Top Five Albums You've Never Heard, But Want To

crawjo · July-23rd-2004, 02:57 PM

Here's a chance to list those classic or highly regarded albums that you've yet to hear. Since I'm still fairly new to the music, my list contains several essentials, I think.

1. Charles Mingus - Black Saint and the Sinner Lady
2. Max Roach - We Insist! Freedom Now
3. William Parker - The Peach Orchard
4. AMM - Newfoundland
5. Sun Ra - Lanquidity

JiminHouston · July-23rd-2004, 03:07 PM

Any Andrew Hill other than POINT OF DEPARTURE and BLACK FIRE (both of which I own)

Dan G · July-23rd-2004, 03:36 PM

Crawjo - consider yourself lucky, everything on your list is still available.

Here's (a small portion of) what I'm curious about:

Fred van Hove: Church Organ (FMP, 1979)
Rudiger Carl: King Alcohol (FMP, 1972)
Pierre Favre Quartett w/Schweizer/Kowald/Parker (Wergo, 1969)
Butcher/Malfatti/Lovens/Russell/Durrant: News from the Shed (Acta, 1989)
Anthony Braxton Quartet: Live at Moers Festival (Moers, 1974)

Jon Abbey · July-23rd-2004, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan G

Butcher/Malfatti/Lovens/Russell/Durrant: News from the Shed (Acta, 1989)

this one's in the works for reissue, Unheard Music Series, including 20 new minutes of material. it's on Butcher's News page on his web site, where he also says what the new Polwechsel personnel is:

http://www.johnbutcher.org.uk/News.html

Enforcer · July-23rd-2004, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by crawjo

1. Charles Mingus - Black Saint and the Sinner Lady

I can't see how you can go wrong with this one. I've yet to hear someone say she didn't like it.

Waiting for the inevitable contradiction,
Larry

saltwatersnow · July-23rd-2004, 05:52 PM

the news from shed would have been my answer to question, and after years of waiting it will be mine. but i hate it when they put on extra minutes that werent good enough at the time. unless this is some adjacent music and not session leftovers. still probally too long. butcher/nakamura interesting.

Frisco · July-23rd-2004, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JiminHouston

Any Andrew Hill other than POINT OF DEPARTURE and BLACK FIRE (both of which I own)

Jimmy, you have to hear "Compulsion". If only the idiots at Blue Note would reissue it.

Vince Kargatis · July-23rd-2004, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by saltwatersnow

the news from shed would have been my answer to question, and after years of waiting it will be mine. but i hate it when they put on extra minutes that werent good enough at the time.

It was LP only, so it's hard to know what sort of judgment went on when picking for a lower fixed time limit. Their opinion of the left-out material may not be lower than of the included material.

Frisco · July-23rd-2004, 06:48 PM

Parker/Bailey/Bennink - Topography of the Lungs
Steve Lacy - Sortie
Steve Lacy - Distant Voices
Favre/Schweizer/Kowald - Santana
Sun Ra - w/Pharoah Sanders & Black Harold

Squaredancecalling Steve · July-23rd-2004, 07:22 PM

Heard melodies are sweet, but those unheard
Are sweeter; therefore, ye soft pipes, play on;
Not to the sensual ear, but, more endear'd,
Pipe to the spirit ditties of no tone

Jonathan Sutton · July-23rd-2004, 07:59 PM

Alex von Schlippenbach -- Light Blue
Noah Howard -- Black Ark
Gianluigi Trovesi -- From G to G
Axel Dorner -- Die Enttauschung
Anything by Chris McGregor and The Blue Notes

Noj · July-23rd-2004, 08:51 PM

Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers - Free For All
Bobby Hutcherson - Components
Duke Ellington - Far East Suite
Charles Mingus - Black Saint & The Sinner Lady (me too, crawjo)
Wayne Shorter - Et Cetera

Anything from the eai threads...where to start?
Anything from the Funny Rat thread at the Big O...same question?

Nate Dorward · July-23rd-2004, 08:53 PM

The News from the Shed LP is really fine. Also the first Russell/Butcher/Durrant disc, which I think was called Conceits.

Some albums I'd like to hear:

Chris Anderson, Solo Ballads
Evan Parker/Han Bennink/Derek Bailey, The Topography of the Lungs
Yosuke Yamashita's Ayler tribute
Rudiger Carl, Book
Anthony Braxton, Seven Compositions (Trio) 1989

SilentKnowledge · July-24th-2004, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Frisco

Parker/Bailey/Bennink - Topography of the Lungs

Indeed, one of the best.

AMM-AMMmusic 1966
John Butcher with Derek Bailey & Rhordi Davies-Vortices & Angels
Evan Parker/Barry Guy/Paul Lytton-At The Vortex
Derek Bailey & Will Gaines-Rappin & Tappin
John Coltrane-Live In Japan

Jesse · July-24th-2004, 03:12 AM

Frisco

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Favre/Schweizer/Kowald - Santana

I have this and would share, but I got it on vinyl at Rick Ballard's in Berkley in '88, and it's, uh, less than pristine.
Kicks ass.

Jesse · July-24th-2004, 03:20 AM

[QUOTE=Dan G]

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Fred van Hove: Church Organ (FMP, 1979)
Rudiger Carl: King Alcohol (FMP, 1972)

I have these, and Van Hove's Requiem For Che Guevera, with monsterous church organ/choir and free players.
See the Santana post to Frisco. The 80's were a less than handle with -care phase of my life (plus, I loaned them out [!] to friends with similar platter-handling skills).
Ballard's had a staggering FMP selection, new & used.

Jesse · July-24th-2004, 03:25 AM

Lacy/Humair/Cox: whatever the title is.

Hans Reichel: Yuxo

The "Horn Guys" disc: Moore/Gratkowski/Baars/Delios

Scelsi:The 5 String Quartets and Hymnos

Jon Abbey · July-24th-2004, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Noj

Anything from the eai threads...where to start?

Keith Rowe/John Tilbury-Duos for Doris (Erstwhile)

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Originally Posted by Noj

Anything from the Funny Rat thread at the Big O...same question?

Brötzmann/van Hove/Bennink/Mangelsdorff-Live in Berlin '71 (FMP)

stonemonkts · July-24th-2004, 09:01 AM

Jan Allan - 70 (Phono Suecia)
Edward Vesala - Lumi
Edward Vesala - Invisible Storm
Edward Vesala - Ode to the Death of Jazz

Frisco · July-24th-2004, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Noj

Bobby Hutcherson - Components

Noj, "Components" is one of Hutcherson's finest, IMO. And I just received a message from CD Universe stating that they have an import CD available. Components, Happenings, and Dialogue are my particular Hutcherson favorites. There is a suite of music (taking up side two) on Components written by Joe Chambers that is excellent, including "Juba Dance, and "Air". Check it out!

walto · July-24th-2004, 10:48 AM

I'd like to hear those orchestral Blake things on Owl. There are also a couple of George Russell discs I haven't been able to find. I'd also like Miles's "Live at Fillmore East" to be released without all those ridiculous cuts.

And, though I've heard it, I, uh, wish somebody would re-release "Sadhana"....

Nate Dorward · July-24th-2004, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by stonemonkts

Jan Allan - 70 (Phono Suecia)
Edward Vesala - Lumi
Edward Vesala - Invisible Storm
Edward Vesala - Ode to the Death of Jazz

I never really could get much out of Ode to the Death of Jazz, actually. The Allan is very good. Haven't heard the other two, & probably should...

bluenoter · July-24th-2004, 11:50 AM

I'm so far behind that I need more than five. And as GoodSpeak says, I could go ON!

Gato Barbieri--Box set of Flying Dutchman albums? (said to have been distributed in Europe)
Anthony Braxton--Quartet (Dortmund)
Anthony Braxton--Quartet (Santa Cruz)
John Carter--Castles of Ghana
John Carter Octet--Dauwhe
Pete LaRoca (Sims)--Basra (being reissued as an RVG in February or March 2005)
M.I.M.E.O.--The Hands of Caravaggio
Old and New Dreams--their two self-titled albums (Black Saint and ECM)
Evan Parker/Barry Guy/Paul Lytton--At the Vortex

nonjazz:

Leroy Carr--Sloppy Drunk
The Carter Family: 1927-1934

Dennis Gonzalez · July-24th-2004, 11:54 AM

Carlos Santana:Favreshweizerkowald

Dennis Gonzalez · July-24th-2004, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by walto

And, though I've heard it, I, uh, wish somebody would re-release "Sadhana"....

where can I order it?

frankiepop · July-24th-2004, 12:30 PM

where can I order it?

i dunno know but i sure dig my copy

Cecil Taylor Unit: Nicaragua: No Parasan / Willisau '83 Live

Nica (no #) (2LP) 1984 SWZ

August 27, 1983, 14:30
Willisau Jazz Festival
Festhalle
Willisau, Switzerland
1.F = Seite 1 [21:05]
2.S = Seite 2 [21:50]
3.L = Seite 3 [22:20]
4.N = Seite 4 [13:00]
5.
(All compositions, Cecil Taylor)

Cecil Taylor (p; voc)
Brenda Bakr (voc)
Jimmy Lyons (as)
William Parker (b)
Rashid Bakr (d; perc)
Andre Martinez (d; perc)

i have 2 min's illegally downloaded...
if someone has a no pasaran and wants to burn off a copy, then let me know...i gots plenty to trade.

walto · July-24th-2004, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dennis Gonzalez

where can I order it?

Jazzloft has a couple copies left, I think.

Noj · July-24th-2004, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Abbey

Keith Rowe/John Tilbury-Duos for Doris (Erstwhile)
Brötzmann/van Hove/Bennink/Mangelsdorff-Live in Berlin '71 (FMP)

Thanks Jon, I'm going to have to see what all the talk is about!

crawjo · July-24th-2004, 02:39 PM

In terms of Erstwhile recommendations, Duos for Doris is a good place to start, but I also really like Too Beautiful to Burn, La Voyelle Liquide, and the Hands of Caravaggio. The price goes down on each disc when you order two or three, if you're interested.

michaelr · July-24th-2004, 03:11 PM

Zo-Ko-Ma: Atilla Zoller/Lee Konitz/Albert Mangelsdorff/Baree Phillips/Stu Martin (MPS) -- MPS releases have been drifting out here and there, but I've never seen this one either re-issued or on LP.

Planet Oeuf: w/ Phil Durrant and Gunter Muller (might be the first recording for both). This one was on a list of Atavistic reissues, but seems to have disappeared.

Alan Siva: My Country (Leo) -- I remember seeing some threads about this one when the BYG Cellestial Communcations Orchestra recordings were reissued.

Steve Lacy: Threads (Horo) w/ Alvin Curran and Frederic Rzewski

Lester Bowie: African Children (Horo) w/ Amina Myers and Philip Wilson