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Old March-31st-2004, 02:19 PM   #1
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Best Non-Jazz by a Jazz Musician

A companion to the "jazz by non-jazz musicians" thread:

Richard Davis' bass playing on Van Morrison's "Astral Weeks" album;

Dannie Richmond's drum solo on the song "The Phoenix" on the Mark-Almond Band's "Rising" album;

Wayne Shorter on Steely Dan's "Aja."
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Old March-31st-2004, 02:35 PM   #2
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Old April-8th-2004, 04:58 PM   #3
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Sarah Vaughan's "Lost Weekend" on Godley & Creme's three disc set, "Consequences."
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Old April-8th-2004, 05:25 PM   #4
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Igor Stravinsky's "Ebony Concerto" was done well by both Woody Herman (for whom it was written) and Benny Goodman.
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Old April-8th-2004, 05:26 PM   #5
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And MJQ's Connie Kay is also on "Astral Weeks." So is Jay Berliner on guitar and, though he is perhaps not a jazz musician, he also appears on Mingus' "The Black Saint and The Sinner Lady."

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Old April-8th-2004, 05:33 PM   #6
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And Mr. Goodman again, this time Bartok's Contrastes. (At least in France, EMI have a disc out "Bartok joue Bartok" selling at mid-to-low price that is very good - Bartok playing a selection of his Mikrokosmos makes up the remainder of the disc)
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Old April-12th-2004, 05:41 PM   #7
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Old April-13th-2004, 11:52 PM   #8
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What does that mean? Just what it says? And what does that say?
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Old April-15th-2004, 07:49 PM   #9
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Old April-15th-2004, 08:18 PM   #10
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Evan Parker and Steve Beresford on Vic Reeves' "I Will Cure You"

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Old April-15th-2004, 08:35 PM   #11
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'Sfar as I'm concerned, Astral Weeks is a purebred 100% jazz album, and that includes Morrison's vocals. It amuses that this has got such a rep as a rock album with a few jazzers on board.
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Old May-23rd-2004, 04:25 PM   #12
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...fast forward a little bit.
Vinnie Colaiuta on the Megadeth revival cd....hahah, I can't wait, I just can't see it.
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Old May-24th-2004, 08:09 PM   #13
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...OH, and how can i forget, Roy Hargroove w/ the RH Factor, Hard Groove.
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Old June-3rd-2004, 04:27 PM   #14
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...and I forgot Branford Marsalis jamming with the Grateful Dead on "Eyes of the World" (on the Without a Net album).
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Old July-22nd-2004, 12:23 PM   #15
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I've always thought Sonny Rollins' solo on the Stones' "Waiting for a Friend" was a great piece of pop musicianship, catchy and hummable. Certainly the saving grace of that song.

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Old July-22nd-2004, 12:39 PM   #16
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I like this Ornette Coleman things, You know.

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Ronnie Scott on the Beatles' "Lady Madonna"?

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Old July-23rd-2004, 01:49 PM   #18
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Old July-24th-2004, 03:04 AM   #19
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McLaughlin on "Flame - Sky" on Santana's "Welcome".

Tony Williams on Ray Manzarek's "Golden Scarab" (Larry Carlton, too)
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Tristan Honsinger on The Pop Group's "We Are All Prostitutes".

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Old August-15th-2004, 07:11 PM   #22
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I'll get my foot in the door with Jimmy Smith on Michael Jackson's 'Bad.' He's in the credits as playing organ, (surely Quincy could've hooked that up) and I suspect he may actually be the soloist on the title track.

That said, this thread brings a lot of irritating but pertinent questions to mind-- do these have to be instances of 'jazz' musicians making cameos on non-jazz records? To my ear, Dave Douglas 'Witness' isn't, for the most part, jazz. Dave's obviously got jazz chops and a history of playing jazz... so does that count? How about Javon Jackson or Charlie Haden playing with Egberto Gismonti? What about guys like Cuong Vu, Chris Speed, Jim Black etc... For me, it's hard to say when these guys are and aren't playing 'jazz', and there are those out there who would contend they never HAVE played jazz, and I'm not sure I'd disagree.
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Old August-15th-2004, 08:03 PM   #23
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I've always thought Sonny Rollins' solo on the Stones' "Waiting for a Friend" was a great piece of pop musicianship, catchy and hummable. Certainly the saving grace of that song.
Sonny also played on the tracks "Slave" and "Neighbors" which are also on the album Tattoo You.

Also, I'd like to add David Murray playing with the Dead in December of 1993 at MSG. I have a bootleg of the show, very impressive.
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Old August-16th-2004, 09:34 AM   #24
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Phil Woods on Billy Joel's NY State of Mind
And Phil Woods on Steely Dan's "Doctor Wu."

And Victor Feldman anywhere.
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Old August-16th-2004, 11:22 AM   #25
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Old August-16th-2004, 11:40 AM   #26
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And Victor Feldman anywhere.
Jason, I'm unfamiliar with Victor Feldman's non-jazz career. What does he appear on?
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Old August-16th-2004, 01:21 PM   #27
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Jason, I'm unfamiliar with Victor Feldman's non-jazz career. What does he appear on?
I was mainly referring to his session work with Steely Dan, Joni Mitchell, and the Doobies, but searching a 500+ album discography, I see sessions for Marvin Gaye, BB King, the Four Tops, Tom Waits, the Beach Boys, and many more.

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Old August-16th-2004, 01:30 PM   #28
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Wayne Shorter's soprano sax solo on Don Henley's End Of The Innocence.
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Mulgrew Miller and Terrence Blanchard on Jubilant Sykes' "Jubilant" CD.
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That said, this thread brings a lot of irritating but pertinent questions to mind-- do these have to be instances of 'jazz' musicians making cameos on non-jazz records? To my ear, Dave Douglas 'Witness' isn't, for the most part, jazz. Dave's obviously got jazz chops and a history of playing jazz... so does that count? How about Javon Jackson or Charlie Haden playing with Egberto Gismonti? What about guys like Cuong Vu, Chris Speed, Jim Black etc... For me, it's hard to say when these guys are and aren't playing 'jazz', and there are those out there who would contend they never HAVE played jazz, and I'm not sure I'd disagree.
Whether or not everyone concurs with those contentions is a whole other thread.
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