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I agree, lock the treehuggers up! 4 28.57%
This is a violation of civil liberties! 9 64.29%
They really are pimps, pretending to be Green protesters! 1 7.14%
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Old January-27th-2004, 08:31 PM   #1
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US uses 1872 pimp law against activists

US uses 1872 law against activists
Greenpeace protest draws charges citing statute to stop pimps
By Catherine Wilson, Associated Press, 1/26/2004

MIAMI -- When prosecutors brought charges against Greenpeace for protesting a shipment of Amazon mahogany, they dusted off a 19th-century federal law enacted to stop pimps from clambering aboard ships entering port.


Environmentalists call the charges a heavy-handed attempt to stifle free speech, and say the government is retaliating against Greenpeace for previous in-your-face protests against the Bush administration.

The federal government has never successfully prosecuted an entire activist organization on criminal charges over its protest methods -- not Operation Rescue, not the NAACP, not even the Ku Klux Klan.

"It's an incredible abuse of power, and this is nothing short of political retribution," said a Sierra Club spokesman, Eric Antebi. "We think this sets a horrible precedent for political intimidation of public-interest groups."

Environmentalists want a judge to throw out the indictment and release Justice Department records that may show why charges were brought under an 1872 law not used since the 1800s.

The judge is expected to rule early this year on the requests by Greenpeace, the Sierra Club, the American Civil Liberties Union, and other supporters.

Defending the prosecution in court last month, Assistant US Attorney Cameron Elliot said, "There is no evidence that the government has discriminated against Greenpeace because of its political views."

The mahogany protest occurred as the 965-foot APL Jade approached Miami Beach on April 12, 2002. Two Greenpeace protesters jumped aboard the ship more than 3 miles from shore, wearing shirts emblazoned with "Greenpeace illegal forest crime unit" and carrying a banner reading "President Bush, Stop Illegal Logging."

The ship's crew kept them from unfurling the banner.

Six activists were arrested on federal misdemeanor charges, and the indictment against the organization based on the old law came 15 months later.

The law was enacted to keep brothel operators from infiltrating ships "about to" dock. Pimps and others from brothels would row out to the vessels and persuade the sailors to jump ship with them or come over after docking.

The sailors were then wined, dined, and separated from their money.

One reason Greenpeace is fighting so hard is the potential punishment: a $20,000 fine and five years' probation, which could hinder the organization's use of civil disobedience as a protest tactic and could potentially open Greenpeace finances, operations, support, and membership to government inspection.

"For an advocacy organization dedicated to passionate dissent, that could be a crippling inhibition," the Natural Resources Defense Council said in a brief in support of Greenpeace.

The nonprofit Greenpeace also fears the government will revoke its tax-exempt status if it is convicted.

Greenpeace, perhaps best known for sailing its boats into restricted waters and interfering with whaling ships and other vessels on the open seas, has been bothersome to President Bush since shortly after his inauguration, when members put up a banner near his Texas ranch calling him the "toxic Texan."

Other groups are watching the case closely and say the charges run counter to the rich American tradition of civil disobedience as seen during the abolitionist, suffrage, civil rights, and antiwar movements.

"Greenpeace is an advocacy group. It is important that they be as free as possible to engage in their advocacy," said Floyd Abrams, a lawyer who specializes in the First Amendment. "The decision to indict Greenpeace seems to me to be constitutionally insensitive."

© Copyright 2004 Globe Newspaper Company.
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Old January-27th-2004, 09:12 PM   #2
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Oops. I voted to lock up the tree huggers before reading the article.

And I haven't read the article.

But after not reading the article, I'm going to have to go with my initial gut reaction.
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Old January-27th-2004, 10:41 PM   #3
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Figures.

Why don't you leave us all alone and move back to tree-LESS England, eh?





Go pollute the North Sea or something.
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Old January-27th-2004, 10:51 PM   #4
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Have you ever been abroad, Goody?
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Old January-27th-2004, 10:56 PM   #5
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Have you ever cared about the Environment?
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Old January-27th-2004, 11:54 PM   #6
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I married abroad.
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Old January-28th-2004, 12:43 AM   #7
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I was never a broad, though.


Uh...what was the question?
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Old January-28th-2004, 10:48 AM   #8
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Have you ever cared about the Environment?
Not enough to capitalize it.
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Old January-28th-2004, 11:21 AM   #9
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This one boggles the mind.

Using arcane laws to shut down freedom of speech and assembly by Ashcroft's thugs doesn't surprise me.
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Old January-28th-2004, 11:42 AM   #10
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Using arcane laws to shut down freedom of speech and assembly by Ashcroft's thugs doesn't surprise me.
Hell yeah! But where's Al Franken when you need him to tackle somebody to suppress free speech?
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Old January-28th-2004, 11:47 AM   #11
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Monte, once again you prove what a twit you really are. Everyone knows the Bush regime and all their goose stepping lackeys are free to say whatever they've been told to say. It's the free thinkers in this society that get shot down in the streets.

The man that heckled Dean was planted there by your little non elected creep and deserved to be silenced. You're just angry because now we're fighting back against the evil that has been suppressing us.

Sleep tight, Monte.









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Old January-28th-2004, 12:21 PM   #12
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Scott A, I just wish you were fat so that I could call you "fat ass" to your fat fucking face, you fat shit.
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Old January-28th-2004, 01:45 PM   #13
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You are so transparent, Monte.









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Old January-28th-2004, 02:28 PM   #14
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You are so transparent, Monte.
Actually, I am just very, very white.
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Old January-28th-2004, 02:35 PM   #15
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Actually, I am just very, very white.
You know, thats pretty funny. I suffer from the same genes. A friend of ours once told me that I was just a half shade darker than an albino(jokingly). She wasn't really that far off.
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Old January-28th-2004, 02:59 PM   #16
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Albino Nation.

Where's Superfly when you really need him?
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Old January-28th-2004, 03:28 PM   #17
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Re: US uses 1872 pimp law against activists

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...The law was enacted to keep brothel operators from infiltrating ships "about to" dock.
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The sailors were then wined, dined, and separated from their money.
I think they've missed another stage that occured/occurs close to the "separated from their money" one.
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Old January-28th-2004, 03:33 PM   #18
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Where's Superfly when you really need him?
Hate to break it to you, Tipster (and I don't know if it was previously posted here last week when the event occurred), but:

"Cleveland native Ron O'Neal, whose four-decade acting career went from the Karamu House stage to the mean streets to the mainstream, died late Wednesday in a Los Angeles hospital. He was 66.

O'Neal, best known for his pioneering role in the 1972 hit "Superfly," had been hospitalized at Cedars Sinai Medical Center, where he was treated for pancreatic cancer. He was diagnosed with the illness four years ago - and was given two months to live"
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Old January-28th-2004, 04:04 PM   #19
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Hmm, very interesting that he lived well past his doctors' prognostications, but I'm sorry to see such a young man go.

RIP, Superfly.

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