RECALL ARNOLD!

Come one, you Californiates! The fun doesn't have to end here. The billion dollar pre-election excitement can be maintained. Madonna could decide to become a candidate in a Recall Arnold thing. She can play the Nazi card on Arnold with black leather and whips. "Grope this!!!"

[jesus marion joseph]

Originally posted by John L
Come one, you Californiates! The fun doesn't have to end here. The billion dollar pre-election excitement can be maintained. Madonna could decide to become a candidate in a Recall Arnold thing. She can play the Nazi card on Arnold with black leather and whips. "Grope this!!!"

Now *that* would have entertainment value.

[Uli]

Right on, John.

The permanent recall, the hollywood prodution of the permanent revolution.

[Gary Sisco]

Well, we should have known when the people decided to become spectators instead of citizens that showbiz would one day replace politics, and it has.

[RBS]

On and on it goes.

[BFrank]

I can see it now:


RECALL II: Back to the Bunker

One benefit of the circus outcome is, of course, that Schwartzenegger will have to curtail his film career.

[Dan G]

Originally posted by Chris A
One benefit of the circus outcome is, of course, that Schwartzenegger will have to curtail his film career.

Why? He doesn't actually have anything to say about policy or anything of substance. I figure he'll just hire a team of strategists to run the state. He can still make films, and just have to be within a short distance of Sacremento a few weeks of the year when the legislature is in session (I assume that Cal. is like most other places, where they only meet for a month or so each quarter.

[Monte Smith]

As I understand it, the recall process is predicated on getting a number of signatures equal to a certain percent of the voter turnout in the immediately preceding election. [Takes breath.] Thus yesterday's enormous voter turnout bodes well for Schwartzenegger, as it means the Dems will be required to get many, many more signatures than Issa had to get in order to force a second recall. [Takes breath.] 2002 was a very low turnout election.

And, of course, being one who blindly follows the GOP line, you are unable to stop, think some of your thoughts, and see how absolutely outrageous Californians have been in electing this clueless weightlifter.

I think, if you could divorce yourself from the party line for just a moment, you would see the light, Monte.

It simply isn't your call to make, Chris. Your opinion is nothing more than that, an opinion. You have pretty much destroyed any trace of credibility by your constant allegiance to all things far left. For you to look down on others and accuse them of following a party line is quite laughable considering how fiercely loyal you are to your own party line.

Almost everyone here at one point or another has compromised on a partisan political point. Everyone but you.

So please, you have no capacity to admit to any flaws in your own affiliations, stop deriding others.

[GoodSpeak]

Originally posted by Chris A
One benefit of the circus outcome is, of course, that Schwartzenegger will have to curtail his film career.

Yeah, now he has to "act" like a governor.


["Pay no attention to that man behind the recall...I am the Great and Powerful Gov"]



Groping notwithstanding.

[bbrooksux]

Originally posted by Uli
Right on, John.

The permanent recall, the hollywood prodution of the permanent revolution.

Predator III -- Arnie took over California and Sonny (Billy) Landham wants Kentucky. F@*k the (illegal) alien!!
http://www.sonnylandham.com/governor.cfm

[Chris D]

This ain't really a life, ain't really a life, ain't really ain't nothin' but a movie....-Gil

[BFrank]

From the end of an article on this afternoon's NY Times web site:

As a backdrop to all of it, Mr. Schwarzenegger must deal with ill feeling among hard-core Democrats, some of whom are toying with the idea of launching a recall against Mr. Schwarzenegger. Ms. Feinstein said she would oppose such an effort, but she acknowledged that some Democrats were already poised to bankroll it. ``I think it's a mistake,'' she said.

[Gordon B]

Originally posted by BFrank
From the end of an article on this afternoon's NY Times web site:

As a backdrop to all of it, Mr. Schwarzenegger must deal with ill feeling among hard-core Democrats, some of whom are toying with the idea of launching a recall against Mr. Schwarzenegger. Ms. Feinstein said she would oppose such an effort, but she acknowledged that some Democrats were already poised to bankroll it. ``I think it's a mistake,'' she said.

Feinstein's right. I'm sure the Republican party would love to see the Dems immediately launch a recall effort against AS. It won't happen.

Originally posted by Scott Dolan
For you to look down on others and accuse them of following a party line is quite laughable considering how fiercely loyal you are to your own party line.

Almost everyone here at one point or another has compromised on a partisan political point. Everyone but you.

First of all, I have no party line to be loyal to. If it appears that way, perhaps it's because I think it is wrong to deceive the American public when you are the head of the current regime--even if you were appointed rather than elected. I also think it is wrong to send people to their death or into harm's way for nothing more than you own self-seving reasons. So, yes, I can see why people who blindly follow the appointed leader are not comfortable in the knowlege that millions don't. It appears to be difficult for you to understand how some people are true to themselves anddraw their own conclusions rather than go with the flow.

When one considers all the wrongs the Bush regime is guilty of, all the havoc it has wreaked in Iraq (when people long for Saddam, you know things aren't exactly honky dory), all the misery its flawed policies are heaping upon innocent people, here and elsewhere, all the needless deaths, all the lies it continues to perpetrate, etc. it is truly difficult to understand how some people can simply pretend that it isn't so. Rice, Powell, the appointed dimwit, and their sleazy associates can continue huffing and puffing and lying, but the clock is ticking--facts have a stubborn way of floating to the top, for all to see. You might even spot one or two!

[Gordon B]

Scott, do you detect any bitterness in Chris' post?

[Uli]

Originally posted by Gordon B
Feinstein's right.

Indeed she is. I saw an interview with her yesterday where she sed she thought the recall provision was abused. She also sed that she was asked to run and just could not get herself to participate in this charade.

[steve(thelil)]

Originally posted by Gordon B
Scott, do you detect any bitterness in Chris' post?

I'm not Scott, but I too find Chris to be overly doctrinaire at times, but I honest believe the post in question was insightful and not at all fueled by bitterness.


Vietnam II, baby (instead of really spending all the money, resources and effort on fighting terrorism)

[GoodSpeak]

Originally posted by Gordon B
Scott, do you detect any bitterness in Chris' post?

You mean you need his help...?


Think for yourself, Gordon.


Um, sorry.


Too Democrat?

[Uli]

Originally posted by GoodSpeak
You mean you need his help...?


Think for yourself, Gordon.


Um, sorry.


Too Democrat?

No, I don't think Gordon is partisan, Goodie. It's probably just outside his realm.

[Captain Hate]

Hey Gordon, do ya think Arnold's going to make school choice the cornerstone of a very successful term in office??

Oy...........

Originally posted by Gordon B
Scott, do you detect any bitterness in Chris' post?

Bitterness? In Chris A? Surely you jest!!

Though I'm not sure why folks felt inclined to answer for me. And c'mon Goodz, Gordon wasn't looking for help. Why so uptight today?

Chris, who is longing for Saddam?

And lets not kid anybody about who is blinded and who isn't. You can only see things one way, and it's been like that ever since I started coming here. I have spoken out on occassion against things that President Bush has said and done. You on the other hand consistantly and repeatedly spew nothing but venom against him. Your blindness is your own, my friend

[GoodSpeak]

Originally posted by Scott Dolan
And c'mon Goodz, Gordon wasn't looking for help. Why so uptight today?

nd

Please.

I'll give you one California/muscle-head hint...

[GoodSpeak]

Oy.

Oopz, sorry brother, I forgot.

Hey this'll cheer you up.

Just think,you could be saying Governor Coleman instead.

The bitterness in Chris A's post is the kind that comes from anger. He has good reason to be angry. I am angry too.

[Uli]

Yesterday my brother called from Switzerland. An he *never* calls. And he is a conservative banker. Just to tell me that we now have the guy we deserve. "Degenerate" is the word he used to describe us.

[jesus marion joseph]

Originally posted by Uli
Yesterday my brother called from Switzerland. An he *never* calls. And he is a conservative banker. Just to tell me that we now have the guy we deserve. "Degenerate" is the word he used to describe us.

I don't mean to denigrate your brother, or imply that he was somehow personally involved, but isn't the Swiss banking community the same one that helped Hitler stash the wealth he stole from the Jews of Germany in WWII, with full knowledge of where the dough was coming from, then stonewall the same Jews who tried to get information from them about what had happened to their and their families' property after the war?

If I were a Swiss banker (even though I may not be one who participated in the Hitler stash thing) I would think long and hard about rehabilitating my industry's image and establishing a better "public relations" persona before casting aspersions such as "degenerate" on other folks. But that's just my $.02 worth (as a second generation descendant of "degenerate" German stock).