Fundrace.org

lynn · May-20th-2004, 10:43 AM

OK, now you can really follow the money.

http://www.fundrace.org/

related article in the NY Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/20/te...20dona.html?th

Monte Smith · May-20th-2004, 10:47 AM

Yup, Lynn. Fundrace is an excellent site. I posted about it during the 2003 elections. It only records money contributions made to the campaigns, though, and not parallel fundraising efforts like MoveOn.org.

May-20th-2004, 10:56 AM

How will all those poor liberals be able to keep up with the ultra rich Republicans?

Monte Smith · May-20th-2004, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Dolan

How will all those poor liberals be able to keep up with the ultra rich Republicans?

As you probably know, Scott, the "ultra rich Republicans" versus the "common man Dem" is not a fiction that can withstand scrutiny. The website Lynn has linked will show that enormous givers are far more numerous in the Dem campaigns. Republicans tend to get more numerous smaller contributions.

May-20th-2004, 04:54 PM

B-b-but Lynn TOLD me once that it's a wonder that poor dems even stand a chance against the corporate fat cat Republicans. Because they simply cannot compete monetarily. Are you trying to tell me that this isn't true?

ARE YOU????!!!

Y-you evil little warmonger.

LIES!!!!!!

lynn · May-20th-2004, 05:33 PM

Well, it is an interesting site.

There was also a recent article in wthe washington post regarding the influence republican fundraisers exhibit on Bush's policies toward the environment and trade.

May-20th-2004, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lynn

There was also a recent article in wthe washington post regarding the influence republican fundraisers exhibit on Bush's policies toward the environment and trade.

This is just an OUTRAGEOUS precedent!!!!

Golly, these dirty Republicans never cease to amaze me.

Great find, Lynn. Please keep us updated.

chuckyd4 · May-21st-2004, 09:33 AM

I've always like opensecrets.org as well. I even used it to find out some really icky things about my local congressman. I recommend everyone here go there and at least figure out who your congressman is, if not who is paying to keep him/her in office.

bostontricky · May-21st-2004, 09:44 AM

You can search Fundrace by zip code. I see someone in mine gave $400 to Carol Mosley Braun. Must be something in the water.

walto · May-21st-2004, 09:47 AM

Damn it. BT--read your private messages!!

bostontricky · May-21st-2004, 09:53 AM

Scott - can you explain the disparities in contributions to Bush and Kerry detailed here?

Bush has raised more money than Kerry in 48 states; Kerry has raised more in Massachusetts, Rhode Island and D.C.

I expect the popular vote for Kerry in Mass. and R.I. will parallel his fundraising margin - about two to one.

Then why isn't Bush going to win Texas by a 12 to 1 margin?

May-21st-2004, 11:33 AM

What do you mean by "explain the disparities"?

bostontricky · May-21st-2004, 11:42 AM

Why is the percentage of money Bush is getting vastly higher than his likely percentage of the popular vote this fall?

May-21st-2004, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bostontricky

Why is the percentage of money Bush is getting vastly higher than his likely percentage of the popular vote this fall?

Well, I'm sure that Monte would be your man for this question since this is truly the first election that I have ever followed closely.

But, I'll give it a go.

1. Kerry hasn't even officially received the nomination yet.

2. The democratic party has been spreading it's money all over the place due to the tight race that was going on a few months ago. Whereas the Republican party already knew who their guy was going to be. I'm sure Kerry's dollars will start flowing mightily.

3. He hasn't even hinted at a running mate yet.

Hey, I could be completely wrong. But all of those things make sense to me. Once he receives the nod, chooses a running mate, and everyone knows whats what, those figures will balance out.

chuckyd4 · May-21st-2004, 12:56 PM

I also could be completely wrong, but as far as I had heard it was pretty common knowledge that the Kerry campaign isn't ever going to raise as much as Bush, by a pretty significant margin. Also, it's pretty clear he is the nominee, so I don't see why any potential donors would be holding back now to wait and make sure it's official.

May-21st-2004, 01:16 PM

I'm always wary of "common knowledge". It's just another way of saying "I don't really know if thats true, but you agree with that, right"? *wink wink*

And yes Chucky, it IS "pretty clear" that he's the nominee. I wasn't contesting that. But do you just start signing checks with lots of zeros on them because you're pretty sure about something?

bostontricky · May-21st-2004, 08:58 PM

Funny if you start to look around. Cambridge 02138 is the ZIP code for the area around Harvard Square, seems to be pretty active.

A fair amount of Kerry's neighbors on Louisberg Square in Boston (02108) have coughed up money for Bush. In fact, the wife of the CEO for Staples is listed as contributing $2,000 and also another $1,000. Is this a no-no?

May-21st-2004, 09:46 PM

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A fair amount of Kerry's neighbors on Louisberg Square in Boston (02108) have coughed up money for Bush. In fact, the wife of the CEO for Staples is listed as contributing $2,000 and also another $1,000. Is this a no-no?

Hmmmm, I'd say that's a bad sign when even your own neighbors won't support you.

Could this be early signs of a landslide?

tippy · May-21st-2004, 09:57 PM

Wow, that zip code search is phenomenal. I wouldn't want someone to know how much and to whom I was making donations (and where I lived!) but it's certainly interesting.

Bush 25,750
Kerry 7,025
Edwards 2,000
Dean 1,600
Kucinich 300
Clark 250

tippy · May-21st-2004, 10:00 PM

Karl Malone, hahahaha, formerly of the Utah Jazz, 2,000 to Bush! What a dork.

tippy · May-21st-2004, 10:07 PM

Hella homemakers and students layin down some serious dinero for the Bushster. Is the max contribution one can make $2K?

bostontricky · May-21st-2004, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Dolan

Hmmmm, I'd say that's a bad sign when even your own neighbors won't support you.

Naah, they're probably still pissed that he got that fire hydrant moved. BTW, you gotta drop some pretty serious coin to get lodging on Kerry's block.

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Originally Posted by tippy

Wow, that zip code search is phenomenal. I wouldn't want someone to know how much and to whom I was making donations (and where I lived!) but it's certainly interesting.

I don't think anyone in my ZIP has coughed up anything for Bush...yet. It's not gonna be me, but you knew that already...

May-21st-2004, 11:43 PM

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Naah, they're probably still pissed that he got that fire hydrant moved.

AHA!!! So he shows a lack of concern for the safety of his neighbors, does he?

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BTW, you gotta drop some pretty serious coin to get lodging on Kerry's block.

Oh, without question. But unfortunately, there aren't many politicians that you couldn't say this about. The have vs. the have nots indeed.

bostontricky · May-22nd-2004, 12:14 AM

No - serious, serious coin. Houses on Louisburg Square are assessed in the four to six million dollar range; I'm too tired to check actual selling prices right now...

May-22nd-2004, 12:25 AM

No, I hear you brother.

But think about it. John Edwards has something like a $3million dollar home. Then you have Dr. Dean, Bush Jr. son of an oil tycoon, the Kennedy's, and so on............

These folks do not live in squalor, you know what I mean?

I don't begrudge any of them what they have, but lets face it, we're not dealing with "the common man" in any of these cases.

lynn · May-22nd-2004, 08:26 PM

Oh I don't know. You can find a GW in every bar and AA meeting in Texas. Pretty common really.