June-14th-2004, 03:50 AM
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Top Ten Non-American Jazz Artist
This should be a treat! Here are mine:
1. Antonio Carlos Jobim
2. Toots Thielemens
3. Flora Purim
4. Miroslav Vitous
5. Bobby Jasper
6. Tete Montilou
7. Sun Ra
8. Joe Zawinul
9. Hugh Masekela
10. Airto
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June-14th-2004, 07:54 AM
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Tomasz Stanko
Evan Parker
Kenny Wheeler
Django Reinhardt
Rabih Abou-Khalil
Dave Holland
Anouar Brahem
John Surman
Bobo Stenson
Krzystof Komeda
And a special mention to the Ganelin Trio
Last edited by john williams; June-14th-2004 at 07:56 AM.
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June-14th-2004, 08:22 AM
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Reevaluating @ 500k
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Harbinger, if you respect the artists you should spell their names properly.
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June-14th-2004, 10:27 AM
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with a twist
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Paul Bley
Peter Brotzmann
Abdullah Ibrahim
Dave Holland
Tony Oxley
Django Reinhardt
Alex von Schlippenbach
Irene Schweizer
Tomasz Stanko
Evan Parker
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June-14th-2004, 02:10 PM
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Registered Useless
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A. von Schlippenbach
Louis Moholo
Evan Parker
Tony Oxley
Mike Osborne
Chris MacGregor
Peter Kowald
Johnny Dyani
Han Bennink (on a good day)
Vladimir Chekasin
(too many of these guys are either dead or retired...)
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June-14th-2004, 03:51 PM
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Kills all threads!
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Originally Posted by jazzharbinger07
7. Sun Ra
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"The challenge of creative music has never been more important than in periods of profound unrest and realignment."--Anthony Braxton
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June-14th-2004, 03:55 PM
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Lines Burnt In Light
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Derek Bailey
Evan Parker
Peter Brotzmann
Hamid Drake
Paul Dunmall
Elton Dean
Django Reinhardt
Tony Oxley
John Stevens
Keith Tippett
Mongezi Feza is an honourable meantion.
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June-14th-2004, 03:56 PM
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Good call, Rob. I didn't even notice that until you pointed it out.
Hilarious!!
The only others I'd add to these already fine lists would be the Mount Everest Trio.
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June-14th-2004, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SilentKnowledge
Hamid Drake
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Nope, Hamid is American.
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June-14th-2004, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SilentKnowledge
John Stevens
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Not sure how I forgot Stevens on my list. One of my favorite musicians of all time.
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June-14th-2004, 06:51 PM
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Listing only the living.
- Peter Bröztman
- Alexandre von Schlippenbach
- Evan Parker
- Eddie Prévost
- Derek Bailey
- Paul Bley
- Frank Gratkowski
- Martial Solal
- Louis Moholo
- Misha Mengelberg
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June-14th-2004, 08:52 PM
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www.steveminkin.com
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Sergey Kuryokhin
Evan Parker
Paul Bley
Keith Tippett
Abdullah Ibrahim
Rabih Abou-Khalil
Dave Holland
Django Reinhardt
Pino Minafra
Jan Garbarek
Guillermo Klein
Han Bennink
Trilok Gutu
Gianluigi Trovesi
Barry Guy
The Ganelin Trio
The London Jazz Composers Orchestra
The Italian Instabile Orchestra
Vienna Art Orchestra
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June-15th-2004, 12:04 AM
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dirty antipodal jackalope
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Kudos to the JC crew for their wide open ears when it comes to listening outside the US. It's about time, though, y'all set sail for the other side of the equator. Just off the top of my head ...
Scott Tinkler
Paul Williamson I
Paul Williamson II
Ted Vining Trio
Joe Chindamo
Alister Spence
Andrew Robson
Mark Isaacs
Mike Nock
Ian Chaplin
Jamie Oehlers
Danny Fischer
Aaron Choulai
Anton Delecca
James Sherlock
Andrea Keller
Anita Hustas
Adam Simmons
Eugene Ball
Kynan Robinson
Peter Knight
Way Out West
Ishish
Michelle Nicolle
Mark Fitzgibbon
Tony Gould
Keith Hounslow
Sam Keevers
Allan Browne
Gary Costello
Barry Duggan
Bernie McGann
Dale Barlow
James Muller
Paul Grabowsky
Gai Bryant
Clarion Fracture Zone
Ten Part Invention
Mark Simmonds
Frock
David Rex
Julien Wilson
Bennetts Lane Big Band
Fiona Burnett
Other than that: I Have been enjoying the hell out of new '60s British reissues out on Beat Goes On by the Don Rendell/Ian Carr Quintet - Shades Of Blues/Dusk Fire, Phase III/Live and Change Is.
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Kenny no longer on the radio. Seeking radio station that isn't so pigeonhole-bound that it can't handle an approach that takes in Louis Armstrong, Sun Ra, the Grateful Dead and Bob Wills.
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June-15th-2004, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by kenny weir
Other than that: I Have been enjoying the hell out of new '60s British reissues out on Beat Goes On by the Don Rendell/Ian Carr Quintet - Shades Of Blues/Dusk Fire, Phase III/Live and Change Is.
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Cool, someone else here has a sweet tooth for the Lansdowne scene. Kenny, there's a pretty long thread over at AAJ about the Rendell-Carr albums. I've got to hold off on these for now but placed an advance order for Mike Westbrook's Celebration, Neil Ardley's Greek Variations, and Impressed With Gilles Peterson Vol. 2. Would be nice to hear if anyone else is interested.
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June-15th-2004, 01:54 AM
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Lines Burnt In Light
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Originally Posted by Mo Noyz
Nope, Hamid is American.
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Damn...
I am a loser... 
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June-15th-2004, 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by SilentKnowledge
Damn...
I am a loser... |
Nope again.
You can't be a loser and dig Hamid at the same time. It's intellectually impossible.
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June-15th-2004, 02:53 AM
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Gato Barbieri
Paul Bley
Johnny Dyani
Dave Holland
Abdullah Ibrahim
John McLaughlin
Bobo Stenson
John Tchicai
Gianluigi Trovesi
Trevor Watts
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June-15th-2004, 09:06 AM
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with a twist
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Originally Posted by kenny weir
Kudos to the JC crew for their wide open ears when it comes to listening outside the US. It's about time, though, y'all set sail for the other side of the equator. Just off the top of my head ...
Scott Tinkler
Paul Williamson I
Paul Williamson II
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Fiona Burnett
Other than that: I Have been enjoying the hell out of new '60s British reissues out on Beat Goes On by the Don Rendell/Ian Carr Quintet - Shades Of Blues/Dusk Fire, Phase III/Live and Change Is.
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I've never heard of a single name in your list!
I must need to get out more.
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June-15th-2004, 11:21 AM
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poor folk's child
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Originally Posted by stonemonkts
I've never heard of a single name in your list!
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I've heard and enjoyed Bernie McGann. That would be 10% if those aussies could count.
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June-15th-2004, 01:07 PM
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Lines Burnt In Light
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Originally Posted by Mo Noyz
Nope again.
You can't be a loser and dig Hamid at the same time. It's intellectually impossible.
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Okay, I feel better now!
Thanks... 
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June-16th-2004, 03:53 AM
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What if I started a "Top Ten Non-European Jazz Musicians" thread, or if Kenny Weir started a "Top Ten Non-Australian Jazz Musicians" one? Just a matter of perspective ...
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June-16th-2004, 07:34 AM
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with a twist
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Originally Posted by Tom K
What if I started a "Top Ten Non-European Jazz Musicians" thread, or if Kenny Weir started a "Top Ten Non-Australian Jazz Musicians" one? Just a matter of perspective ...
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I wouldn't have any issues with either list.
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June-16th-2004, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom K
What if I started a "Top Ten Non-European Jazz Musicians" thread, or if Kenny Weir started a "Top Ten Non-Australian Jazz Musicians" one? Just a matter of perspective ...
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What would be wrong with that?
Also keep in mind that Jazz WAS created in America. Now there's some perspective for you.
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June-17th-2004, 05:35 AM
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my ten
Eliane Elias (1st 'cause I didn't see her name anywhere)
Toninho Horta (...for the same reason...)
Antonio Carlos Jobim (only brazilian names? no...)
Django (i'm sorry , i'm a guitar player..)
Dave Holland
Joe Zawinul
Toots Thielemans
Roberto Gatto ( i'm italian you know...)
Thomasz Stanko
Stefano Bollani (i'm italian two times)
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June-17th-2004, 08:11 AM
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Yes, Mo Noyz, and it's being created all over the world today. So I wonder if non-Americans should be seen as something exotic - just as Americans shouldn't be. So I vote for a Top Ten Musicians (regardless of origin) thread. Sorry if I'm being sensitive about the subject.
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June-17th-2004, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom K
Yes, Mo Noyz, and it's being created all over the world today. So I wonder if non-Americans should be seen as something exotic - just as Americans shouldn't be. So I vote for a Top Ten Musicians (regardless of origin) thread. Sorry if I'm being sensitive about the subject.
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Slightly oversensitive as if you follow the discussions and many top-ten lists, you will see that few of the regular posters make/demonstrate a mind-set prone to such differential classification on the basis of racial/ethnic origin.
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June-17th-2004, 09:30 AM
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Peace and Light!
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Originally Posted by Mo Noyz
Nope, Hamid is American.
Damn...
I am a loser...
Hamid was born Hank Drake in Monroe, Louisiana, so technically he's a Southerner!
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June-17th-2004, 12:56 PM
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poor folk's child
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We let you have him technically, Dennis, as long as his soul may belong to chi-town.
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June-17th-2004, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom K
Yes, Mo Noyz, and it's being created all over the world today. So I wonder if non-Americans should be seen as something exotic - just as Americans shouldn't be. So I vote for a Top Ten Musicians (regardless of origin) thread. Sorry if I'm being sensitive about the subject.
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Well, I can dig what you're saying. I think you may be taking it a little too personlly. I don't think the intent of this thread was to cast non-American Jazz musicians as something exotic.
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Hamid was born Hank Drake in Monroe, Louisiana, so technically he's a Southerner!
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I guess "technically" thats still America. 
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June-17th-2004, 07:37 PM
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Tom K, welcome back. I hope to see more from you on the board.
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