July-6th-2004, 05:30 AM
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World's slowest and longest musical piece, by John Cage
[I know I started an earlier thread on this, but I think it's in the Archives.]
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Only 636 years left in longest concert
Monday, July 5, 2004 Posted: 2:18 PM EDT (1818 GMT)
BERLIN, Germany (AP) -- In an abandoned church in the German town of Halberstadt, the world's longest concert was coming two notes closer to its end Monday: Three years down, 636 to go.
The addition of an E and E-sharp complement the G-sharp, B and G-sharp that have been playing since February 2003 in composer John Cage's "Organ2/ASLSP" -- or "Organ squared/As slow as possible."
The five notes are the initial sounds played on a specially built organ -- one in which keys are held down by weights, and new organ pipes will be added as needed as the piece is stretched out to last generations.
The concert is more than just an avant-garde riff on Cage's already avant-garde oeuvre, which includes a piece consisting of 4 minutes and 33 seconds of silence and one for a piano rejiggered with screws and wood stuck between the strings.
"It has a philosophical background: in the hectic times in which we live, to find calm through this slowness," said Georg Bandarau, a businessman who helps run the private foundation behind the concert. "In 639 years, maybe they will only have peace."
The concert began Sept. 5, 2001 -- the day Cage would have turned 89. The composition, originally written to last 20 minutes, starts with a silence, and the only sound for a first 1 1/2 years was air. The first notes were played in February 2003.
After debates in Germany about what exactly "as slow as possible" could mean -- anywhere from a day to stretching on infinitely -- the group of German music experts and organ builder behind the project chose the concert's 639-year running time to commemorate to the creation of the city's historic Blockwerk organ in 1361.
Halberstadt's disused Burchardi church, once a monastery complex and now an appropriately simple and unadorned building, was chosen as a concert hall.
About 10,000 tourists visited the city, 60 miles southeast of Hanover, between April and September of last year to hear the first three notes, Bandarau said.
Cage was born in Los Angeles in 1912, and like his teacher, Arnold Schoenberg, was influential both as a musician and a thinker. "Organ2/ASLSP" was composed in 1985 for piano, but two years later was rearranged for organ. Cage died in 1992.
The next change arrives in March 2006. The music then will become even simpler: Two notes are being taken away, Bandarau said.
The foundation is now seeking sponsors to fund the organ's estimated $246,000 cost.
"We need to secure the future," Bandarau said.
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Copyright 2004 The Associated Press.
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July-6th-2004, 09:41 AM
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It's important to have art that makes us think. That shatters our perceptions about what art is. And to have art that makes us look within ourselves and in new and different places to appreciate and understand the things around us. John Cage has certainly done these things throughout his career.
Now, having said that, this is completely worthless to me. It's time to stop staring at your navel, John.
Larry
Oops, Cage died already, didn't he? My bad.
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July-6th-2004, 11:41 AM
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The mouldiest of all figs
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It's incredible how so many otherwise intelligent people get sucked into this bullshit; just stroll through the New Tate or MOMA or MOCA as see the crap that some curator thinks he/she can pawn off as "art."
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July-6th-2004, 12:04 PM
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I wonder if there will be any encores.
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July-6th-2004, 12:50 PM
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Tragically Impressionable
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I think its cool. I love that man.
Personally I hope there is some live bootlegs!
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July-6th-2004, 01:29 PM
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maybe I should leave instructions in my will for my great great great great great great great great great great great grea tgreat great great grea tgreat great granchildren to make plans to hear the Finale ..
..or maybe just the last note !
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July-6th-2004, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Squaredancecalling Steve
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The addition of an E and E-sharp complement the G-sharp, B and G-sharp that have been playing since February 2003 in composer John Cage's "Organ2/ASLSP" -- or "Organ squared/As slow as possible."
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gee ..do you think in 636 years they'll finally figure out the entire
E diminished scale ???
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July-6th-2004, 06:00 PM
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i think la monte young has electronic music looping continuously since the 1960s outside his ny flat..... [it could be terry riley tho ... i am not sure].....i suppose it stops during black outs ...........
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July-6th-2004, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by frankiepop
.. [it could be terry riley tho ... i am not sure].....
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I think it is Young
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July-6th-2004, 06:12 PM
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A-scan, ya'll
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636 years to go of this? I wonder how much has been recorded. And a year and a half's worth of 4'33" at the start? You KNOW a few people had to have farted on location, adding to Cage's idea of the musical environment on mulltiple dimensions.
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July-6th-2004, 06:34 PM
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July-6th-2004, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mone peterson
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somebody take away Mone's' Ludes .......
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