May-26th-2004, 08:22 PM
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In the shadow of the 7
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NYT mea culpa for enabling Iraq war scam
Sorry for pulling a Chris A here, but I was fascinated to see this rather remarkable article in today's Times, and to see an outlet of the mainstream media finally talk about their role in uncritically spreading the falsehoods that got us into this foolish and unwinnable war. So somebody in the media at last admits, however, sheepishly, that they were tools of the Chalabi scam and the use of it by Bush, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, et. al. as the "factual" basis for what was, in reality, their own bizarre ideological quest. A quest that has cost several thousand human lives.
New York Times
May 26, 2004
From the Editors
The Times and Iraq
Over the last year this newspaper has shone the bright
light of hindsight on decisions that led the United States
into Iraq. We have examined the failings of American and
allied intelligence, especially on the issue of Iraq's
weapons and possible Iraqi connections to international
terrorists. We have studied the allegations of official
gullibility and hype. It is past time we turned the same
light on ourselves.
In doing so - reviewing hundreds of articles written during
the prelude to war and into the early stages of the
occupation - we found an enormous amount of journalism that
we are proud of. In most cases, what we reported was an
accurate reflection of the state of our knowledge at the
time, much of it painstakingly extracted from intelligence
agencies that were themselves dependent on sketchy
information. And where those articles included incomplete
information or pointed in a wrong direction, they were
later overtaken by more and stronger information. That is
how news coverage normally unfolds.
But we have found a number of instances of coverage that
was not as rigorous as it should have been. In some cases,
information that was controversial then, and seems
questionable now, was insufficiently qualified or allowed
to stand unchallenged. Looking back, we wish we had been
more aggressive in re-examining the claims as new evidence
emerged - or failed to emerge.
The problematic articles varied in authorship and subject
matter, but many shared a common feature. They depended at
least in part on information from a circle of Iraqi
informants, defectors and exiles bent on "regime change" in
Iraq, people whose credibility has come under increasing
public debate in recent weeks. (The most prominent of the
anti-Saddam campaigners, Ahmad Chalabi, has been named as
an occasional source in Times articles since at least 1991,
and has introduced reporters to other exiles. He became a
favorite of hard-liners within the Bush administration and
a paid broker of information from Iraqi exiles, until his
payments were cut off last week.) Complicating matters for
journalists, the accounts of these exiles were often
eagerly confirmed by United States officials convinced of
the need to intervene in Iraq. Administration officials now
acknowledge that they sometimes fell for misinformation
from these exile sources. So did many news organizations -
in particular, this one.
Some critics of our coverage during that time have focused
blame on individual reporters. Our examination, however,
indicates that the problem was more complicated. Editors at
several levels who should have been challenging reporters
and pressing for more skepticism were perhaps too intent on
rushing scoops into the paper. Accounts of Iraqi defectors
were not always weighed against their strong desire to have
Saddam Hussein ousted. Articles based on dire claims about
Iraq tended to get prominent display, while follow-up
articles that called the original ones into question were
sometimes buried. In some cases, there was no follow-up at
all.
On Oct. 26 and Nov. 8, 2001, for example, Page 1 articles
cited Iraqi defectors who described a secret Iraqi camp
where Islamic terrorists were trained and biological
weapons produced. These accounts have never been
independently verified.
On Dec. 20, 2001, another front-page article began, "An
Iraqi defector who described himself as a civil engineer
said he personally worked on renovations of secret
facilities for biological, chemical and nuclear weapons in
underground wells, private villas and under the Saddam
Hussein Hospital in Baghdad as recently as a year ago."
Knight Ridder Newspapers reported last week that American
officials took that defector - his name is Adnan Ihsan
Saeed al-Haideri - to Iraq earlier this year to point out
the sites where he claimed to have worked, and that the
officials failed to find evidence of their use for weapons
programs. It is still possible that chemical or biological
weapons will be unearthed in Iraq, but in this case it
looks as if we, along with the administration, were taken
in. And until now we have not reported that to our readers.
On Sept. 8, 2002, the lead article of the paper was
headlined "U.S. Says Hussein Intensified Quest for A-Bomb
Parts." That report concerned the aluminum tubes that the
administration advertised insistently as components for the
manufacture of nuclear weapons fuel. The claim came not
from defectors but from the best American intelligence
sources available at the time. Still, it should have been
presented more cautiously. There were hints that the
usefulness of the tubes in making nuclear fuel was not a
sure thing, but the hints were buried deep, 1,700 words
into a 3,600-word article. Administration officials were
allowed to hold forth at length on why this evidence of
Iraq's nuclear intentions demanded that Saddam Hussein be
dislodged from power: "The first sign of a `smoking gun,'
they argue, may be a mushroom cloud."
Five days later, The Times reporters learned that the tubes
were in fact a subject of debate among intelligence
agencies. The misgivings appeared deep in an article on
Page A13, under a headline that gave no inkling that we
were revising our earlier view ("White House Lists Iraq
Steps to Build Banned Weapons"). The Times gave voice to
skeptics of the tubes on Jan. 9, when the key piece of
evidence was challenged by the International Atomic Energy
Agency. That challenge was reported on Page A10; it might
well have belonged on Page A1.
On April 21, 2003, as American weapons-hunters followed
American troops into Iraq, another front-page article
declared, "Illicit Arms Kept Till Eve of War, an Iraqi
Scientist Is Said to Assert." It began this way: "A
scientist who claims to have worked in Iraq's chemical
weapons program for more than a decade has told an American
military team that Iraq destroyed chemical weapons and
biological warfare equipment only days before the war
began, members of the team said."
The informant also claimed that Iraq had sent
unconventional weapons to Syria and had been cooperating
with Al Qaeda - two claims that were then, and remain,
highly controversial. But the tone of the article suggested
that this Iraqi "scientist" - who in a later article
described himself as an official of military intelligence -
had provided the justification the Americans had been
seeking for the invasion.
The Times never followed up on the veracity of this source
or the attempts to verify his claims.
A sample of the coverage, including the articles mentioned
here, is online at nytimes.com/critique. Readers will also
find there a detailed discussion written for The New York
Review of Books last month by Michael Gordon, military
affairs correspondent of The Times, about the aluminum
tubes report. Responding to the review's critique of Iraq
coverage, his statement could serve as a primer on the
complexities of such intelligence reporting.
We consider the story of Iraq's weapons, and of the pattern
of misinformation, to be unfinished business. And we fully
intend to continue aggressive reporting aimed at setting
the record straight.
Last edited by Al in NYC; May-26th-2004 at 08:23 PM.
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May-26th-2004, 10:18 PM
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holier than thou
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Isn't this the same crap the Bush administration is spinning? It sounds equally disingenuous coming from the NY Times, IMHO.
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May-30th-2004, 09:22 AM
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Unflappable
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Excellent and balanced, imho, analysis of NYT misdeeds and failures of accountability by Public Editor Dan Okrent in today's paper.
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May-30th-2004, 09:34 AM
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10 Day Disabled List
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My hunch is that the newspaper based its stance on the very reasons that the administration willfully lied about. Kerry the same. WMD, ties to Al Queda, America in imminent danger - all total bullshit.
When this war started I had the usual reservations about war but certainly had no love for Saddam...thus I was really undecided about all this AT THE BEGINNING. It was only after TRUTH was revealed that I was able to oppose the Iraq action with such vehemence and outrage. The American public was no less than intentionally duped and I will never forgive the Bush administration for its lies, obfuscation and utter arrogance.
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June-1st-2004, 10:10 AM
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The Bluegrass
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I had never seen anything like it in the Times before, but would have been much more impressed with them had they printed their guilty plea on page A-1 instead of (ironically, given its content) A-10.
By the way, according to Bob Woodward's book -- as responsible a journalist as there is in the US -- the decision to invade Iraq had already been made, and ordered, by Bush, long before any public debate or rationale had even been offered. Tommy Franks -- to his very angry astonishment -- was ordered to construct the invasion plan while he was still in the midst of the (then undetermined) combat in Afghanistan, autumn of *2001.*
The simple fact is that the decision to invade and the order to invade, as I'd long assumed, had already happened, in advance of any public debate or proffered rationale. Hence the constant shifting of rationales and also hence their absolute irrelevance, to anyone who had any power to alter anything at all -- Congress included. As I've said all along, it was an intentional act of agression on the part of the US: a personal war in search of a political rationale (which was never found, or even needed, in fact, since it had already been ordered by the C-in-C, regardless).
All show biz.
Last edited by Rainman; June-1st-2004 at 10:14 AM.
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June-1st-2004, 12:34 PM
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One of my favorite tricks done during the lead up to the war was the Administration planting a story in the NY Times and then having Cheney refer to the same story later in the week on Meet the Press as confirmation for one of his accusations.
Congress, the media and the American people got played like a violin. Using 9/11 like a club, the hawks in the Administrationgot what they wanted all along, a war against Iraq.
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June-4th-2004, 08:52 AM
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The Bluegrass
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Yep, they got what they wanted, alright. And now they don't want it and don't know how to get rid of it.
It's always easier to unleash the war dogs than it is to leash them again. The decision to invade could be made easily enough in the White House, but the decision about when to stop fighting lies with the Iraqi resistance (and the Afghani)(and the Pakistani) (and ?).
Sheer brilliance, once again. Intentionally stepping in dog shit and then being surprised by the fact that it stinks and is hard to scrape off your shoes. Dipshits.
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June-4th-2004, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Rainman
The simple fact is that the decision to invade and the order to invade, as I'd long assumed, had already happened, in advance of any public debate or proffered rationale. Hence the constant shifting of rationales and also hence their absolute irrelevance, to anyone who had any power to alter anything at all -- Congress included. As I've said all along, it was an intentional act of agression on the part of the US: a personal war in search of a political rationale (which was never found, or even needed, in fact, since it had already been ordered by the C-in-C, regardless).
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Mega dittos!!! That few people in the media or the goverment would state such an obvious fact is a scandle in and of itself.
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