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Old September-30th-2003, 06:42 PM   #1
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First the Birth of the Blues, Then the Fight Over Who Owns the Baby

First the Birth of the Blues, Then the Fight Over Who Owns the Baby

September 28, 2003
By BRENT STAPLES

The rap impresario Sean Combs, known as P. Diddy, had a huge hit this fall
asthe lead producer of the soundtrack for the movie "Bad Boys II," which
included the hot party tune "Shake Ya Tailfeather." Rap fans would be
surprised to know that the title dates back to the Mississippi juke joints
ofthe early 20th century, where black field hands gathered to hear blues
music after long days in the cotton fields.

Northern rap artists pride themselves on being urban sophisticates but are
playing a version of the music enjoyed by black field workers in the Deep
South more than 50 years ago. Stripped to its essentials, "Shake Ya
Tailfeather" is a dead ringer for any number of blues tunes by
Mississippians, including "Shake Your Moneymaker," by Elmore James, and
"WangDang Doodle," by the legendary Willie Dixon.

The alchemy that transformed the blues music into jazz, then rock 'n' roll -
and later on into rock music and rap -
did its work in the speakeasies, brothels, juke joints and churches that sat
cheek by jowl on the South Side of Chicago in the early 20th century. Among
the millions of black people who fled the South in the Great Migration,
hundreds of thousands came to Chicago, including the talismanic blues stars
Howlin' Wolf and Muddy Waters, and the bass man and songwriter Willie Dixon,
all of whom recorded for Chess Records. Depending on who tells the story,
Phil and Leonard Chess, the founders, were either benevolent patrons or
rip-off artists who created the
paradigm for how to fleece musicians.

The seven-part film history of the blues music that begins tonight on PBS
does a decent job of showing how the Delta blues came in with slaves from
West Africa and changed the way that the world listened to music, thanks in
part to Chess, which handled not just the blues giants, but early rock 'n'
rollers like Bo Diddley and Chuck Berry. But the series scarcely mentions
thebitter controversy over how much the Chess brothers and the music
publishing company they partly owned exploited these artists. The segment
that should tell this story - the one on
Chess itself - dismisses the exploitation as a figment of the bluesmen's
imagination.

The blues music that began in the Mississippi Delta was a distinctly black
art form enjoyed by black people all over the South. Visit a blues concert
inthe North today, however, and you will find that the audience is almost
entirely white. The directors of this film series took note of when the
audiences turned white but seem not to grasp why. In the segment "The Road
ToMemphis," B. B. King, now one of the world's most famous blues musicians,
painfully recalled being booed by a young black audience in Baltimore in
whatappears to be the late 1950's, when Little Richard was packing them in
with his patented scream and hard-driving piano rock 'n' roll.

The Northern black community's rejection of blues music was partly a matter
of aesthetic evolution. But by turning their back on the blues, black urban
audiences were also distancing themselves from a rural Southern past that
hadcome to seem backward and shameful to many of them.

B. B. King describes the rejection he experienced during this period as like
"being black twice." Mr. King
persevered, crisscrossing the country year after year, until blues came back
into fashion - but this time for a white audience that discovered it during
the folk revolution.

The real money came into play when British rock bands - like the Rolling
Stones and Cream - began to rerecord blues standards, paying out millions in
royalties that should have gone to the blues artists who wrote the songs.
Many bluesmen found that the rights to their work belonged to publishers
associated with their record companies.

The lawsuits flew hot and heavy in Chicago, where the big artists associated
with Chess Records filed nasty claims charging that the publishing firm
ownedpartly by the Chess brothers had swindled them. Muddy Waters and Willie
Dixon received undisclosed settlements and eventually regained ownership of
the disputed songs. Howlin' Wolf died while his case was still tied up in
litigation - a lesson to other musicians to settle while they could.

Those interested in this aspect of the story should begin with "Spinning
Blues Into Gold: The Chess Brothers and the Legendary Chess Records," by
Nadine Cohodas. The film in this series on the Chicago blues, titled
"Godfathers and Sons," does not mention the lawsuits. The director
inexplicably allows Marshall Chess - whose father and uncle started Chess
Records - to dismiss the royalties issue in a few, glib lines. Marshall
Chessdescribes the blues artists as childlike men who were interested only
inCadillacs and beautiful women, and who
needed what he unfortunately describes as a "plantation owner" to look after
their affairs.

The decision to let these remarks go unchallenged was grotesquely
irresponsible. Even rappers fresh off the street who couldn't name a blues
song if you paid them know that many of the musicians who came before them
were cheated. These rappers show up at the record company door demanding
deals that allow them to own their works, which allows them to get rich -
andto sing about getting rich. These songs, too, are a legacy of the blues.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/28/op...065799713&ei=1[1]
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Old September-30th-2003, 06:54 PM   #2
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Very interesting and enlightening article. I read it quickly but I didn't see anything about class differences. If not, the article missed out on an important point. Middle class blacks might (and did, and do) turn up their noses at the blues but the struggling class has hung in there.

On a slightly different note, I'm waiting for the debate over how the blues is a European music form because it is played on European instruments.
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Old September-30th-2003, 06:58 PM   #3
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Nice article, Lois.

If Chess really made the "plantation owner" comment in that context, that's an extremely despicable thing to say. What an idiot.


Regarding the rejection of the blues by black audiences, what would one expect? We here ara always talking about the continually evolving nature of creative music. Nowadays, this is music their great grandparents listened to. No one should feel any obligation to listen to music of any kind simply because of their ancestors. I mean, how many 20-30 year old white people are listening to old-timey music? The phenomenon is interesting to investigate, however.
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Old September-30th-2003, 07:39 PM   #4
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Thanks for posting this , Lois ..

The fact that the Chess Bros. seemingly got what amounts to a pass
for what the did to all those blues greats is unconscionable. Maybe
another of the "film makers" will right the wrong somewhere along
in the series ..

Its too bad we cant post mp3s here ..I happen to have in my collection
of musical arcana, a disgusting
bootleged rant from one of the brothers at an early 60s sales meeting
that pretty well spells out what these guys were all about.
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Old October-1st-2003, 03:13 AM   #5
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I'm waiting for the debate over how the blues is a European music form because it is played on European instruments.
Well, hey, the piano is a European musical instrument, right? And it's got all those notes on it, right? So doesn't that mean the notes C through F are European? Doesn't it, huh? Just try playing the blues without any notes! Ipso facto. Some people. I mean, really.
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Old October-1st-2003, 05:58 AM   #6
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Thanks for posting that interesting article, Lois.

Another book that is very informative from the point of view of the Chess brothers' relationship to their blues artists is the excellent new Little Walter biography, "Blues with a Feeling."




What is nice about this book on the question of the Chess brothers is that there is no particular political agenda behind it all, just a serious attempt to get the facts as straight as possible.

Little Walter had a rather casual attitude about the terms of his contracts and money due to him, and the Chess brothers took full advantage of that. At the time when Little Walter was consistently in the top of the R&B charts, the Chess brothers bought him a few cadillacs and gave him handfulls of cash when he asked for it. But they clearly took all of the windfall themselves. After Little Walter's popularity took a dive in the late 1950s, there were no more cadillacs or much of anything else.
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Old October-1st-2003, 10:42 AM   #7
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Actually, the truth is that African American music was never even remotely influenced by European sources (the same goes for African American writers--James Baldwin never read any European or white American authors--and, of course painters. How could African American painter be influenced by anything other than African art?). Granted, the instruments used in jazz and European music are the same, but there never was--and isn't even to this day--one iota, one hint, one droplet of European influence in any African American's use of those same instruments. Chord changes used, say, by John Coltrane or Duke Ellington have no relationship to the harmonic concepts of white European music, and, as Tom points out, a C-major chord played by a black person is simply not the same as a C-major chord played by a white European. Black music should never be discussed as part of a greater world music, since every manifistation of it, even on these shores, springs from a vision uninfluenced by--nay, unadulterated by--anything hinting at European. Scales, arpeggios, the twelve-tone tempered system of harmony--what fool could even hint that there is even a smattering of the European in these things when a black person is using them. The bottom line is, white people shouldn't even be playing or talking about music that they had nothing to do with, and should try to use the instruments that are only conincidentally used by their black brethren (not to mention their oppressive European forebears) to play music that is European in nature. Any claim that any black person of any time was influenced by anything white is, of course, resoundingly ludicrous.
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I think we can conclude that no one here would assert either extreme in earnest.


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Old October-1st-2003, 11:32 AM   #9
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as Tom points out, a C-major chord played by a black person is simply not the same as a C-major chord played by a white European
Hey, leave me out of this! My post (intended to be light-hearted and self-parodying) meant to comically assert the opposite: that the blues must actually be European since European instruments produce all the notes in the chromatic scale, and you can't play the blues without notes!

No way I'm going to get involved in the flaming frenzy that threatens us here. Run for the hills!
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It was to avert a flaming frenzy that I posted #8.
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And a fine thing it was that you did, Rita. And we all know what happens to reasonable people who try to avert flame wars. You risk being burned to a crisp! ;-)
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Don't you "love" the way some people are so unpleasantly predictable? When I read the response to Tom's post I laughed out loud. Oh, my.
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Old October-1st-2003, 04:33 PM   #13
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Glad to hear that "Rain of Ruin" agrees with my "predictable" assessment. It is, after all, the viewpoint she has adopted in numerous threads whenever the discussion of possible--and to her, no doubt, pernicious--European (aka white) influence on jazz is brought up on the board.

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Old October-1st-2003, 09:31 PM   #14
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Cover Paul with a napkin and ignore him.

I haven't seen any of the series, but I've read a couple thousand yards of newsprint about them. That said, it is my sense that Marshall Chess did himself no favors by appearing. Maybe he thinks what the Chess Brothers did was okay. That doesn't say much for him, now does it?

It doesn't matter where the instruments or the notation came from. What matters is what persons of African descent did with them in America.

How is it that after 35 years I still get a chill listening to B.B. King Live At The Regal? I mean, like many of my generation, I've lived through five decades of music on record players, AM radio, FM, tape, CD, and all sorts of digital file formats. Music is now a nearly omnipresent commodity. I can listen to whatever I want whenever I want. Chuck Berry, Jackie Wilson, Radiohead, Bach, Eddie Jefferson, whatever. It comes and goes. But what never goes away is my desire, still, to hear "Sweet Little Angel." Why? Because it feels good. That's all, really. Otherwise I'd listen to something else.

Hmmm. Maybe a little Grant Green.
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Old October-2nd-2003, 10:57 AM   #15
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It doesn't matter where the instruments or the notation came from. What matters is what persons of African descent did with them in America.
No kidding.

The point is that it stretches logic to call a music 100% African when it is played on western instruments and uses as its base--no matter how much that base is changed, bent, stretched, whatever--a western system of harmony.

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Actually, the truth is that African American music was never even remotely influenced by European sources .... Chord changes used, say, by John Coltrane or Duke Ellington have no relationship to the harmonic concepts of white European music, and, as Tom points out, a C-major chord played by a black person is simply not the same as a C-major chord played by a white European.....Scales, arpeggios, the twelve-tone tempered system of harmony--what fool could even hint that there is even a smattering of the European in these things when a black person is using them. The bottom line is, white people shouldn't even be playing or talking about music that they had nothing to do with, .

Not to ruin the above screed ( which seemes to have an anti-white jazz perspective at its core), but Paul B is playing way fast and loose with actual music theory, its genesis , and its inclusion within the african musical
scheme. Some of his statements , besides being totally false, show a complete ignorance not only European
harmonic practices, but Arfican musical materials as well.

While the biggest African influences on jazz are by far in the areas of poly rhythmic virtuoisity, African musical materials tend to be basically monophonic in nature ..not harmonic per se. Furthermore, most of these melodies are based on a pentatonic scale ( C Eb F G Bb ) which IS closly allied with the so called "Blues" scale ( which includes the Gb and sometimes , the E ) However, if there had never been a Wagner, or a Debussy, there wouldn't have been a Strayhorn or Ellington either. John Coltrane couldn't have done what he did without a thorough study of polytonal implications and was known to have spent long periods practicing materials from the the Slonimsky Thesaurus of scales and patterns. I doubt that one would think of this gentleman as "African "

the bottom line is: people who have little or no working knowledge of the materials and history that make up music ( in this case, jazz or other afro/American music ) shouldn't be spouting racist statements like his last sentence. ( Regardless of the race of the author ...)

pass the gasoline, please ...
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Paul was B'in' sarcastic.

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It seems we're a little slow waking up this morning, GP.
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It seems we're a little slow waking up this morning, GP
Indeed...Please get GP some coffee...

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Indeed...Please get GP some coffee...

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If the Paul B screed was intended to be ironic /sarcastic ..whatever,
sorry I was so obtuse to have missed the humor ..( I guess the Stanley Crotch
sendup ..if that's what was going on .. slipped under my radar )

I've discovered that satire, irony, and other such humor dont
play well on the net ..

that being said .. upon review of the thread , I couldn't find anything
to suggest a source for the percieved irony of the cited screed. ( I
guess I missed the fact that the outrageousness of the whole thing
was supposed to be funny ..0

sorry ..whatever ..
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GP, I was commenting on/reacting to Rainy Day's post at the top of the thread ("I'm waiting for the debate over how the blues is a European music form because it is played on European instruments") wherein she brings her mis-reading of my notion, put forth on several threads on this board, that jazz cannot be considered a purely African music because it is played not only on western instruments, but with a western harmonic system. As you so rightly note, without certain developments in western classical music there would be no Ellington or Coltrane.

The sad thing is that people like RD take this idea to mean that whites are denying black originality. That couldn't be farther from the truth; only an absolute fool would deny that the music wasn't created by blacks. On the other hand, it seems disingenuous to act like jazz somehow arose out of thin air, and is not related in any way to the western tradition. It is, after all, African-AMERICAN music.

So yes, my "screed" was entirely and wholeheartedly an exercise in sarcasm--though one that I think fairly represents the views of RD and others of her ilk.

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There was one statement made in the Scorcese film -- by Toure, I think -- saying that there were no black Americans, but Africans in America.
I think there might be some African-Americans who disagree with that.
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only an absolute fool would deny that the music wasn't created by blacks.
I think your intention would require changing "deny" to "claim" or "wasn't" to "was."
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Quite right Pete. Either way works.

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PaulB: I posted what I did to pull your reactionary, chip on your shoulder, chain and it worked. Last week you accused Fleurette Africaine of saying that whites can't play jazz. She didn't. I never said it either. Neither did I say jazz was a purely African music form. Please get the help you need.
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There was one statement made in the Scorcese film -- by Toure, I think -- saying that there were no black Americans, but Africans in America.
I think there might be some African-Americans who disagree with that.
I disagree. Most African-Americans, or Carribbeanites (?) like myself look nothing like West Africans, much less East- or Sahel-Africans.
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Langston Hughes was startled to discover that when he went to Africa and said he was a black man the Africans he met insisted he wasn't black.
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GP, I was commenting on/reacting to Rainy Day's post at the top of the thread ("I'm waiting for the debate over how the blues is a European music form because it is played on European instruments") ....
So yes, my "screed" was entirely and wholeheartedly an exercise in sarcasm--though one that I think fairly represents the views of RD and others of her ilk.

Bye-ya.

Sorry Paul;

I guess I didn't scroll back far enough to find that . Early on, I was more into the criminal
doings and the mishandling of black artists by the Chess Bros .....however:

>>Originally posted by Paul B
only an absolute fool would deny that the music wasn't created by blacks.
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I think your intention would require changing "deny" to "claim" or "wasn't" to "was." <<


the suggested changes in syntax might have not caused me to hit the" anti -screed button" so fast


maybe I did need some coffee

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