rhythm changes question

[digital]

we all know of standards based on rhythm changes.
but now I'm looking for standards who use only the A part of rhythm or only the B part of rhythm .
anyone can help me with this strange question ?
Thanks.

[digital]

the bridge of caravan is kind of the same harmony as the rhythm bridge.
this is what I'm looking for.

[Pete C]

Scrapple from the Apple. The A section is Honeysuckle Rose.

[graypencil]

If you double the bar lengths of the bridge changes ( four bars per chord change as opposed to two) ..

you essentially have the changes of Sweet Ga Brown (minus the turnarounds )

[Pete C]

According to this Fats Navarro discography, both "Good Bait" and "Webb City" have a "Rhythm" A section with a different bridge.

http://csis.pace.edu/~varden/navarro/discog.html

[bluenoter]

Originally Posted by Pete C

According to this Fats Navarro discography, both "Good Bait" and "Webb City" have a "Rhythm" A section with a different bridge.

http://csis.pace.edu/~varden/navarro/discog.html

Is that what Digital is talking about--the changes to "I Got Rhythm"? If not, what's a "rhythm change"?

[cookie]

"Cloudburst" uses Rhythm changes for the A sections, but has a different bridge.

[graypencil]

" Good Bait"s Bridge section is the same thing as A..up a fourth ..

[bluenoter]

Originally Posted by bluenoter

Is that what Digital is talking about--the changes to "I Got Rhythm"? If not, what's a "rhythm change"?

Yo, don't all answer me at once!

[graypencil]

Originally Posted by bluenoter

Yo, don't all answer me at once!

the plural "CHANGES" makes a big difference:

rhy. changeS = the chord changes of I got Riddum ..

these same changes are the basis for many contrafacts that have been created on the chordal scheme ( I know what the next question is gonna be.. )

a rhythm CHANGE would be segueing from a Strauss waltz to a Boogaloo ...

[bluenoter]

Originally Posted by graypencil

( I know what the next question is gonna be.. )

The next question is gonna be, "How come you didn't just say yes?" But seriously, thanks, GP. It amazes me that everyone who posted knew that, even though "rhythm" wasn't capitalized.

[Pete C]

Originally Posted by bluenoter

It amazes me that everyone who posted knew that, even though "rhythm" wasn't capitalized.

Nothing was capitalized except A, B, and Thanks!

[iris]

I guess I'm confused by the question. Are you looking for standards that consist only of the first 8 bars of a rhythm changes and have no other sections (just an A that repeats over and over)? Or a standard that consists of the first 8 bars of rhythm changes and has another section that is not the bridge of a rhythm section but something else.
Same question for the B section.
thanks

[graypencil]

Originally Posted by iris

I guess I'm confused by the question. Are you looking for standards that consist only of the first 8 bars of a rhythm changes and have no other sections (just an A that repeats over and over)? Or a standard that consists of the first 8 bars of rhythm changes and has another section that is not the bridge of a rhythm section but something else.
Same question for the B section.
thanks

that would be an affirmative on both ...

[Pete C]

I assumed he's looking for an AABA form where either A or B, but not both, is Rhythm.

[Bruce Lindfield]

Originally Posted by graypencil

the plural "CHANGES" makes a big difference:

rhy. changeS = the chord changes of I got Riddum ..

these same changes are the basis for many contrafacts that have been created on the chordal scheme ...

What's a "contrafact" !!!??

Is that a euphemism for something like the theme tune to "The Flintstones" ?

[graypencil]

Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield

What's a "contrafact" !!!??

Is that a euphemism for something like the theme tune to "The Flintstones" ?

THAT was the "next question" I expected


a contrafact is an original melody constructed over the chord changes of an existing standard melody..

[bluenoter]

Hey, are you gonna believe GP, a mere musician? I happen to know that a "contrafact" is

either

-- a true statement about a form of British folk dancing,

or

--a lie.

[mscv]

The bridge to "Bernies Tune" (oddly by Bernie Miller) bears resemblence to Rhythm Changes' A section

[graypencil]

Originally Posted by mscv

The bridge to "Bernies Tune" (oddly by Bernie Miller) bears resemblence to Rhythm Changes' A section

the first four bars do ( Bb: 1/6/2/5 and repeat )

but the second four are differing a bit to get back to the minor A section )

(Bb: 1/6/2/5/ ! /1 /7dom /7dom=5 dom. of D minor )

[JazzAt52ndStreet]

....I think he means a song where the form is just the first four bars because the B section is tougher to solo over.....If that's the case there is no shame in just soloing over the A section.

-52nd

[tippy]

Originally Posted by bluenoter

Hey, are you gonna believe GP, a mere musician? I happen to know that a "contrafact" is

either

-- a true statement about a form of British folk dancing,

or

--a lie.

contra=against, fact=something that already exists; hence, musically, playing something new or different against (texturally) something that already exists