The Beer Thread

Tanager · March-21st-2003, 01:05 PM

Douglas · March-21st-2003, 01:11 PM

Jimmy Cantiello · March-21st-2003, 04:23 PM

Sorry, I just had to play with my new toy................

Chris Castelle · March-21st-2003, 04:39 PM

Damn, can't seem to post images....I was going to post a stack of cases of Milwaukee's Best, I guess you can see it from following the link, but it's not the same...

Jimmy Cantiello · March-21st-2003, 04:43 PM

How's that, Chris?..............

Gary Sisco · March-22nd-2003, 10:13 AM

Still with the Rogue. Yellow Snow Ale, baby.

Captain Hate · March-22nd-2003, 11:27 AM

Ok, Gary you've been posting about that for a while so I guess its time I give it a try. I had one of the other Rogues (a dark beer that I don't recall the name for) and found it to be good. But not good enough to get me off of my barley ale kick for long; lets see, how many brain cells are left...

Jimmy Cantiello · March-22nd-2003, 11:41 AM

I gave Shrugs a bottle of Rogue Yellow Snow. I don't know if he drank it yet and if he did drink it, I don't know if he liked it................

Gary Sisco · March-22nd-2003, 12:37 PM

Capt -- I had one of their stouts, but I'm not much of a stout guy except on very rare occasions. I like the Rogue Golden Ale, Yellow Snow Ale, and Dead Guy Ale (the latter needs to be respected as I believe it has a higher alcohol content than the others). I like the barley wine ale, too, but had to give it up except for rare occasions in the safety of my own home.

catesta · March-22nd-2003, 12:42 PM

Jason Bivins · March-22nd-2003, 03:53 PM

Speaking of barley wine ales . . . Another recent discovery (or rather, a trilogy of discoveries) comes from Colorado's Avery Brewery. They put out 3 different ales roughly in the barley wine genre: The Reverend, Salvation, and Hog Heaven. All good, all dangerous.

walto · March-22nd-2003, 07:21 PM

Like that Spaten. But I still mainly drink Julius Echter here in the states.

Kevin Bresnahan · March-22nd-2003, 09:48 PM

My favorite

Chris Castelle · March-22nd-2003, 11:24 PM

WOOHOO!

Chris Castelle · March-22nd-2003, 11:37 PM

My favorite.

walto · March-23rd-2003, 10:20 AM

OK, I'll play. Here's a portrait of the redoubtable Herr Echter. You can kind of see how serious he took this purity biz.

Tanager · March-23rd-2003, 08:21 PM

Topic: What's the best domestic (US) Weizen, in your opinion?

Discuss.

Chris Castelle · March-23rd-2003, 10:40 PM

Good question, Tanager--the standard bearer of American Hefe is probably Widmer brothers, and I was mightily impressed with it when I first had it, but I was pretty inexperienced with beer at the time, and it was the first wheat beer I'd ever tasted, so it was probably sheer unfamiliarity that led to my being so taken with it. I had a pretty bad experience with Harpoon's UFO (Un-Filtered Offering) Hefeweizen, but the bottles had been stored at room temperature for what was probably quite a long time, so I shouldn't write it off. I found Redhook Hefe to be quite tasty, and eventually re-encountered Widmer, which wasn't as exciting as I remembered but still good. I've yet to sample any actual German Hefeweizen, though liquor stores in my area always seem to have a few dusty and forlorn six packs of Paulaner lying around.

Here's the rub, though--Widmer brothers and Redhook are both part-owned by Anheuser-Busch, which makes consuming either of them somewhat politically incorrect, and A-B is apparently phasing out the Redhook product and replacing it nationwide with Widmer Brothers--I read a rumor about it on beeradvocate.com and later saw what appeared to be confirmation of this in a NYC supermarket recently--Redhook six-packs (ESB, IPA, Porter, but no Hefe) lined up with Widmer six-packs where the Redhook Hefe should have been. So I guess Redhook Hefeweizen is no more, on account of corporate meddling, and the only widly available American Hefeweizen is essentially a product of the corporation that's responsible.

The American Hefeweizen situation, then, is apparently quite grim.

walto · March-23rd-2003, 11:02 PM

I'm no expert, but I've never tasted an American hefe I've liked even a little.

Kevin Bresnahan · March-24th-2003, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by walto
I'm no expert, but I've never tasted an American hefe I've liked even a little.

I'd almost say "ditto" but I have on ocassion enjoyed a Red Hook Hefe. I don't think the Harpoon UFO suffered from heat exposure: it just plain sucks in my opinion. One that might suprise you if you don't mind a little fruitiness (and which may no longer be made for all I know) is Sam Adams' Cherry Wheat... actually, when I think about, it might not even be a hefe.

I've tried a lot of micro-brewed hefe-weiss beers as well and I have to say that the Germans know how to make this beer, Americans don't quite have it. Another point: in my travels in Germany, I've had many, many hefes and rarely did they come with a lemon wedge... who the hell needs a lemon wedge in their beer? That "tradition" that they try over here in the US should be stopped immediately!

Oh yeah, and lastly, of all the German Hefe-Weisse beers out there, Paulaner is one of my least favorites. So if you do pick up that dusty six-pack, don't give up too quick. :>)

Later,
Kevin

walto · March-24th-2003, 09:25 AM

Right on about the stupid lemon wedges. I hope everyone just throws them at their waiters--unless of course, they're nice or cute or something. Then you just place them nicely under your chair.

Knike · March-28th-2003, 06:11 AM

For the first time in my life, I visited our local Brewing Company Heineken-Calanda. (Heineken took over the old traditional Calanda-Bräu Company a couple of years ago. All Heineken sold in Switzerland are now made there).
It was very interesting to see how beer is made today and where the roots are. And of course I could try all beer I wanted for free !!
(Reminds me of Homer S. visting the Duff-Brewery: "Mmmh Beer !!")

blake · March-28th-2003, 04:07 PM

Quote:

What's the best domestic (US) Weizen, in your opinion?

the only us-made wheat beer i've ever enjoyed is celis white. it is, however, a wit rather than a weizen.

hoppy nose with hints of citrus. nice and light with little aftertaste. very refreshing.

the celis brewery was started in the early 90s in austin, texas by a belgian named pierre celis. a cult following grew. many awards were won. in the late 90's celis moved back to belgium and turned the brewery over to his daughter and son-in-law. they prompty cashed out, selling to miller. miller, who had no intention of running celis, shut it down. thankfully, in came the michigan brewing company. they purchased celis from miller and have started brewing once again, albeit in michigan rather than texas. try a celis white if you can find one. and screw the lemon wedge.

if all efforts to locate a celis fail, have a shiner bock instead. it's good for you. just ask lance armstrong how he won the tour de france 4 times.

Captain Hate · April-5th-2003, 11:27 PM

The latest sampling par moi of Stone Brewing Co.'s output (howz this for a name?): Ruination India Pale Ale. Needless to say: BLAM!!!

God knows how many brain cells have been lost since the great Jason C. put me on to this brewery!!

Salvador Dali Lama · April-6th-2003, 12:09 AM

milwaukee's best, right on. An upper-echelon redneck beer, I love it.

I got my pbr on the other night. Usually I'm at least lower-middle class enough to have Natty Ice instead, but when a brother is broke a brother is broke.

shrugs · April-6th-2003, 02:13 PM

has anyone tried Dogfish Head?

Jimmy, the Yellow Snow was great. I thought i sent an e-mail to your addres that was posted at the old JC.

shrugs · April-9th-2003, 04:56 PM

Having yet another Sierra Nevada Bigfoot!!! One of my all time favorites!

Douglas · April-11th-2003, 07:50 AM

Looking forward to sampling some fine pilsners during a few days in Prague.

For those of you who take beer drinking religously:

The Beer Prayer

Our lager,
Which art in barrels,
Hallowed be thy drink,
Thy will be drunk,
(I will be drunk),
At home as I am in the tavern.
Give us this day our foamy head,
And forgive us our spillages,
As we forgive those who spill against us,
and lead us not to incarceration,
But deliver us from hangovers,
For thine is the beer,
The bitter and the lager,
Forever and ever,
Barmen.

A Lenten Prayer

We believe in one drink, Guinness the almighty Makers of cans and bottles Of all that is drunk and un-drunk We believe in one brewer, Arthur The only son of Guinness Eternally begotten of the hops Hops from hops, barley from barley True drink from true drink Begotten not made Of one distillery of the Father Through it all things were made For us men and our salvation It comes down from St. James Gate By the power of the market he became incarnate And was made a rich man For our sake we are crucified under Pontious Prices Bad pints, suffer hangovers and A.A. meetings On the next day we rise again in accordance With our scruples and ascend into oblivion We come again to judge the living and the dead We believe in one alcoholic beverage Brewed and bottled under one licence We acknowledge one Arthur, son of the almighty pint Conceived in heaven and sold on earth Blessed is the one drink through one father and many sons Sold under one label and distributed throughout the! world We look for the resurrection of new drinks And a cure for hangovers.
Amen

aristide · April-11th-2003, 07:59 AM

cheers!!!

Jimmy Cantiello · April-11th-2003, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by shrugs
has anyone tried Dogfish Head?

Jimmy, the Yellow Snow was great. I thought i sent an e-mail to your addres that was posted at the old JC.

Yeah, Shrugs, I did get an e-mail but I believe you only mentioned the Rioja. Glad you enjoyed Yellow Snow!.............