Romeo And Juliet

JazzAt52ndStreet · May-1st-2004, 10:11 PM

In romeo and juliet scene 1 act 4. Romeo and Rosaline both have a dreams, what might theese dreams be about? (In a slightly more modern day enligsh then the book is written in,

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-52nd

GoodSpeak · May-2nd-2004, 01:53 AM

I hate that play.

Of all the works of Shakespeare, this is his absolute worst.

In fact, it was a rip-off of a previous author's poem...almost word for word.

GoodSpeak · May-2nd-2004, 01:53 AM

Ack

alankin · May-2nd-2004, 03:36 PM

The Tiny Ninja Theatre version was pretty memorable.

alankin · May-2nd-2004, 03:37 PM

Bill Sh. stole it from "West Side Story."

tippy · May-2nd-2004, 04:23 PM

West Side Story is awesome. Also love the ballet. I'm pretty sure Romeo & Juliet was my intro to Shakespeare in 9th grade. I think I liked Caesar best probably for being most accessible to my brain. Hamlet and MacBeth were beyond my comprehension at the time. Though I loved L. MacBeth's Out damned spot soliloquy attaching all my hidden sins to it. Once I had amnesia for a half a day (from blunt force to the back of my head), I came to while I was on the phone with my mother asking her what day it was, but I remember my dream while I was in this weird semi-conscious but not my recognizable conscious state and I had reinvented my life to a sinless state so maybe that's what they were dreaming about.

Huh?

bluenoter · May-2nd-2004, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JazzAt52ndStreet

In romeo and juliet scene 1 act 4. Romeo and Rosaline both have a dreams, what might theese dreams be about? (In a slightly more modern day enligsh then the book is written in,

)

Who the hell is Rosaline? Might you be talking about Scene 4 of Act 1, in which Romeo and Mercutio report that they'd had dreams and Mercutio "talks of dreams"?

http://wikibooks.org/wiki/Romeo_and_...e_4_-_A_street

(Scene 1 of Act 4 has only Paris, Juliet, and Friar Laurence.)

JazzAt52ndStreet · May-2nd-2004, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bluenoter

Who the hell is Rosaline? Might you be talking about Scene 4 of Act I, in which Romeo and Mercutio report that they'd had dreams and Mercutio "talks of dreams"?

http://wikibooks.org/wiki/Romeo_and_...e_4_-_A_street

(Scene 1 of Act 4 has only Paris, Juliet, and Friar Laurence.)

Yea.....thats the one. .....I dun get it.

-52nd

moneyp · May-2nd-2004, 08:15 PM

They were all dreamin' of banging Juliet. Romeo, Mercutio, Rosalind, Henry V, Hamlet, the whole bloody lot of them. Buncha perverts.

RBS · May-2nd-2004, 10:18 PM

This is a classic speech -- the "Queen Mab" speech by Mercutio.

Mercutio is busting Romeo's cojones because he's having horny little wet dreams.

moneyp · May-2nd-2004, 10:35 PM

It is a great speech. I thought the dude in Baz Luhrman's film nailed it totally.

Tom Storer · May-3rd-2004, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JazzAt52ndStreet

In romeo and juliet scene 1 act 4. Romeo and Rosaline both have a dreams, what might theese dreams be about? (In a slightly more modern day enligsh then the book is written in,

)

52, it isn't Romeo and Rosaline who have dreams, it's Romeo and Mercutio. See, Romeo is moping about this chick Rosaline whom he's in love with but who dropped him. Mercutio and some other dudes are taking him to a party that Rosaline's at, so he can check her out in comparison with other pretty girls. They think he should get over her and stop moping. Romeo says he dreamed it wasn't a great idea to go this party, so Mercutio says he had a dream, too, and describes a wild dream about Mab, the Fairy Queen. Romeo says to stop talking nonsense and Mercutio says, "That's right - dreams are nonsense." In other words, Romeo's dream that going to the party isn't a good idea is also nonsense.

And then at the party Romeo sees Juliet, and that's that for Rosaline.

You should get an annotated version!

Pete C · May-3rd-2004, 10:22 AM

Hit it, boys!

Just Like Romeo and Juliet
The Reflections

[Written by Freddie Gorman and Bob Hamilton]

(Ooh-ooh-oop)

Findin' a job tomorrow mornin'
Got a little somethin' I wanna do
Gonna buy (gonna buy) somethin' I could ride in
A-Take my girl (take my girl) datin' at the drive-in
Our love's gonna be written down in history
A-Just like Romeo and Juliet

I'm gonna buy her pretty presents
Just like the ones in a catalog
Gonna show (gonna show) how much I love
Let her know (let her know) one way or the other
Our love's gonna be written down in history
A-Just like Romeo and Juliet

(Ooh-ooh-oop)
(Dooo, doot, doot, doot, doot, doot, doot, doo-doop)

Just Like Romeo and Juliet
Just Like Romeo and Juliet
Just Like Romeo and Juliet
Just Like Romeo and Juliet

Talk about love and romance
Just wait 'til I get myself straight
I'm gonna put Romeo's fame
Right smack-dab on a date

Ah, all right, now, I'm speculatin'
Wonder what tomorrow's gonna really bring
If I don't (if I don't) find work tomorrow
It's gonna be (gonna be) heartaches 'n' sorrow
Our love's gonna be destroyed like a tragedy
Just like Romeo and Juliet

(Ooh-ooh-oop)
(Dooo, doot, doot, doot, doot, doot, doot, doo-doop)

Just like Romeo and Juliet
A-Just like Romeo and Juliet
A-Just like Romeo and Juliet
(Just like Romeo and Juliet)
(Just like Romeo and Juliet)
(Just like Romeo and Juliet)
(Just like Romeo and Juliet)

bluenoter · May-3rd-2004, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by bluenoter

Who the hell is Rosaline?

52nd--

My apologies! As Tom mentioned, there is a Rosaline; I didn't remember her.

clinthopson · May-3rd-2004, 11:23 AM

I have always liked "Timon of Athens."

Chris D · May-3rd-2004, 02:26 PM

A lovestruck Romeo sings the streets a serenade
Laying everybody low with a love song that he made
Finds a convenient streetlight, steps out of the shade
says something like, "You and me, babe, how 'bout it?"

Juliet says, "Hey, it's Romeo. You nearly gave me a heart attack."
He's underneath the window. She's singing, "Hey, la, my boyfriend's back"
You shouldn't come around here, singing up at people like that
Anyway, what you gonna do about it?

Juliet, the dice were loaded from the start
and I bet and you exploded in my heart
and I forget, I forget the movie song
when you gonna realize it was just that the time was wrong, Juliet?

Come up on different streets, they both were streets of shame
Both dirty, both mean, yes, and the dream was just the same
and I dream your dream for you and now your dream is real
How can you look at me as if I was just another one of your deals?

Well, you can fall for chains of silver. You can fall for chains of gold
You can fall for pretty strangers and the promises they hold
You promised me everything; you promised me thick and thin
Now you just say, "Oh, Romeo, yeah, you know I used to have a scene with him."

Juliet, when we made love you used to cry
you said I love you like the stars above I'll love you till I die
there's a place for us, you know the movie song
When you gonna realize it was just that the time was wrong, Juliet?

I can't do the talk like the talk on the TV
and I can't do a love song like the way it's meant to be
I can't do everything but I'd do anything for you
can't do anything except be in love with you

and all I do is miss you and the way we used to be
all I do is keep the beat, to bad company
all I do is kiss you through the bars of Orion
Julie, I'd do the stars with you any time

Juliet, when we made love you used to cry
you said I love you like the stars above Ill love you till I die
there's a place for us, you know the movie song
when you gonna realize it was just that the time was wrong?

a lovestruck romeo sings the streets a serenade
laying everybody low with a love song that he made
finds a convenient streetlight, steps out of the shade
says something like "You and me, babe, how about it?"

Squaredancecalling Steve · May-3rd-2004, 03:20 PM

Mercutio is one of Shakespeare's great personalities, passionate and raw, and most brilliantly showcased in his death speech. Act 3, scene 1. ('A plague on both your houses' and, of his fatal wound, ''Tis not so deep as a well nor so wide as a church door, but 'tis enough.')

Romeo is the great romantic, full sighs and poetry and idealized love. His buddy Mercutio is the anti-romantic, cynical, wary of the violence and ugliness of things lurking just below the pretty surfaces. Mercutio doesn't dare deliver his 'it's sex-not-love' speech to Romeo directly, so we see it Act 2 scene 1, where he is speaking with Benvolio.

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Goody: Romeo and Juliet was indeed derived from another source. So was Merchant of Venice. So was Othello. So were all the histories. That was the way he worked. The plays that aren't traceable to a single source can be tracked down to two or three sources that were stitched together.
It wasn't until his final period -- the four Romances -- that Shakespeare concerned himself with stories, as well as character and poetry.