for those whose souls it did touch!
Hang on to your hat, cos it may be a week or two before i get to disc 17.
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Old July-6th-2009, 03:17 PM   #6
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Hmmmm... There just don't seem to be any true John McLaughlin fans out there. Perhaps his form has been somewhat inconsistent of late, although by all accounts his latest group is well competent (and the stuff with Corea is going down well by and large, although i don't really trust Corea any more).
Be that as it may, most of the discs on this set document him at one peak or another, and in particular with Shakti, one of the greatest improvising groups ever.
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The Five Peace band stuff I've heard is dreadful. I love both editions of Shakti. Just saw Srinivas & Selvaganesh as part of Miles from India in Montreal.
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Old July-6th-2009, 04:22 PM   #8
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The Five Peace band stuff I've heard is dreadful. I love both editions of Shakti. Just saw Srinivas & Selvaganesh as part of Miles from India in Montreal.
I second that emotion Mr. C! Glad to hear there' another Shakti fan around. Srinivas is the business and no mistake - what he does to a mandolin is unbelievable! The big bummer re the new Shakti is that John never replaced his Shakti guitar, which had a truly beautiful sound.

Why didn't he just go back to the same luthier? He's got a nice sound now, but it's a tad bland compared to the emotion he could wring out of the other.
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He played an electric guitar with Remember Shakti, and I believe it was a choice to change the flavor a bit.
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Old July-6th-2009, 06:01 PM   #10
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Hmmm. My personal jury's out on that one. Apparently the guitar was broke - by a friend he loaned it to, according to him. Not that his playing & sound isn't completely brilliant with Remember, just that the old school sound was utterly suited to the music, the mood etc. Hope he comes out with more Remember stuff soon.
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