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View Poll Results: Which brass instrument do you prefer most?
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Trumpet.
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Trombone.
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April-12th-2004, 10:38 PM
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Next year....
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Trumpet or trombone?
OK.
The piano and guitar guys have had their fun...now howza 'bout some props for the brass players, eh?
I choose trumpet.
You?
Last edited by GoodSpeak; April-12th-2004 at 10:40 PM.
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April-12th-2004, 10:53 PM
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Love 'em both but the trumpet is my favorite instrument.
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April-12th-2004, 11:40 PM
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.....in jazz, trombone is usually played in a very sloppy fashion...i would have to go with trumpet.
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April-12th-2004, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JazzAt52ndStreet
in jazz, trombone is usually played in a very sloppy fashion
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April-13th-2004, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by JazzAt52ndStreet
in jazz, trombone is usually played in a very sloppy fashion
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April-13th-2004, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by JazzAt52ndStreet
in jazz, trombone is usually played in a very sloppy fashion
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April-13th-2004, 12:08 AM
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The instrument is irrelevant.
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April-13th-2004, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete C
The instrument is irrelevant.
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April-13th-2004, 12:15 AM
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lol.....i saw that comming.
....I know it has nothing to do with the instrument, it just happens to be how it is played by alot of musicians.
....of course, there are exceptions to that rule, and no, I dont own any of the records posted. But it would be tough to make an argument, that for the most part, trombone playing (whether it be intentional or not) is played in a sloppy fashion.
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April-13th-2004, 12:15 AM
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Michael, was that posted in agreement or disagreement with my assertion?
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April-13th-2004, 12:19 AM
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.....I dont see how he could be disagreing. Unless...maybe someone is whiseteling on the album or something.
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April-13th-2004, 12:23 AM
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April-13th-2004, 12:35 AM
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Once again, it depends on the context. My favorite trombone player has always been Trummy Young. However, I first caught him live with Louis Arm-
strong's All Stars. There's no way I can separate Trummy from the sound of that band--Louis, Trummy, Edmond Hall, Billy Kyle, Arvell Shaw, and Barrett Deems. At the same time, I happen to like Dizzy more than I do any other trumpet man. So, you win some, and you win another some!
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April-13th-2004, 12:43 AM
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I'm with Pete, for me it's all about the individual and what they bring to the instrument (after all the instruments don't play themselves). Although I play trombone I don't automatically like every trombone player I hear. In fact there are probably a lot more trumpet players I like than trombone players, but there are also probably a lot more trumpet players altogether.
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April-13th-2004, 12:56 AM
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Next year....
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April-13th-2004, 08:19 AM
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April-13th-2004, 08:40 AM
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What about Tubas and Euphoniums, French Horns etc. !!!???
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April-13th-2004, 08:54 AM
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Which Fowler brother was the 'bonist? I used to have a solo tape of his that was really good. Maybe I still have it; I'll have to hunt around. Anyway, I love any instrument that's played well. I'm glad that Mosaic was posted; fabulous album, and there's nothing you can say against Curtis Fuller. Overall, I'd rather hear a trumpet but for the sake of novelty, since trumpeters get more than their fair share of exposure here and elsewhere in the jazz world, I'd be interested in getting turned on to other fine trombonists.
I also dig flugelhorn, especially in someone like Tom Harrell's hands.
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April-13th-2004, 10:21 AM
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How I love robbin' banks!
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From Teagarden and Tricky Sam Nanton to Steve Turre and Robin Eubanks, I prefer 'bone -- on average (plenty of exceptions) it's got more soul!
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April-13th-2004, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by JazzAt52ndStreet
.....in jazz, trombone is usually played in a very sloppy fashion...i would have to go with trumpet.
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That's the most ill informed, unsubstantiated, clueless, and frankly, stupid notion I've seen posted on a music board here in quite a while.
I'll end with 3 words... JAY JAY JOHNSON [learn them before you type next time]
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April-13th-2004, 10:43 AM
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I've noticed on a couple of recent threads that JazzAt52ndStreet is wont to make very ludicrous, global pronouncements.
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April-13th-2004, 11:21 AM
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Impossible to decide
Louis Armstrong or Jack Teagarden?
Bunny Berigan or Vic Dickenson?
Dizzy Gillespie or JJ Johnson?
Clifford Brown or Curtis Fuller?
Shorty Rogers or Bob Brookmeyer?
Can't do it. But why?
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April-13th-2004, 01:39 PM
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I chose the trumpet because if someone were to play the same note on every instrument I've ever heard in my life the trumpet would sound the most appealing. However, there are oodles of trombone players I love.
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April-13th-2004, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JazzAt52ndStreet
.....in jazz, trombone is usually played in a very sloppy fashion...i would have to go with trumpet.
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what kind of SLOPPY remark is that? I have no idea what you mean by sloppy, but you certainly make it sound derogatory, and on behalf of all the FINE trombonists in Jazz, I resent that remark.
JJ Johnson was sloppy? Robin Eubanks is sloppy? Steve Turre is sloppy? Slide Hampton, Douglas Purviance, Curtis Fuller, Benny Powell, Dr. Billy Howell, Wycliffe Gordon, Conrad Herwig, Bill Hughes, Clarence Banks??????
Explain yourself, please!!!  
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April-13th-2004, 02:32 PM
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I chose trombone.
While I love the trumpet, there's something about a great trombone solo that just sends me.
Off the top of my head:
The end of "Homage to Charlie Parker", by the great George Lewis, for starters.
Robin Eubanks has a beautiful solo on "Empty Suits" which makes me swoon. JJ Johnson's fabulous solo on Miles Davis' "Walkin" (one of many fine solos on that track).
George Lewis again, following Braxton's amazing solo on Dortmund with one equally transcendent.
Practically anytime Ray Anderson raises the horn to his lips...I could go on and on.
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April-13th-2004, 03:38 PM
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April-13th-2004, 03:43 PM
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April-13th-2004, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodSpeak
OK.
The piano and guitar guys have had their fun...now howza 'bout some props for the brass players, eh?
I choose trumpet.
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Who is the better hero? Superman or Captain America?
In what percentage of all records do trombone players get sloppy?
There are some truly idiotic questions posed here and even more moronic pronouncements about better & worse/trombone sloppiness. To be fair, many cool posts here disagreeing with ludicrous assertions.
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April-13th-2004, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by hornplayer
JJ Johnson was sloppy? Robin Eubanks is sloppy? Steve Turre is sloppy? Slide Hampton, Douglas Purviance, Curtis Fuller, Benny Powell, Dr. Billy Howell, Wycliffe Gordon, Conrad Herwig, Bill Hughes, Clarence Banks??????
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If Brookmeyer were here, he'd tell us which ones were sloppy and which ones weren't. ;-)
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April-13th-2004, 04:15 PM
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Im not saying they are bad players, the way the instrument is played i dont particularly enjoy.
Maybe a better term to replace sloppy would be "overly raunchy for my taste".
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