Favorite Late Night Band

[JazzAt52ndStreet]

I like The Weinberg Seven....can't stand Conan though..his skits are unbearably boring.

..KEvin Eubanks is awesome though.

-52nd

[Steve Reynolds]

Max Weinberg is just about the worst drummer I have ever heard


anyone remember who that clown was with Roy Campbell at CBGB's Loung a couple years back?

before the great trio set with Peter, Milford & William?

Jimmy?

Brian?

Paul B?


well Max is almost as bad as that guy

[Steve Reynolds]

got it!

Dee Pop!!!!

[graypencil]

Arsenio Halls' former house band

Dave Sanborns' former house band

The SNL 75 /77 band

all the current late night bands are IMO just ranging from so-so ( Kevins Tonight Show ) to outright sloppy ( Shaffers Letterman bunch)

and whereas I'm somewhat embarrased for the role that Kevin Eubanks has been cast into , I'm sure he's being well paid for it ..

OTOH, Paul Shaffers' smarmy faux-hipster schtick has worn very thin over the years..

[Pete C]

The ones in the 60s & early 70s.

[Frisco]

[QUOTE=Steve Reynolds]
anyone remember who that clown was with Roy Campbell at CBGB's Loung a couple years back?
before the great trio set with Peter, Milford & William?
/QUOTE]

Steve. Dee Pop is the man responsible for the whole CBGB thing existing over these past few years. He deserved a chance to play that gig. He has a history of playing in some punk or hard rock bands over the years, so I think he's been feeling his way into improvised music. I don't find him all that bad. Gotta give him credit. The wierder set was the one in between Brotz sets. Joe McPhee and Joe Giardullo playing some quiet, intricate little sounds with the thumping noise of CBs main stage drowning them out.

But the trio sets with Peter, Milford, and William! Did you catch both sets that night? I thought the second set was totally insane. Some of the most intense music I've ever heard. Milford was his normal (if you can call him that) exuberant and outrageous self in the first set, but just buckled down and Played (!) in the second. He and William ( and Peter) were on fire. Whew, Paul, glad I was bored and foolish enough to drive in for that one!

Whoops, sorry. Late night bands. Getting way off topic.

[Pete C]

Depends. How late were the sets you're referring to?

[Frisco]

Well, as I recall, there were four sets total in two "shows". The set with Roy, Dee Pop, and (who was on bass?), then Brotz, William, and Milford, then McPhee and Giardullo, and then another Brotz, William, Milford set.

[Steve Reynolds]

missed the second set, didn't know that McPhee was playing even though we ran into him during the break - I remeber he told us that the Brotz Tentet was playing on 6/30

helluva menory, eh?

I recall people saying later how great the set was that I missed

what else is new?

the bassist who played with Roy was very good - the music itself was pretty mundane - I know the drummer came from rock - but there are also good rock drummers - this guy wasn't one of those guys

[Stuckinagroove]

Can't say who is my favorite band, but conan has the best theme song, hands down. Sounds kinda monkish almost.

[JazzAt52ndStreet]

Originally Posted by Steve Reynolds

Max Weinberg is just about the worst drummer I have ever heard

....uhhh, he's one of the smoothest drummers in the buisness...his groove is deep as Homers belly button.

-dRutCH

[Steve Reynolds]

I dunno why anyone would want to listen to a "smooth sounding" drummer


although I think he is a basher whose sound is all big flat pillowy tones

the guy has never cracked a snare drum effectively in his life

in other words, there has never been any "snap" to his playing

all big flat messy bashing

[Boris Badenov]

Happy Kyne and the Mirthmakers.

[hornplayer]

imo no late night band compares to the one Doc Severinsen led on Johnny Carson's show. I mean... Snooky Young, Mumbles, Conte Condoli... was there ever such a trumpet section on tv? the rest of the band wasn't chopped liver, either.

I'm too young to remember who Jack Paar had other than Jose Melis....

[Root Doctor]

Originally Posted by Boris Badenov

Happy Kyne and the Mirthmakers.

Killer version of "C.C. Rider."

[Sergio Zamora]

I don't think I had ever watched the Food Network before, but yesterday I caught a bit of a cooking show on it, and the house band was actually quite good. It was definitely a mainstream/hard bop band, and while I only heard them when the end credits started rolling, they were taking solos and stuff.

I'm sure I could look up what show it was, but I'm lazy.

[Root Doctor]

Originally Posted by Sergio Zamora

I don't think I had ever watched the Food Network before, but yesterday I caught a bit of a cooking show on it, and the house band was actually quite good. It was definitely a mainstream/hard bop band, and while I only heard them when the end credits started rolling, they were taking solos and stuff.

I'm sure I could look up what show it was, but I'm lazy.

I'm ashamed to say I know this, but it's Emeril.

[jazzfiend]

Reynolds speaks the truth here. Max Weinberg is without doubt the most awful drummer i've had the displeasure of hearing. He's also totally predictable, with constant repetition of old tired licks. He's so damn bad, I find myself laughing at the tv set.

[stonemonkts]

Originally Posted by Sergio Zamora

I don't think I had ever watched the Food Network before, but yesterday I caught a bit of a cooking show on it, and the house band was actually quite good. It was definitely a mainstream/hard bop band, and while I only heard them when the end credits started rolling, they were taking solos and stuff.

I'm sure I could look up what show it was, but I'm lazy.

Lazy is right. I googled "food network jazz band" and this hit came back:

"The Emeril Live Band


The set of Emeril Live wouldn't be complete without the sounds of the show's lively band: Bandleader and percussionist Leonard "Doc" Gibbs, keyboardist Cliff Starkey, bassist Charles Baldwin, drummer Ted Thomas, Jr., and saxophonist Louis Taylor. They entertain thousands of adoring fans, produce unusual sound effects right on cue, and best of all, bring out Emeril's own musical talent. Outside the confines of the studio, these musicians also produce magic in their own solo careers.

Leonard "Doc" Gibbs
"Doc" Gibbs is legendary within musical circles for his funky rhythms and use of unusual percussion instruments. Gibbs's penchant for hand drums and percussion instruments began in the early 1970s when he left the Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Art to pursue his dream of becoming a master percussionist. Gibbs caught the attention of the music industry's top artists and over the years, has toured and recorded with Anita Baker, Whitney Houston, Bob James, Ricki Lee Jones, Al Jarreau, Grover Washington, Jr., Wyclef Jean, Erykah Badu, Eric Benet, and R&B producer James Poyser. Gibbs received his nickname "Doc" from the late, legendary jazz saxophonist Grover Washington, Jr. after recommending an herbal remedy for Grover's nasty cold that led Grover to declare, "There's two doctors in Philly: Dr. J [of the '76ers] and Doctor Gibbs." Playing with Emeril Live's band since 1997, he shares the musical credits for the show's spicy rhythms with his fellow band members.

Cliff Starkey
Born in Philadelphia on March 19, 1963, Cliff grew up admiring such musicians as Chick Corea and Herbie Hancock. Though he didn't have a piano, Starkey taught himself how to play and developed a unique improvisational style that has taken him around the world. Along the way, Starkey developed songwriting skills and learned to sing and adapt to various styles of music. For the past 20 years, Starkey has performed with such notable artists as the Three Degrees, the Temptations, and Pieces of a Dream. He is a Capitol Records recording artist and appears on several albums. Besides performing on Emeril Live, he tours with the Groovemasters.

Ted Thomas, Jr.
Hailing from a family of gospel musicians, this Portsmouth, VA native beat his first music on a table at 18 months and began playing drums for a choir at age 7. After a year at Norfolk State University, Ted left Virginia for Detroit, MI. He immediately landed several gospel recordings, leading to perfomances with the off-Broadway play You Arms Are Too Short to Box With God, starring Jennifer Holiday and later Patti LaBelle. As a drummer and drum programmer, Ted has worked with Jon Lucien, "Doc" Gibbs, Patti LaBelle, Earl Klugh, Jill Scott, Sean "P-Diddy" Combs, James Poyser, BeBe and CeCe Winans, Dave Koz, Kirk Whalum, among others. He's also a co-writer of Emeril Live's spicy tunes.

Charles Baldwin
Charles Baldwin began playing electric bass in Philadelphia at the age of 14, learning most of his skills from various method books. At 21, Charles started playing at local clubs on a part-time basis while holding down full-time jobs. Seven years later Charles decided to pursue a full-time music career, kicking off his career with several Philadelphia- and New York-based artists. A dedicated and well-respected bassist, Charles also composes music for R&B, pop and jazz.

Louis R. Taylor, Jr.
Louis Taylor was born in Philadelphia and began playing the saxophone at the age of 10. During his musical journey, he has performed or recorded with an assortment of musical greats. The list includes but is not limited to the late Phyllis Hyman, Teddy Pendergrass, the Dells, the Stylistics, the Temptations, Rolls Royce, Pure Soul, the Spinners, Lou Rawls, Jerry Butler, BeBe Winans, and Aretha Franklin. The list also includes jazz greats Stanley Clarke, Charles Fambrough, Bobby Watson, Al Jarreau, Joey DeFrancesco, Dexter Wansel, Orrin Evans, Duane Eubanks, Pieces of a Dream, Odean Pope, Ray Mantilla, and John Lewis of the Modern Jazz Quartet. Louis was also honored to perform with jazz violinist John Blake at the Grover Washington tribute concert, sharing the stage with contemporary jazz saxophonists Gerald Albright, Najee, and Kirk Whalum. Louis can be heard on his first solo release titled "Kaleidoscope." "

[graypencil]

Originally Posted by hornplayer

I'm too young to remember who Jack Paar had other than Jose Melis....

It's not worth recalling anyway, IMO ..some of the NYC NBC staff guys told me they used to try to bribe each other to play the show ..so THEY wouldn't have to

[graypencil]

Originally Posted by Boris Badenov

Happy Kyne and the Mirthmakers.

dont forget " Disco Duck" ..Colin Baileys dubious moment of fame

Speaking of drummers, I *dare* Reynolds to dimview Colin Bailey as a tired ass drummer ..Colin can still play more shit with one hand ( or his right foot ) that most guys can with all four limbs ...

[Sergio Zamora]

Originally Posted by Root Doctor

I'm ashamed to say I know this, but it's Emeril.

Ah, I didn't know or didn't remember what he looked like. It was pretty good - he made tomato soup and grilled cheese sandwiches

[Sergio Zamora]

Originally Posted by stonemonkts

Lazy is right. I googled "food network jazz band" and this hit came back:

Stone, this band had a trumpeter and a trombonist (iirc)

[stonemonkts]

Huh. Well, I'm unfamiliar with any of the Food Network shows (unlike Root, who apparently has a few issues).

Maybe another pompous chef has a competing band of his own?

I'm sure Root can fill us in. I'm too lazy to (re-) google.

[Sergio Zamora]

Originally Posted by stonemonkts

Huh. Well, I'm unfamiliar with any of the Food Network shows (unlike Root, who apparently has a few issues).

Maybe another pompous chef has a competing band of his own?

I'm sure Root can fill us in. I'm too lazy to (re-) google.

Actually, I confirmed it was Emeril. I guess the website is a little outdated or their was a guest musician.

[Steve Reynolds]

sometimes Emeril has some hard bop type guys


fwiw - he is a dope and an awful messy chef

his schtick is as stale as Wynton's attitude

and he has no musical abilites to go along with his lack of cooking skill

anyone can make stuff taste good by loading it up with pork fat, butter and excess grease

[JazzAt52ndStreet]

Originally Posted by Steve Reynolds

I dunno why anyone would want to listen to a "smooth sounding" drummer


although I think he is a basher whose sound is all big flat pillowy tones

the guy has never cracked a snare drum effectively in his life

in other words, there has never been any "snap" to his playing

all big flat messy bashing

Messy???.....have you even heard him play....clean as hell is how I would describe his playing.
And why the hell wouldn't I want to listen to a smooth flowing drummer?

Do you and whoever else bashed him have no appreciation for groove?...his feel is respected through out drummers.

....same licks?...yes, that's because they're playing the same song every night...it's called the "Late Night With Conan O'Brien Theme Song"....ironic isn't it?

-52nd

[Steve Reynolds]

have I heard him play?

I went to colege from 1978-82 height of Bruce mania

heard enough Max Weinberg for MILLION lifetimes


no appreciation for groove???


favorite drummer of all time - Edward Blackwell


ever heard him play?

maybe you want to check out who my favorite living jazz drummer is

the undisputed king of the groove

the deepest groove master alive - you seen him, heard him?

the great one, Mr. Hamid Drake







Blues for Tomorrow, baby

[stonemonkts]

LOL Say it loud!

That's beautiful.

[graypencil]

YessSIR!

ol' Stevie Ray is **BAAAAACK ** !! ..

in full epiphanic mode!!!